#fedora-meeting-2: FAmSCo 2016-05-04

Meeting summary

1. Roll Call (potty, 14:13:16)
   1. The reminder works perfectly (potty, 14:14:25)
   2. Gabriele, Sirko, Luis sent their regrets. (potty, 14:14:49)
   3. No ping today from Christoph, Tuanta and Giannisk (potty, 14:15:56)
   4. potty sent an email to the Fedora Design list but with no response from them. (potty, 14:16:26)
   5. cwickert added the Lazy Consensus info on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassadors_Steering_Committee#Governance (potty, 14:17:42)
   6. IDEA: Rule of thumb: Unless people are invited to attend an event in another region, their region pays. If they are invited, the inviting region pays. Exceptions can be discussed case-by-case. (cwickert, 14:43:38)
   7. IDEA: handle all requests case-by-case. Means we don't make a decision at all (cwickert, 14:44:17)
   8. IDEA: Split costs 50:50. Need to ask gnokii for more details on this (cwickert, 14:44:32)
   9. ACTION: cwickert to add the ideas for #394 to the ticket. each proposal should have one owner who can further elaborate it. (cwickert, 14:57:23)
   
   
2. Revoking mentor status (cwickert, 14:58:17)
   1. : The idea of revoking status has been discussed in Fedora for years, not only for mentors, but also for ambassadors or packagers. Every time the outcome was that we don't revoke a status people once earned. (cwickert, 15:01:24)
   2. We can ask people to give up their status, but IHMO we should not take it from them. We have technical means of marking contributors as inactive, this should fix the problem with mentors being unavailable. (cwickert, 15:02:24)
   3. Whoever disagrees and wants us to revoke the mentor status, please update ticket #394, make a clearly defined proposal and give a rationale. (cwickert, 15:03:23)
   4. ACTION: giannisk to add his ideas to #359 (cwickert, 15:12:40)
   
   
3. Nominating Giannis Konstantinidis for a mentor (cwickert, 15:13:38)
   1. IDEA: : Call for a vote in #379. voting period is one week, decision is made by lazy consensus. The only relevant question for the vote is if giannisk will be a good mentor. All other questions such as restructuring the mentors role should be discussed separately. (cwickert, 15:17:52)
   
   
4. Proposal: consider tranforming FAmSCo into "FOSCo" — Fedora Outreach Steering Committee (cwickert, 15:27:33)
   1. giannisk brought this up on the mailing list and the council asked me for a status report, too. I am supposed to give a presentation on this on 3 weeks. (cwickert, 15:28:24)
   2. In order to get other groups to buy in on the idea of FOSCo, we need to come up with a detailed proposal. (cwickert, 15:29:38)
   3. ACTION: all FAmSCo members: Please make a proposal in ticket #373. Your proposal should include 1) how is FOSCo composed (number of seats, from which groups etc)? and 2) what are FOSCos duties and rights (cwickert, 15:30:43)

Action items

1. cwickert to add the ideas for #394 to the ticket. each proposal should have one owner who can further elaborate it.
2. giannisk to add his ideas to #359
3. all FAmSCo members: Please make a proposal in ticket #373. Your proposal should include 1) how is FOSCo composed (number of seats, from which groups etc)? and 2) what are FOSCos duties and rights

Action items, by person

1. cwickert
   1. cwickert to add the ideas for #394 to the ticket. each proposal should have one owner who can further elaborate it.
2. giannisk
   1. giannisk to add his ideas to #359

People present (lines said)

1. cwickert (125)
2. nb (56)
3. potty (31)
4. tuanta (21)
5. zodbot (18)
6. decause (16)
7. giannisk (9)
8. yosef7 (3)
9. linuxmodder (2)