#fedora-blocker-review: F25-blocker-review
Meeting started by adamw at 16:00:09 UTC
(full logs).
Meeting summary
- Roll Call (adamw, 16:00:10)
- http://las.gnome.org/ (adamw,
16:02:46)
- Introduction (adamw, 16:02:55)
- Our purpose in this meeting is to review
proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept
them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted
blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (adamw,
16:02:56)
- We'll be following the process outlined
at: (adamw,
16:02:56)
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(adamw,
16:02:56)
- The bugs up for review today are available
at: (adamw,
16:02:58)
- http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current
(adamw,
16:03:00)
- The criteria for release blocking bugs can be
found at: (adamw,
16:03:07)
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_25_Alpha_Release_Criteria
(adamw,
16:03:08)
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_25_Beta_Release_Criteria
(adamw,
16:03:08)
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_25_Final_Release_Criteria
(adamw,
16:03:08)
- pschindl to secretarialize (adamw,
16:04:15)
- 4 Proposed Blockers (adamw,
16:04:49)
- 4 Accepted Blockers (adamw,
16:04:49)
- 1 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw,
16:04:49)
- 1 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw,
16:04:51)
- 8 Proposed Blockers (Final) (adamw,
16:05:04)
- starting with Beta proposed blockers
(adamw,
16:05:34)
- 4 Proposed Blockers (adamw,
16:05:35)
- 4 Accepted Blockers (adamw,
16:05:35)
- 1 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw,
16:05:35)
- 1 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw,
16:05:36)
- (1372868) F25 Alpha-2 Installer Fails if DVD-ROM is on Silicon Image 3114 SATA Controller (adamw, 16:05:42)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1372868
(adamw,
16:05:44)
- Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (adamw,
16:05:44)
- AGREED: 1372868 -
RejectedBlocker (Beta) - this does not seem to affect much hardware,
and there is a workaround available (adamw,
16:08:21)
- (1373169) Can't login again after logout. (adamw, 16:08:34)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1373169
(adamw,
16:08:34)
- Proposed Blocker, gnome-session, NEW
(adamw,
16:08:34)
- AGREED: 1373169 -
AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this constitutes a violation of "Shutting
down, logging out and rebooting must work using standard console
commands and the mechanisms offered (if any) by all release-blocking
desktops." - 'work' is defined as "Logging out must return the user
to the environment from which they logged in, working as expected.",
and if you can't log in again, it's not 'working as expected'
(adamw,
16:15:49)
- (1372962) SELinux is preventing mount from 'unlink' accesses on the file utab. (adamw, 16:16:01)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1372962
(adamw,
16:16:01)
- Proposed Blocker, selinux-policy, ON_QA
(adamw,
16:16:01)
- AGREED: 1372962 -
AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - violates "Automatic mounting of removable
media on insertion must work in release-blocking desktops."
(adamw,
16:19:18)
- (1374670) KDE desktop freezes on login (adamw, 16:19:34)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1374670
(adamw,
16:19:35)
- Proposed Blocker, selinux-policy,
VERIFIED (adamw,
16:19:35)
- AGREED: 1374670 -
AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this is an effective violation of all
desktop-related Alpha and Beta criteria (as it takes ~5 minutes to
do anything at all) (adamw,
16:24:24)
- moving to the proposed Beta freeze
exception (adamw,
16:24:56)
- (1375721) [abrt] initial-setup: common.py:356:_mark_screen_visited:AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'mark_screen_visited' (adamw, 16:25:04)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1375721
(adamw,
16:25:04)
- Proposed Freeze Exceptions, initial-setup,
NEW (adamw,
16:25:04)
- AGREED: 1375721 -
AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - inability to create a user in i-s
is clearly a serious problem that cannot be fixed in an update. if
this bug turns out to affect ARM it will likely be upgraded to a
blocker, but for now we grant it an FE at least. (adamw,
16:32:48)
- we'll switch to final blockers now, and
coremodule will take over (adamw,
16:32:58)
- (1375712) [abrt] anaconda: TypeError: __new__() takes 3 positional arguments but 5 were given (coremodule, 16:33:57)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1375712
(coremodule,
16:34:02)
- Proposed Blocker, anaconda, POST (coremodule,
16:34:11)
- AGREED: 1375712 -
tentative AcceptedBlocker - If the affected software hits stable
repos, this will violate "The installer must be able to detect (if
possible) and install to supported network-attached storage
devices." for SCSi and therefore be a blocker. Punting for the
moment. (coremodule,
16:52:13)
- (1366775) /usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon is hammering CPU after login tring to connect to local printing service (coremodule, 16:53:08)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1366775
(coremodule,
16:53:13)
- Proposed Blocker, cups, NEW (coremodule,
16:53:18)
- Moving on to the next bug, we will return to
1366775 after some testing (coremodule,
16:58:29)
- (1375504) VM screen is often black after boot in gnome-boxes (coremodule, 16:58:37)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1375504
(coremodule,
16:58:42)
- Proposed Blocker, gnome-boxes, NEW (coremodule,
16:58:46)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1374028
(kparal,
17:00:35)
- AGREED: 1375504 -
AcceptedBlocker (Final) - Violates the following Blocker criteria:
"All applications that can be launched using the standard graphical
mechanism of a release-blocking desktop after a default installation
of that desktop must start successfully and withstand a basic
functionality test." We will see if there is any backlash from the
maintainer after classification and go from there. (coremodule,
17:21:04)
- Moving to 1266484 as it's directly related to
this bug. (coremodule,
17:21:22)
- (1266484) spice + fedora wayland VM + spice-vdagent + resize-guest == flickering display (coremodule, 17:21:30)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1266484
(coremodule,
17:21:35)
- Proposed Blocker, xorg-x11-drv-qxl, NEW
(coremodule,
17:21:40)
- AGREED: 1266484 -
punt (delay decision) - Currently F25 uses X11 in Boxes, but should
the switch to Wayland be made in the future, this will inhibit the
user from launching applications. If Wayland is confirmed, we will
classify this bug as an AcceptedBlocker, but until then we will wait
on any decision. (coremodule,
17:33:44)
- Back to 136675 to finalize on the
details... (coremodule,
17:34:17)
- (1366775) /usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon is hammering CPU after login tring to connect to local printing service (coremodule, 17:34:27)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1366775
(coremodule,
17:34:27)
- Proposed Blocker, cups, NEW (coremodule,
17:34:27)
- AGREED: 1366775 -
punt (delay decision) - Based on information gathered during the
meeting, it seems like there is a possibility of multiple bugs here.
Until we can confirm that this is one single bug, we are delaying
the classification of this as a blocker. (coremodule,
17:43:31)
- (1372300) GDM does not use the keyboard layout which is selected (coremodule, 17:43:40)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1372300
(coremodule,
17:43:40)
- Proposed Blocker, mutter, NEW (coremodule,
17:43:41)
- AGREED: 1372300 -
punt (delay decision) - We currently cannot find an appropriate
criteria to block on, however this bug makes multilingual use of F25
unusable. We will delay the classification of this as a blocker
until the criteria can be amended, we receive new info on this bug,
or the bug is fixed. (coremodule,
18:02:17)
- (1377313) mutter 3.21.92-1.fc25 prevents libreoffice from opening existing files (coremodule, 18:02:32)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1377313
(coremodule,
18:02:32)
- Proposed Blocker, mutter, MODIFIED (coremodule,
18:02:33)
- AGREED: 1377313 -
AcceptedBlocker (Final) - The decision was made to nominate this as
a Final blocker: "All applications that can be launched using the
standard graphical mechanism of a release-blocking desktop after a
default installation of that desktop must start successfully and
withstand a basic functionality test." (coremodule,
18:09:45)
- (1370222) KDE doesn't start if hostname changes during boot due to network (infamous xauth issue) (coremodule, 18:09:54)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1370222
(coremodule,
18:09:54)
- Proposed Blocker, sddm, NEW (coremodule,
18:09:54)
- AGREED: 1370222 -
AcceptedBlocker (Final) - The decision was made to nominate this as
a Final blocker: "Release-blocking live images must boot to the
expected boot menu, and then to a desktop or to a login prompt where
it is clear how to log in to a desktop." (coremodule,
18:14:44)
- (1375156) SELinux cripples storaged (coremodule, 18:14:51)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1375156
(coremodule,
18:14:51)
- Proposed Blocker, selinux-policy,
VERIFIED (coremodule,
18:14:51)
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_25_Final_Release_Criteria#System_services
(kparal,
18:18:43)
- AGREED: 1375156 -
AcceptedBlocker (Final) - The decision was made to nominate this as
a Final blocker: "All system services present after installation
with one of the release-blocking package sets must start properly,
unless they require hardware which is not present. (coremodule,
18:24:41)
- Open Floor (coremodule,
18:25:11)
- Next meeting time - 16:00 UTC on
2016-09-26 (coremodule,
18:25:34)
Meeting ended at 18:27:11 UTC
(full logs).
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