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#fedora-meeting-2: Env and Stacks (2015-08-20)
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Meeting started by hhorak at 17:00:55 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2015-08-20/env-and-stacks.2015-08-20-17.00.log.html
.



Meeting summary
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* greetings..  (hhorak, 17:01:10)

* how to invite the conversation to e&s  (hhorak, 17:03:11)
  * it is a matter of outreach, there are a number of "stack-like"
    technologies being pursued in the Edition Working Groups; we want to
    avoid duplicated/conflicting effort.  (hhorak, 17:07:34)
  * The general consensus in the room on Flock was that E&S should help
    define some of the boundaries of the rings, and possibly come up
    with a better name than rings since it breaks down at higher levels
    (hhorak, 17:09:04)
  * But E&S shouldn't dictate the details of each ring- those should be
    forwarded on to more appropriate WG's  (hhorak, 17:09:22)
  * e&s should recommend available technologies for "implementing rings"
    which base would then include (probably) in r0 & r1.. available to
    all the editions and higher rings  (hhorak, 17:10:10)
  * this is all about creating policies in which development communities
    can find the natural fit; various groups involved in xdg-app,
    docker, rolekit, nulecule, etc may move the discussions to e&s since
    the interaction between those policy groups is where E&S seems to
    fit in  (hhorak, 17:16:39)
  * ACTION: hhorak to send agenda item for tomorrow's base meeting about
    owning r0/1 with guidelines from e&s  (hhorak, 17:46:41)
  * we can think about which tool to track the rings and fedora stuff
    later, but short-term, wiki should be fine enough  (hhorak,
    17:59:11)

Meeting ended at 18:00:30 UTC.




Action Items
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* hhorak to send agenda item for tomorrow's base meeting about owning
  r0/1 with guidelines from e&s




Action Items, by person
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* hhorak
  * hhorak to send agenda item for tomorrow's base meeting about owning
    r0/1 with guidelines from e&s
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




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