00:01:45 <jjmcd> #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting 2010-01-21
00:01:45 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Jan 21 00:01:45 2010 UTC.  The chair is jjmcd. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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00:01:58 <jjmcd> #topic roll call
00:02:04 * jjmcd .
00:02:09 * quaid 
00:02:21 * rudi is here but not with 100% attention...
00:03:19 <jjmcd> Sorry if a little disorganized.  I only found out sparks was AWOL a couple minutes ago
00:03:39 <jjmcd> #topic F13 Release Schedule
00:03:46 * laubersm stands in the back
00:03:52 <jjmcd> #link http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13/f-13-docs-and-trans-tasks.html
00:04:05 <jjmcd> Don't be hiding laubersm
00:04:23 <jjmcd> ANyone have any comments, difficulties etc with the F13 schedule?
00:05:03 <jjmcd> I was unable to find my notes for John and haven't had time to recreate them, but they weren't biggies anyway
00:05:38 <quaid> for the last release, were there any miscommunications
00:05:42 <quaid> or disconnects?
00:05:45 <jjmcd> Yes
00:05:48 <jjmcd> quite a few
00:05:58 <jjmcd> I think most got addressed in the new schedule
00:05:59 <quaid> do we need to get an actual affirmative from people about the schedule?
00:06:09 <quaid> "Put your name on this wiki page" or mark a checkbox or something?
00:06:38 <jjmcd> That might be worthwhile, although I suspect ianweller, danielsmw, ke4qqq and othere may or may not be here
00:06:58 <jjmcd> But there is a good idea quaid
00:07:22 <jjmcd> #action jjmcd will put up a wiki page for each of the content owners to agree to the schedule
00:07:44 <jjmcd> Everyone OK with that?
00:07:57 <laubersm> I think the larger communication issues were with other groups though...  like releng needing the rpm before we were scheduled to build it..
00:08:20 <laubersm> I'm good with the sched (as much as I have looked) and good with a wiki to get the people really involved to sign off
00:08:21 <jjmcd> Well, yeah.  That was a biggie, and you better believe this time i triple checked
00:08:56 <jjmcd> And we will have some surprises this time since we are handling the L10N interface differently
00:09:33 <jjmcd> OK, anything else on the schedule?
00:10:18 <jjmcd> Moving on
00:10:24 <jjmcd> #topic Desktop Help Summit
00:10:40 <jjmcd> #link http://live.gnome.org/DesktopHelpSummit2010
00:10:52 <jjmcd> OK, it looks as if sparks might not be able to go
00:11:02 <laubersm> too far out on the schedule for me to say if I can be there.  But it is not out of the question.
00:11:04 <jjmcd> laubersm, any news on whether you will make it?
00:11:10 <jjmcd> OK
00:11:24 <jjmcd> Is anyone else thinking about it?
00:11:34 <laubersm> Still even a possibilty I can get RH schedule me to teach up there before or after (thus covering plane at the same time)
00:11:59 <jjmcd> That would be a perfect scenario
00:12:08 <laubersm> They won't have the schedule together for a while (working on the first 2 weeks of Feb today)
00:12:22 <jjmcd> Right now I think I am the only for sure going, and we really should have two or three of us
00:12:45 <jjmcd> I told Max in a perfect world, rudi would be there but he didn't bite
00:12:55 <laubersm> :)
00:13:08 <rudi> lolz thanks anyway :)
00:13:33 <jjmcd> Well, especially without sparks it would be really good, but it is kind of a hike
00:14:04 <jjmcd> Anything else on the summit?
00:14:27 <jjmcd> Oh, I started to mention, Max did indicate he can make some funding available
00:14:58 <jjmcd> And we really should have more representation than me if Susan can't make it
00:15:51 <jjmcd> OK, moving on
00:16:08 <jjmcd> #topic Release Notes
00:16:30 <jjmcd> This one is quick.  I did post a new updated test RPM if anyone wants to test
00:16:44 <jjmcd> I don't have the link right here but I did send it to the list
00:17:06 * quaid has to move networks (head home), bbi7m
00:17:13 <jjmcd> Paul made a good catch on the first one, but other than that
00:17:16 <jjmcd> Thanks quaid
00:17:37 <jjmcd> Any questions, updates, comments, concerns about release notes?
00:18:27 <jjmcd> #topic Status on CMS (Zikula)
00:18:35 <jjmcd> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zikula#Module_status
00:18:57 <jjmcd> I'm not so sure we have any of the usual suspects here
00:19:05 <jjmcd> Any reports on Zikula?
00:20:02 <jjmcd> I guess not
00:20:13 <jjmcd> so
00:20:23 <jjmcd> #topic Guide Status
00:20:42 <jjmcd> rudi, any comments/updates on the guides?
00:21:01 <rudi> jjmcd -- nothing this week
00:21:11 <jjmcd> OK, anyone else on guides?
00:21:47 <jjmcd> #topic New Guides
00:22:04 <jjmcd> Anyone starting new guides?
00:23:21 <jjmcd> #topic All other business
00:23:22 <radsy> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/selinux-faq/ i'm updating that
00:23:30 <jjmcd> OK, here I do have something
00:24:23 <jjmcd> It looks as if sparks may be scarce for a little while here, I don't have any data on how long at this point, so if you see a leadership vacuum please don't be shy about stepping up
00:25:32 <jjmcd> Of course, under normal circumstances there is no need to be timid, but for now try to get over your timidity please
00:25:57 <jjmcd> Ahh, rasdy, sorry I middes that
00:26:16 <jjmcd> How are you coming?  Need anything?
00:26:35 <radsy> nope, going fine - waiting for the next sync on that page, and adding a lot from dwalsh@
00:26:57 <jjmcd> good deal
00:27:12 <jjmcd> I still need to do some recruiting for the ARG
00:27:15 <radsy> was considerably out-dated
00:27:40 <jjmcd> hehe - that is something that needs not only documentation, but also marketing
00:28:52 <radsy> i also had a couple of EOI for adding to the wireless-guide, but no email responses or IRC arrivals :(
00:29:10 <jjmcd> ahh
00:29:30 <jjmcd> I think a lot of people imagine that they aren't 31337 enough or something
00:30:14 <radsy> nothing else from me at this point
00:30:27 <jjmcd> Is there anything else for the good of the order?
00:30:51 <jjmcd> If you're thinking about going to Chicago, think harder!
00:31:29 <jjmcd> last call
00:31:43 <jjmcd> 9
00:31:46 <jjmcd> 8
00:31:52 <jjmcd> 7
00:31:56 <jjmcd> 6
00:32:01 <jjmcd> 5
00:32:01 <laubersm> 12
00:32:03 <laubersm> 42
00:32:04 <laubersm> hut
00:32:10 <jjmcd> 432
00:32:19 <jjmcd> #endmeeting