19:00:12 <biertie> #startmeeting Fedora-belux 19:00:12 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Nov 25 19:00:12 2009 UTC. The chair is biertie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00:12 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:00:25 <vincentvdk> ping 19:00:47 <biertie> so, who's here ;-) 19:00:51 <biertie> #topic rollcall 19:00:55 * biertie is here 19:01:00 <fhornain> Here I am. 19:01:15 <vincentvdk> fhornain: hi! 19:01:27 <fhornain> ; ) 19:01:48 <biertie> only 3? :( 19:01:57 <biertie> but ok 19:02:05 <biertie> #topic agenda 19:02:10 <vincentvdk> better then 2 :) 19:02:20 <biertie> 1. fosdem 2010 status 19:02:28 <biertie> 2. fedora release event 19:02:51 <biertie> and if kevin still joins us 19:02:55 <biertie> 3. the website 19:03:02 <vincentvdk> ok 19:03:08 <biertie> any other things we want to talk about? 19:03:09 <fhornain> Fine. 19:03:13 <vincentvdk> no 19:03:19 <fhornain> nop 19:03:20 <vincentvdk> that will do (for me) 19:03:27 <biertie> #topic Fosdem 2010 19:03:44 * biertie has to search the wiki page again 19:03:52 <biertie> fhornain: can you point me? 19:04:07 <fhornain> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FOSDEM_2010 19:04:27 <fhornain> For my part, I was really busy these week. 19:04:41 <fhornain> So I did not have time to work on it. 19:04:47 <biertie> vincentvdk: have you already mailed the hotels? 19:04:59 <vincentvdk> biertie: no, i'll do that tomorrow 19:05:08 <fhornain> Yes, I have received it from Vincent. 19:05:24 <vincentvdk> i also have got a lot of work at work 19:05:28 <biertie> fhornain: that's the list, he hasn't mailed to the hotels, or have you done that? 19:05:28 <vincentvdk> :) 19:05:29 <fhornain> I mean a mail about Hostels 19:05:33 <biertie> we all have ;-) 19:05:36 <fhornain> No probs. 19:05:48 <biertie> school, some projects I have to work on blah blah blah :( 19:05:53 <vincentvdk> i made a small list, but biertie asked if i mailed the hotels 19:06:03 <vincentvdk> i'll do that tomorrow 19:06:04 <fhornain> Now, I am waiting after the final devroom and booth attribution 19:06:13 <vincentvdk> do i've to put you guys in cc? 19:06:19 <biertie> ah, I have good news 19:06:28 <vincentvdk> fhornain: any news on the new devroom regulation? 19:06:32 <biertie> Gerald promised me to bring the big fedora roll things! 19:06:35 <biertie> that will be *awesome* 19:06:43 <vincentvdk> Fedora roll? 19:07:51 <biertie> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_gQ4q3hjYrFQ/SkEq1b3iKVI/AAAAAAAAAgM/jPELrABvylk/s400/sany0487_a.jpeg 19:08:00 <biertie> such things ;-) 19:08:09 <fhornain> FYI, the final devroom and booth attribution is planned to 29th November. Then, I could restart the project 19:08:13 <fhornain> Anyway, I ll keep you in touch both. 19:08:13 <fhornain> Or update the wiki site 19:08:20 <vincentvdk> ah, ok 19:08:28 <vincentvdk> ok, fine 19:08:51 <biertie> but I don't understand fosdem atm :s 19:08:59 <biertie> will we get a devroom, or won't we get one? -_- 19:09:18 <vincentvdk> are there people that are going to talk about something? 19:09:31 <fhornain> We should have a both but concerning the devroom rules have changed. 19:10:22 <biertie> but some things are confusing for me 19:10:28 <fhornain> See http://www.fosdem.org/2010/distrominiconf 19:10:34 <biertie> but maybe that's because I haven't read everything in detail 19:10:37 <vincentvdk> we'll now in a few days 19:11:17 <fhornain> 72 days until FOSDEM. 19:11:26 <vincentvdk> :) 19:11:28 <vincentvdk> not that long 19:11:56 <fhornain> After confirmation, I will work to invite people from JBoss and Fedora Project. 19:12:10 <vincentvdk> nice 19:12:30 <biertie> so, there will be a distro summit + normal devrooms? 19:12:56 <fhornain> yes but distribution would not have dedicated devroom. 19:13:14 <biertie> who will then? 19:13:17 <fhornain> however, if it is accepted JBoss will have one. 19:13:39 <biertie> so we will cheat a bit ;) 19:14:01 <fhornain> For distrib., there should have three commun devroom 19:14:51 <fhornain> I mean as far as I understood, Debian, CentOS, Suse, etc. will talk together on Packages for instance. 19:14:54 <biertie> yes, 3 devrooms for 10 distro's? ;-) 19:15:11 <vincentvdk> room is per Topic 19:15:15 <fhornain> You know, we are guests then .... 19:15:15 <vincentvdk> not per Distro 19:15:39 <fhornain> You have understood the complexity for this edition vincent. 19:15:53 <vincentvdk> fhornain: lol 19:16:00 <fhornain> Anyway, i have already good relation with Mandriva and CentOS 19:16:14 <vincentvdk> i'm not sure that this concept will work, but it makes sense 19:16:21 <fhornain> That is the requirement from FOSDEM team. 19:16:47 <fhornain> We will see. Anyway, i take the challenge. 19:17:07 <vincentvdk> who decides which topics will be discussed? 19:17:20 <vincentvdk> FOSDEM team? 19:17:31 <biertie> jep 19:17:34 <vincentvdk> ok 19:17:42 <fhornain> Us together. I mean Debian, Fedora, Suse, etc... 19:17:48 <vincentvdk> so we'll have to wait until they communicate the topics 19:17:49 <fhornain> Not so easy. 19:18:25 <biertie> in my humble opinion, they should move to a bigger building 19:18:32 <vincentvdk> other things about Fosdem? 19:18:34 <biertie> not come up with random stupid ideas -_- 19:18:42 <fhornain> No, you do not understand. Fedora can propose some subjects. 19:18:53 <fhornain> But subjects have to interest other distro... ;) 19:18:57 <vincentvdk> ah, ok 19:19:27 <biertie> But subjects have to interest other distro... ;) 19:19:33 <biertie> that's what I call stupid ;-) 19:19:37 <vincentvdk> i think the idea is good since there're more distro's then topics (sort of) 19:19:42 <fhornain> Bertie, a lot of people thinks as you do. 19:19:55 <biertie> but I want to talk about spacewalk... :) 19:20:03 <biertie> spacewalk = centos 19:20:04 <vincentvdk> you can 19:20:17 <biertie> what other distro would want to hear that? 19:20:19 <biertie> (except fedora) 19:20:33 <vincentvdk> Ubuntu has something like spacewalk? 19:20:36 <fhornain> it is a little bit reductive to thing distros = CentOS + Fedora, you know. 19:20:45 <biertie> something like... 19:20:57 <vincentvdk> biertie: ;) 19:21:11 <fhornain> Otherwise, i do not have other things in the pipe. So I ll keep you in touch. 19:21:12 <biertie> so, ubuntu will say: no, not spacewalk, we want to hear our stuff 19:21:18 <biertie> I don't believe in it ;-) 19:21:20 <vincentvdk> should we make a list of topics then? 19:21:46 <fhornain> I do not have input from Ubuntu on the miniconf idea. 19:22:15 <biertie> : - ) 19:22:22 <biertie> that wasn't my point 19:22:23 <fhornain> So I can guess how they will react if I propose them to talk about spacewalk. 19:22:24 <biertie> but ok ;-) 19:22:34 <vincentvdk> fhornain: :) 19:22:54 <fhornain> So I have to be in bg for few minutes. 19:23:06 <fhornain> I ll be back in 10mins 19:23:15 <vincentvdk> is there anything we can do at the moment for FOSDEM? 19:23:20 <biertie> #action vincentvdk mail hotels asap with request for +- 40 people 19:23:32 <vincentvdk> biertie: i'll do that 19:23:38 <biertie> #action fhornain keep us op up to date about fosdem 19:23:49 <biertie> vincentvdk: the actions are for zodbot ;-) 19:24:05 <biertie> it generates a nice list then :) 19:24:17 <vincentvdk> is he going to mail the hotels :) 19:24:18 <biertie> ok, next topic? 19:24:30 <vincentvdk> yes 19:24:47 <biertie> #topic fedora release event 19:25:08 <vincentvdk> i'll have to mail the docs for the kickstart 19:25:11 <vincentvdk> wait 19:25:16 <biertie> k 19:25:21 <vincentvdk> biertie: do you have a gmail account? 19:25:31 <biertie> biertie@gmail 19:25:41 <vincentvdk> ok, i'll share the document 19:27:17 <vincentvdk> you should have mail 19:28:17 <biertie> k 19:28:20 <biertie> will you be there? 19:29:23 <biertie> thx for the document 19:29:25 <vincentvdk> i think i'll make it 19:30:10 <vincentvdk> i'll mail you a kickstart example tomorrow 19:30:58 <biertie> k 19:31:06 <biertie> what what hour could you be there? 19:31:14 <vincentvdk> when do you start? 19:31:25 <biertie> 18h 19:31:34 <biertie> but if you can come a little bit earlier ;) 19:31:41 <vincentvdk> ok 19:31:52 <vincentvdk> from what time are you there? 19:32:02 <biertie> between 15 en 16h 19:32:19 <vincentvdk> ok 19:32:32 <vincentvdk> i'll try to be there earlier 19:32:41 <biertie> k 19:32:56 <biertie> would we do the presentations / installations in another room, or all in one room? 19:33:02 <vincentvdk> do you need pictures taken? 19:33:12 <vincentvdk> maybe all in one romm 19:33:17 <vincentvdk> room* 19:34:02 <biertie> k 19:34:02 <biertie> do you have a professional camera maybe? 19:34:02 <biertie> I have a digital ixus 85 19:34:26 <fhornain> have to leave guys. If on of you could sent the meeting notes by mail. I will appreciate. Thx a lot. bye. 19:34:30 <biertie> it's nice, but not (semi-)professional :) 19:34:43 <vincentvdk> fhornain: bye! 19:34:52 <vincentvdk> i've a Nikon D80 19:36:16 <vincentvdk> maybe i'll bring it with me 19:37:18 <vincentvdk> other things? 19:38:17 <biertie> what should I buy for robert? :P 19:38:25 <vincentvdk> buy? 19:38:48 <biertie> a present, because it's because of him we can use the school / have free food / drinks / ... 19:39:05 <vincentvdk> ah, don't know, a thinkpad :) 19:39:29 <biertie> ok 19:39:32 <vincentvdk> is he the IT guy of the school 19:39:32 <biertie> you can donate :p 19:39:36 <biertie> uu 19:39:36 <vincentvdk> sure 19:39:39 <vincentvdk> :) 19:39:54 <biertie> :D 19:40:12 <vincentvdk> i don't know 19:40:23 <vincentvdk> do you have a Fedora T shirt left or something? 19:40:34 <biertie> a couple 19:40:37 <biertie> ;-) 19:41:20 <vincentvdk> give him one 19:42:15 <vincentvdk> who is going to do a presentation? 19:42:17 <vincentvdk> :) 19:42:27 <biertie> me? ;) 19:42:34 <vincentvdk> ok 19:42:43 <biertie> you want to do one? 19:42:47 <biertie> more technical maybe 19:42:56 <vincentvdk> not my strongest point :) 19:43:05 <vincentvdk> and i don't have anything 19:43:19 <biertie> I thought you had a template? :p 19:43:56 <vincentvdk> it didn't work out 19:44:20 <vincentvdk> maybe we'll need to create one for belux stuff 19:44:35 <vincentvdk> i'll do one on the next release party 19:44:56 <biertie> hehe, k :D 19:45:05 <biertie> hope your company can sponsor some things against that time :D 19:45:14 <vincentvdk> hehe 19:45:16 <vincentvdk> maybe 19:45:19 <vincentvdk> i can ask 19:45:33 <biertie> I ment your hosting company ;-) 19:45:39 <vincentvdk> ah, hehe 19:45:39 <biertie> do you use fedora at your work aybe? 19:45:45 <biertie> *maybe 19:45:57 <vincentvdk> i've it it on my portable 19:46:10 <vincentvdk> i'm giving free hosting.... 19:46:17 <vincentvdk> i've to start little 19:46:19 <vincentvdk> :) 19:46:29 <biertie> hehe, I know 19:46:32 <vincentvdk> if i get more customers.... 19:46:37 <biertie> I was just teasing you a bit ;-) 19:46:44 <vincentvdk> no problem 19:46:58 <biertie> but yeah 19:47:10 <biertie> we should search company's that use fedora on a daily basis in belgium 19:47:35 <vincentvdk> i don't think that will be easy 19:47:45 <vincentvdk> lets get on topic now 19:47:49 <vincentvdk> we'll chat later 19:48:02 <vincentvdk> other things you need for the release party? 19:48:11 <biertie> if you have fedora stuff, bring it ;) 19:48:15 <biertie> should I bring my olpc? 19:48:17 <vincentvdk> i'll have my laptop reinstalled 19:48:47 <vincentvdk> can you do something with olpc and F12? 19:49:07 <biertie> the newest olpc is fedora 11 based ;) 19:49:16 <vincentvdk> i'll have to send the flyer to some people at work 19:49:33 <vincentvdk> you can always bring it 19:49:35 <biertie> lol, you're getting late ;) 19:49:47 <vincentvdk> yes i know 19:49:52 <vincentvdk> i'm to busy 19:50:03 <vincentvdk> but wat do you do :) 19:50:24 <vincentvdk> do you bring your laptop? 19:51:37 <biertie> off course 19:51:44 <biertie> if need to play presentations ;-) 19:51:45 <vincentvdk> ok 19:51:53 <vincentvdk> yes, stupid of me 19:51:57 <biertie> :P 19:52:01 <vincentvdk> reinstall afterwards? 19:53:16 <biertie> nah 19:53:20 <vincentvdk> :) 19:53:38 <vincentvdk> next topic? 19:54:45 <biertie> ok 19:54:48 <biertie> #topic website 19:54:59 <vincentvdk> the domain is online 19:55:05 <biertie> que? 19:55:06 <vincentvdk> what are we going to do next? 19:55:29 <vincentvdk> you didn't see it? 19:55:39 <biertie> irefox can't find the server at be.fedoraproject.org. 19:56:02 <vincentvdk> be.fedoracommunity.org 19:56:12 <biertie> ach damn -_- 19:56:27 <biertie> cool :) 19:56:31 <vincentvdk> hehe 19:56:40 <biertie> so, we'll throw a standard drupal install on it? 19:56:44 <vincentvdk> if you want i can install a Drupal 19:56:49 <vincentvdk> sure 19:57:20 <biertie> couf has excperience with drupal 19:57:24 <biertie> so he can do some magic with it 19:57:25 <vincentvdk> who is doing the css magic? 19:57:25 <vincentvdk> ok 19:57:34 <biertie> I will make the fedora template over it :) 19:57:35 <vincentvdk> so we have to contact him 19:57:37 <biertie> css magic thuss ;) 19:57:44 <vincentvdk> yeah, css is nice 19:57:54 <biertie> you have mailed him the account details, right? 19:58:01 <vincentvdk> than all we need is some content 19:58:03 <vincentvdk> yes 19:58:10 <vincentvdk> Frederic mailed them 19:58:21 <vincentvdk> i'm not sure he was in the list 19:58:25 <vincentvdk> i'll check 19:59:24 <biertie> he was ;) 19:59:24 <biertie> couf@ 19:59:33 <vincentvdk> ok 19:59:51 <biertie> but I'll talk to him over facebook chat 19:59:59 <vincentvdk> ok, fine 19:59:59 <biertie> he will be at the release party too btw 20:00:00 <biertie> so :) 20:00:03 <vincentvdk> cool 20:00:10 <vincentvdk> we'll talk then 20:00:20 <vincentvdk> we can close this meeting i think 20:00:29 <vincentvdk> unless you've something? 20:00:39 <biertie> not really 20:00:46 <vincentvdk> ok 20:00:48 <biertie> I just hope everything goes ok on the event :) 20:01:01 <biertie> thx all for being here ;-) 20:01:06 <biertie> #endmeeting