03:59:15 <bckurera> #startmeeting 03:59:15 <zodbot> Meeting started Sat Feb 4 03:59:15 2012 UTC. The chair is bckurera. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 03:59:15 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 03:59:26 <bckurera> #meetingname APAC biweekly 03:59:26 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'apac_biweekly' 03:59:48 <bckurera> meeting agenda can be found at 03:59:51 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-02-04 04:00:09 <bckurera> #topic Ambassador Pinging 04:00:22 <bckurera> .fas bckurera 04:00:23 <zodbot> bckurera: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' <bckurera@gmail.com> 04:00:36 <azneita> .fas azneita 04:00:37 <dramsey> .fas dramsey 04:00:37 <zodbot> azneita: dona 'dona marie grace' <dona@azneita.org> - azneita '' <herson@azneita.org> 04:00:40 <tatica> .fas tatica 04:00:40 <bckurera> bckurera from Sri Lanka using F15 04:00:40 <zodbot> dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' <diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com> 04:00:45 <zodbot> tatica: tatica 'Maria Gracia Leandro Lombardo' <tatadbb@gmail.com> 04:00:57 <dramsey> Hello Everyone! 04:01:01 <azneita> .... magie and engels should be here any minute 04:01:07 <magie> here 04:01:07 <dramsey> :D 04:01:18 <born2linux> hi 04:01:25 <MarkDude> .fas markdude 04:01:27 <zodbot> MarkDude: markdude 'Mark Terranova' <mark@gidgetkitchen.org> 04:01:43 <bckurera> #topic News from FAmSCo 04:01:44 * azneita waves to magie 04:01:57 <bckurera> I have added one news to the agenda 04:02:01 <bckurera> is there anything else? 04:02:15 <magie> .fas magie 04:02:16 <zodbot> magie: magi 'Rafal Magiera' <R.K.Magiera@wsisiz.edu.pl> - geatz87 'Bogusław Magiera' <geatz87@tlen.pl> - magie 'Magie Antonio' <magie@bluepoint.com.ph> 04:02:23 <LMartinez> .fas asmartgoat 04:02:24 <zodbot> LMartinez: asmartgoat 'Luke Martinez' <me@luke.asia> 04:02:26 <bckurera> #chair dramsey tuanta 04:02:26 <zodbot> Current chairs: bckurera dramsey tuanta 04:02:34 <born2linux> .fas engels 04:02:35 <zodbot> born2linux: engels 'Engels Antonio' <engels@bluepoint.com.ph> 04:02:38 <dramsey> Good showing today! 04:02:50 <dramsey> bckurera, sounds good 04:02:56 <bckurera> #chair azneita LMartinez 04:02:56 <zodbot> Current chairs: LMartinez azneita bckurera dramsey tuanta 04:03:14 <bckurera> please read the proposal and make your comments 04:03:18 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_talk:Cwickert/Proposed_FAmSCo_election_rules 04:03:38 * bckurera busy with adding chair to the meeting 04:03:48 <FranciscoD> .fas FranciscoD 04:03:49 <zodbot> FranciscoD: ankursinha 'Ankur Sinha' <sanjay.ankur@gmail.com> 04:04:06 <bckurera> #chair born2linux MarkDude FranciscoD 04:04:06 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD LMartinez MarkDude azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey tuanta 04:04:13 <FranciscoD> lol 04:04:21 <bckurera> if there is no nay news left shall we move? 04:04:46 <FranciscoD> move++ 04:04:50 <bckurera> #chair magie 04:04:50 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD LMartinez MarkDude azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey magie tuanta 04:04:51 <dramsey> move 04:05:02 <bckurera> #topic Review *ACTION* items from the last meeting 04:05:32 <aolsystems_> hello guys 04:05:34 <dramsey> #chair aolsystems 04:05:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD LMartinez MarkDude aolsystems azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey magie tuanta 04:05:37 <bckurera> AI 1 : bckurera ships swag soon as possible 04:05:51 <aolsystems_> born2linux: hello 04:06:06 <aolsystems_> azneita: hello 04:06:10 <dramsey> Hi aolsystems 04:06:11 <bckurera> This is in progress; shipped to Ph yesterday 04:06:24 <bckurera> AI 2: update your F17 release parties to the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_events 04:06:24 <dramsey> +1 bckurera 04:06:30 <aolsystems_> dramsey: +1 04:06:37 <azneita> thanks bckurera 04:06:39 <born2linux> hi aolsystems 04:06:41 <LMartinez> #chair harish 04:06:42 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD LMartinez MarkDude aolsystems azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey harish magie tuanta 04:06:49 <dramsey> +1 bckurera 04:06:54 <bckurera> I think all will update info in the wiki 04:07:05 <bckurera> AI 3: Suresh draft a process which can help to push the APAC plan forward 04:07:12 <FranciscoD> bckurera: keep adding them as tasks/ideas please, for the logs :) 04:07:13 <bckurera> I cannot see suresh here today 04:07:34 <bckurera> FranciscoD +1 04:07:36 * FranciscoD cant either :P 04:07:58 <bckurera> any other concerns? 04:08:19 <bckurera> #action All FAms, update your F17 release parties to the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_events 04:08:26 <bckurera> shall we move then? 04:08:35 <dramsey> +1 04:08:41 <bckurera> #topic APAC Trac for Regional Support 04:08:51 <bckurera> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/14 04:09:11 <bckurera> I have no updates from the reporter but I saw harish is clearing the payments 04:09:19 <bckurera> #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/india/2012-January/005150.html 04:09:29 <bckurera> above is the update from mether 04:09:41 <bckurera> harish anything to note please? 04:09:42 <FranciscoD> ah, is this the ticket I filed? 04:09:44 * FranciscoD goes to look 04:09:59 <bckurera> yeas FranciscoD it is your ticket 04:10:24 <FranciscoD> bckurera: harish has completed international reimbursements 04:10:35 <bckurera> #info please add meeting keyword when you file a ticket at apac trac to make it traceable 04:10:37 <FranciscoD> mether said he'll do the India specific ones as soon as he's back in office 04:10:40 <bckurera> you got the fund? 04:10:49 <FranciscoD> not yet, Rahul isn't back yet 04:10:50 <bckurera> ok nice 04:11:08 <bckurera> yeas FranciscoD can you close the ticket then with proper note 04:11:34 <FranciscoD> We can just leave the ticket open for the time being? I'll close it when everyone's received their reimbursements? 04:11:41 <aolsystems_> pls anyone update me if the FUDCONhas already been awarded?thanks 04:11:46 <bckurera> sounds good 04:11:55 <bckurera> can we move forward guys? 04:11:59 <dramsey> +1 04:12:09 <bckurera> #topic APAC Events 04:12:14 <dramsey> bckurera perfect! 04:12:25 * bckurera --> today meeting move fast 04:12:36 <FranciscoD> fast++ 04:12:42 <bckurera> Next APAC FUDCon 2012[likely it will happen['China' or 'Malayisia' or 'Philippines']] 04:13:00 <azneita> it's more fun in the philippines :D 04:13:04 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents#FY12_Q4_.28December_2011_-_February_2012.29_2 04:13:28 <bckurera> I had organized an event last January thats all what we did recently 04:13:43 <bckurera> Udinnet and hasithakj represented the event 04:13:53 <bckurera> any updates? 04:14:09 <bckurera> KageSenshi updated about their FAD 04:14:17 <FranciscoD> Some Ambassadors in Bangalore are taking a workshop someplace this Sunday. I've asked them for more details, such as blog posts etc. 04:14:29 <dramsey> +1 for KageSenshi's and others FADs. 04:14:32 <bckurera> #link https://plus.google.com/u/0/109153510244556917522/posts/R9QP5Tdnepn 04:14:40 <bckurera> #link https://plus.google.com/u/0/109153510244556917522/posts/LYupFAJJPEy 04:14:51 <bckurera> Please go through pictures while the report will be ready 04:14:54 <FranciscoD> I've received a request for a workshop later this month from an institute 04:15:00 <bckurera> great work my fedorians 04:15:12 <dramsey> bckurera, I think to hear about Philippine's ideas for FUDCon APAC would be good. What do you think? 04:15:34 <FranciscoD> but I'm unsure if we'll make it. The workshop is part of an event, which seems highly commercialized 04:15:51 <bckurera> Thats good dramsey 04:15:55 <dramsey> I think that would be good since last time, only Malaysia's input onlly heard. 04:15:58 <dramsey> Cool 04:16:07 <bckurera> sorry but I missed the last meeting where FUDcon bit was discussed 04:16:08 <dramsey> azneita, magie and engels, do you have any input for FUDCon in Philippines? 04:16:22 <dramsey> bckurera, i know you review logs 04:16:22 <azneita> magie is running point for much of our bid, she's here :) 04:16:53 <bckurera> dramsey I read but I saw you all agree with my bid with #agree 04:17:19 <bckurera> anyway I think we can listen magie thats good 04:17:33 <magie> thanks 04:17:36 <magie> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Philippines_2012 04:18:00 <magie> the group's main concern right now is timing 04:18:06 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Philippines_2012 04:18:33 <tatica> ! 04:18:38 <dramsey> #chair FranciscoD_ 04:18:38 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ LMartinez MarkDude aolsystems azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey harish magie tuanta 04:19:05 <azneita> yes, tatica 04:19:08 <tatica> I would recomend not going on July first week since might colide with FUDcon LATAM. eof 04:19:13 <FranciscoD_> dramsey: this nicks only for backup, in case my other connection lags too much :P 04:19:27 <azneita> noted tatica 04:19:35 <bckurera> thanks tatica 04:19:49 <MarkDude> #chair tatica 04:19:49 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ LMartinez MarkDude aolsystems azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey harish magie tatica tuanta 04:19:54 <tatica> oh 04:19:56 <tatica> :$ 04:20:13 <magie> thanks tatica 04:20:35 <FranciscoD> #info FUDCon APAC: recomend not going on July first week since might colide with FUDcon LATAM. 04:20:46 <magie> we have a wide range of date to choose from 04:21:03 <dramsey> I think Philippines has had many FADs and other Linux events. This is a strong advantage as well as good team. 04:21:05 <magie> and are quite flexible for other schedules 04:21:30 <born2linux> ! 04:21:50 <bckurera> magie when you finish enter 'eof' 04:21:59 <bckurera> then we can go for others 04:22:26 <azneita> born2linux, please 04:22:39 <magie> bckurera: i am not yet finished 04:23:02 <bckurera> magie : please go ahead and when finish let us know with eof - thanks 04:23:20 <born2linux> go ahead magie 04:23:55 <born2linux> i think bckurera is in a hurry 04:24:17 <FranciscoD> always good to keep meetings short :) 04:24:37 * bckurera :) 04:24:48 <magie> in that case, eof 04:26:06 <bckurera> born2linux please 04:26:24 <bckurera> if you want more time please take it magie, no problem 04:26:57 * azneita also would like to note that for this year, bluepoint cleared their schedule to help us coordinate for this bid 04:28:04 <dramsey> +1 04:28:05 <bckurera> please input ideas and data 04:28:09 <azneita> this means we'll have a dedicated team on the ground doing the coordinating 04:28:25 <azneita> if ever the bid goes our way 04:28:42 <bckurera> ! 04:28:48 <azneita> the main points of our bid are in the bid page 04:29:00 <azneita> how about you guys ask us your concerns 04:29:09 <azneita> eof 04:29:16 <bckurera> how many dedicated contributors in number azneita 04:29:20 <bckurera> eof 04:29:47 <FranciscoD> How about we spend some time thinking up, and bring up our concerns in the next meeting? It isn't really easy to think and question on the fly, might miss a lot. 04:30:01 <azneita> fair enough 04:30:15 <azneita> i guess we can move on then 04:30:18 <azneita> :) 04:30:19 <FranciscoD> azneita: please add an action item :P 04:30:23 <dramsey> For next meeting on February 18th, I think there is great opportunity to have FUDCon APAC in Philippines, what are your best points for conducting there? 04:30:24 <bckurera> We can move to ML as well - fudconplanning ML 04:30:29 <dramsey> +1 04:30:58 <born2linux> bckurera seems to be very excited about ml 04:31:19 <FranciscoD> born2linux: more people, more time to think and write 04:31:20 <bckurera> please add an action item azneita 04:31:35 <dramsey> Unfortunately, I "strongly" think that by the next meeting the "decision" will have been made. 04:31:50 <bckurera> born2linux : ML are really good so that we can think a lot and write comprehensive ideas +1 FranciscoD 04:32:08 <FranciscoD> dramsey: +1, 04:32:13 <FranciscoD> we'll do it asap on the ML then 04:32:14 <azneita> bckurera, sorry missed the whole action thing 04:32:23 <tatica> ! 04:32:37 <bckurera> Dramsey I need to clarify then, still APAC took no decision where to host next fudcon 04:32:40 <bckurera> am I right? 04:32:57 <bckurera> tatica please 04:32:59 <tatica> does APAC as team take the decition on the next FUDCon location or go through FAmSCo? (is mostly a latam doubt that I have). eof 04:33:11 <born2linux> i just wish there's equal time for everyone 04:33:25 <FranciscoD> FAmSCo makes recommendation to the FPL iirc 04:33:38 <FranciscoD> after going through bids etc 04:33:41 <azneita> that's about it FranciscoD 04:33:53 <tatica> kk, so same guidelines. thx :) 04:34:35 * bckurera confused 04:34:40 <azneita> since APAC will come before LATAM, we need to come up with a decision fast 04:34:52 <azneita> :) 04:34:58 <tatica> after 04:35:11 <tatica> Latam will go on June/July 04:36:40 <bckurera> is there any ideas? floor is empty 04:36:51 <bckurera> move or discuss more about this? 04:37:24 <FranciscoD> next++ 04:37:33 * FranciscoD notices we've gone slow again 04:37:50 <bckurera> shall we move azneita? 04:37:52 * harish i am back 04:38:11 <azneita> yeah, let's move. 04:38:26 <bckurera> #topic Status of F17 Release Parties 04:38:47 <bckurera> If anyone needs time please use open floor slot 04:38:49 <FranciscoD> ! 04:38:59 <bckurera> please FranciscoD 04:39:27 <FranciscoD> I haven't exactly planned the Release party completely, but I intend to get the Bangalore ambassadors together and cut a fedora cake *at least* 04:39:43 * FranciscoD will update the events page etc, as soon as the plan is cemented 04:39:55 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_events 04:40:10 <bckurera> nice idea FranciscoD +1 04:40:23 <bckurera> anyother ideas? 04:40:30 <FranciscoD> please remember to take as many pictures as you can, for every event you do 04:40:36 <FranciscoD> and reports are a must :) 04:40:37 <MarkDude> Are people calling them F17 parties? Or Beefy Miracle celebrations? 04:40:41 <FranciscoD> EOF 04:40:57 <FranciscoD> MarkDude: well, I'd get slaughtered for calling it beefy miracle celebrations here in India 04:41:06 <FranciscoD> so I'll stick to F17 parties ;) 04:41:26 <bckurera> I like Beefy Miracle celebrations +1 04:42:02 * FranciscoD heard quite a few Indian Ambassadors werent really happy with beefy miracle too, (cultural issues) 04:42:11 <MarkDude> We had Beefy Miracle party- and made sure folks knew vegetarian stuff would be there 04:42:15 <dramsey> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_events 04:42:16 <kaio> Hi 04:42:17 <bckurera> FranciscoD : Events reports are a must for getting funds so write them 04:42:18 <dramsey> #chair kaio 04:42:18 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ LMartinez MarkDude aolsystems azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey harish kaio magie tatica tuanta 04:42:23 <kaio> Hehe 04:42:39 <FranciscoD> MarkDude: the menu isn't important, just calling it beefy miracle will get me beaten up at places 04:42:43 * FranciscoD wants to live :P 04:42:54 <FranciscoD> reports++ 04:43:06 <MarkDude> Fair enough FranciscoD 04:43:06 <bckurera> understand FranciscoD 04:43:39 <bckurera> Please start planning about swags and media as well 04:43:48 <dramsey> +1 bckurera 04:43:52 <bckurera> producing them early will give you much comfort 04:44:04 <FranciscoD> earlier the better 04:44:05 <bckurera> any more to add to this topic before leaving this? 04:44:07 <kaio> ++ 04:44:18 <FranciscoD> if theres nothing more to add, lets move 04:44:24 <kaio> Agree 04:44:34 <dramsey> F16 LiveCDs available with Harish, please contact for your needs. 04:44:41 <LMartinez> +1 dramsey 04:44:49 <bckurera> #topic APAC Plans for 2012 (Suresh) 04:44:50 <bckurera> we miss suresh today 04:45:07 <bckurera> any updates? 04:45:17 <LMartinez> #info If anybody requires a OLPC please email me @luke.asia :) 04:45:20 <FranciscoD> nah, don't think so 04:45:20 <LMartinez> ^^ :) 04:45:37 <FranciscoD> LMartinez: ah, I was under the impression that you need to buy them in bulk? 04:45:43 <bckurera> wow nice to have ome LMartinez 04:45:50 <LMartinez> No, i have one in my possession 04:45:58 <FranciscoD> ah, okay :) 04:46:14 <dramsey> Is that a #info ? 04:46:14 <FranciscoD> bckurera: nothing from suresh, please move ahead 04:46:25 <bckurera> shall we move 04:46:29 <kaio> Ok 04:46:32 <FranciscoD> yes, move++ 04:46:35 <bckurera> #topic Fedora and Red Hat System Administration Study Group for Ambassadors (dramsey) 04:46:39 <bckurera> it is dramsey's 04:46:49 <dramsey> latest information 04:46:51 <dramsey> #link https://github.com/herlo/sysadminSG 04:47:26 <dramsey> I am trying to get another opportunity for those interested to try out the Amazon EC2 images for Study Group. 04:47:27 <dramsey> eof 04:47:41 <FranciscoD> nice dramsey :) 04:47:47 <bckurera> others? 04:48:09 <bckurera> move? 04:48:12 <dramsey> +1 04:48:13 <FranciscoD> yes 04:48:28 <bckurera> #topic Teach fedora using Videos campaign (ankursinha) 04:48:38 <FranciscoD> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Niteshnarayan/video_tutorials#Fedora_Videos_Team 04:48:39 <bckurera> our topic tatica franciscoD 04:48:46 <FranciscoD> aye 04:48:57 <FranciscoD> this is also to teach people more, using videos 04:49:19 <FranciscoD> I'd like more folks to help out, specially to submit more videos :) 04:49:25 <FranciscoD> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha/Video_locations_analysis 04:49:47 <FranciscoD> These are the locations that we are considering 04:49:53 <FranciscoD> needs to be finalized in this weeks meeting 04:50:12 <FranciscoD> tatica will send out a reminder. Please keep an eye out for it :) 04:50:29 <bckurera> we are having meetings on Thursdays; 1530 UTC 04:50:43 <FranciscoD> if you've already done stuff like this before, please help us out :) 04:50:45 <FranciscoD> eof 04:50:53 <bckurera> tatica anything to add? 04:50:53 <MarkDude> And does anyone have video edting skills? 04:51:19 <tatica> sry, had to move 04:51:26 <FranciscoD> #info Need folks with video editing skills 04:51:30 <dramsey> Sounds like a #info #idea or #action 04:51:34 <dramsey> +1 FranciscoD 04:51:34 <FranciscoD> #info need video editing software 04:51:39 <tatica> no, pls keep watching mail list and wiki page 04:51:40 <bckurera> please tatica we are waiting for you 04:51:50 <tatica> all need will be welcome (and we need a lot) 04:52:01 <tatica> I will be bloging shortly about it 04:52:01 <FranciscoD> #info Keep an eye on Mailing Lists for progress on fedora videos 04:52:01 <tatica> eof 04:52:08 * FranciscoD will too 04:52:30 <bckurera> #info Please share created fedora video with the video team to add them to the wiki 04:52:37 <bckurera> move then?? 04:52:37 <tatica> ! 04:52:40 <FranciscoD> #info If you've made a screencast, send it to us. TODAY! :) 04:52:43 <bckurera> please tatica 04:52:52 <tatica> oh, pls.. if you're helping or interested on contribute, add yourself 04:53:04 <tatica> will make easier to get in touch if we know who wants to be part of this 04:53:04 <tatica> eof 04:53:14 <FranciscoD> tatica++ 04:53:39 <bckurera> shall we move then? 04:53:51 <FranciscoD> yes 04:54:10 <magie> +1 04:54:15 <born2linux> +1 04:54:18 <dramsey> +1 04:55:26 <dramsey> #chair bckurera_ 04:55:26 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ LMartinez MarkDude aolsystems azneita bckurera bckurera_ born2linux dramsey harish kaio magie tatica tuanta 04:55:38 <FranciscoD> bckurera_: next please :P 04:55:38 <bckurera_> thanks lost the connection 04:55:46 <bckurera_> #topic Fedora Participation 04:55:52 <bckurera_> no owner for the topic anyway 04:56:23 <bckurera_> any ideas or next topic? 04:57:04 <MarkDude> ! 04:57:05 <bckurera_> shall we move? 04:57:05 <dramsey> Just ideas bckurera_ we may move forward 04:57:14 <bckurera_> please MarkDude 04:57:29 * MarkDude really thinks the international part of Fedora is underplayed 04:57:34 <MarkDude> as in - 04:57:41 <MarkDude> it is one of my favorite parts 04:57:51 <MarkDude> And when talking to people locally 04:58:11 <MarkDude> they like the idea of interacting with people a long way away 04:59:00 * MarkDude thinks that brainstorming ideas can happen on Google + and other ways for folks to reach out 04:59:03 <MarkDude> eof 04:59:13 <dramsey> +1 04:59:18 <bckurera_> can you add this as an idea MarkDude 04:59:39 <MarkDude> Sure 04:59:45 <bckurera_> thanks 05:00:24 <bckurera_> then are we moving? 05:00:27 <MarkDude> #idea Brainstorm ideas to help international interaction 05:00:31 <dramsey> +1 05:00:37 <dramsey> Yup, move forward 05:00:39 <MarkDude> ++ 05:00:46 <bckurera_> #topic Open Floor 05:00:51 <FranciscoD> ! 05:00:58 <bckurera_> we can discuss the bids here as well 05:01:05 <dramsey> +1 bckurera_ 05:01:06 <bckurera_> FranciscoD please 05:01:09 <azneita> thanks, the main difference between PH and other bids is that we have bluepoint willing to take a large role for our FUDCon bid 05:01:17 <FranciscoD> I wanted your input on this: 05:01:32 <azneita> bluepoint is an NGO which has been big for us 05:01:49 <azneita> serving as hubs for many if not all our local events 05:01:50 <born2linux> +1 05:02:03 <born2linux> bluepoint has been promoting fedora since core 1 05:02:05 * FranciscoD will wait for the FUDCon discussion to finish :) 05:02:18 <bckurera_> azneita +1 ; i heard blueprint, they are behind most of the events in PH 05:02:39 <azneita> with them having a larger role in this bid, we'll have resources and manpower that otherwise we would not have 05:02:43 <magie> thanks FranciscoD :) 05:02:59 <azneita> they cleared their schedule for us this year 05:03:00 <bckurera_> other please discuss if you want to raise anything 05:03:28 <born2linux> bluepoint has been conducting foss events for almost 13 years now 05:03:54 <magie> back to what i was trying to say earlier 05:04:10 <bckurera_> yeas magie please go for it 05:04:13 <tatica> ! 05:04:48 <magie> bluepoint will support fudcon ph and has allocated resources this year 05:05:22 <magie> hence the timing aspect of the bid 05:05:45 * bckurera_ thinking of two FUDcons per year in APAC, who is supporting? 05:05:46 <azneita> yes tatica 05:05:58 <tatica> even if is important to have a big sponsor. I think you need to choose your FUDCon location based on: is people making a chance to Fedora? - will this even give them more oportunities to grow as community? - will we find more contributors in here? 05:05:59 <tatica> eof 05:06:13 <tatica> s/chance/change 05:06:14 <tatica> sry 05:06:25 <azneita> tatica, yes 05:06:44 <born2linux> thanks tatica, this has been considered 05:07:38 <azneita> in our past events, we have tremendous feedback about fedora and i believe there is room to grow 05:07:55 <born2linux> we are making our first bid because there is a large potential base of contributors in ph 05:08:17 <azneita> our local community is now at 74 and has continued to grow 05:08:29 <born2linux> as you may have noticed, there are only ~5 active fedora contributors from ph at this time 05:08:48 <born2linux> we would like to raise this number significantly 05:09:24 * harish would like to know what the ~5 active contributors are 05:09:49 <azneita> also, FOSS events in the philippines tend to be smallish 05:09:52 * bckurera_ listed on the bid page I think 05:10:08 <harish> thanks. 05:10:09 <azneita> having abig event like a fudcon here will drum up interest 05:10:22 <dramsey> +1 05:10:26 <magie> +1 05:10:29 <born2linux> +1 05:10:42 <kaio> Yes 05:10:51 <born2linux> there are a lot of folks just waiting to participate, especially from the academe 05:11:35 <azneita> it will also be a good venue for professionals needing a venue to come together 05:11:46 <azneita> i think lei pointed that out when we last met 05:12:44 <magie> i would like to add that the country's top 2 universities are the proposed venues for this bid 05:13:25 * harish would like to comment on this 05:13:32 <azneita> yes harish 05:13:52 <harish> looking at the bid document, i don't think the cost of airfare is as written in. 05:14:07 <born2linux> ? 05:14:16 <azneita> let me check 05:14:22 <born2linux> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Philippines_2012#Estimated_Cost_of_Flights 05:14:25 <harish> also could you include the ~5 contributors? 05:14:47 <harish> i doubt i can get a US$43 flight from SG to PH. 05:14:55 <harish> but i could be wrong. 05:15:00 <azneita> one-way flight? 05:15:21 <harish> would be good to put some links - i suspect those are the budget carriers who bring you to clark 05:15:35 <harish> again, i could be wrong 05:15:41 <azneita> will do that harish 05:15:49 <harish> do update the flight costs. 05:15:50 <harish> thanks. 05:15:51 <azneita> thanks for pointing it out 05:15:59 <born2linux> these are naia rates 05:16:14 <harish> born2linux, airline? 05:16:17 <born2linux> we don't want to fetch attendees from clark, too long a drive 05:16:30 <harish> not to belabour the point, we can get the wiki clarified. 05:17:10 <harish> as for other contacts: have you approached the IOSN folks in PH? 05:17:24 <born2linux> we are partnering with cebu pacific for asia flights harish 05:17:49 <born2linux> yes harish 05:18:14 <born2linux> anything else? 05:18:14 <harish> born2linux, ok. do put that info on the wiki please. 05:18:26 <harish> IOSN contacts? 05:18:44 <dramsey> +1 05:18:50 <born2linux> we've been talking with eloy since august last year 05:18:58 <harish> ok. 05:19:07 <born2linux> azneita will update the wiki ;) 05:19:12 <harish> what about marcelo at the uop 05:19:28 <born2linux> alvin marcelo? 05:19:31 <harish> yes 05:19:44 <born2linux> eloy == marcelo 05:19:49 <born2linux> sorry 05:19:50 <harish> ah so :-). thanks. 05:19:54 <born2linux> used to suing his nickname 05:20:02 <born2linux> s/suing/using/ 05:20:18 * harish lol on freudian slip perhaps :-) 05:20:28 <born2linux> :) 05:21:13 <harish> are you looking at running the event as a barcamp or predefined speaker slots? 05:21:30 <harish> the wiki is silent on that 05:21:49 <harish> fudcon pune was predefined not barcamp-style 05:21:56 <harish> we can have a mix. 05:22:06 <azneita> past experience points to that 05:22:14 <magie> +1, we are are evaluating options 05:22:17 <harish> north american FUDcons are barcamp style 05:22:20 <azneita> predefined slots will work better for students 05:22:42 <azneita> barcamp works for contributors more 05:22:46 <magie> we're thinking of predefined speaking slots for the first 2 days 05:23:00 <harish> ok. 05:23:22 <harish> do put in a proposed schedule and number of tracks as well 05:23:30 <dramsey> +1 05:24:01 * azneita is taking notes of stuff to update, keep them coming 05:24:42 <harish> when you do put up an agenda, do put in (since some of this is predefined) some speakers that people would want to come listen to. 05:24:52 <kaio> Wanna meet up u guys so much. 05:25:10 <harish> helps in the promotion of it (once the decision is made) 05:25:44 <azneita> yep 05:27:02 <azneita> don't want to be a party pooper but we're over the time limit already 05:27:06 <aolsystems_> :) 05:27:06 <harish> so next few steps for all bids, i think, would be to get an agenda, get some speakers lined up. get a call for papers written up, get tentative location details confirmed as much as possible 05:27:15 <azneita> yes harish 05:27:41 <magie> +1, thanks everybody for listening to us ph folks 05:27:56 <dramsey> +1 great input and ideas indeed 05:27:57 <azneita> but we'll need to have a decision for that, i think 05:28:05 * bckurera_ it is a pleasure magie 05:28:19 <magie> thanks again 05:28:28 <dramsey> I strongly believe that the PH bid for FUDCon APAC consists of both a great support team & structure as well as experience for this FUDCon APAC bid. :) 05:29:34 <bckurera_> I strongly suggest to bring this conversation to ML (fudconplanning) so that others will contribute with their ideas. 05:29:38 <harish> key thing to note is that if you can get as much written into the bid document, even if you don't get to host it. that becomes the basis for the next attempt. 05:29:41 <bckurera_> shall we wind up then? 05:29:52 <bckurera_> sorry harish go on 05:29:57 <dramsey> +1 harish 05:29:59 <harish> :-) 05:30:01 <azneita> +1 05:30:06 <magie> +1 05:30:07 <born2linux> +1 05:30:09 <aolsystems_> +1 05:30:12 <LMartinez> +1 05:30:13 <bckurera_> +1 05:30:29 <kaio> +1 05:30:49 <harish> since we are all doing this for the first time (other than in Pune) we need to make the bid as solid as possible 05:31:23 <harish> pune had one advantage - there is a red hat office there. so rahul could lean on help. 05:31:48 <azneita> for ph, we have bluepoint :) 05:31:51 <harish> other than in Singapore and Malaysia, the other SEA countries don't have a Red Hat office for some help. 05:32:03 <aolsystems_> azneita: +1 05:32:11 <harish> yes, i know that bluepoint can help and i say thank you to them. 05:32:23 <aolsystems_> :) 05:32:30 * bckurera_ remembers Sri Lanka Redhat initiative past 05:33:00 <harish> just for transparency, how many bids are there today? 05:33:04 <harish> ph, my and cn? 05:33:14 <azneita> yep 05:33:23 <aolsystems_> yes 05:33:29 <bckurera_> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Beijing_2012 05:33:38 <bckurera_> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:APAC_2012_Bid_Malaysia 05:33:45 <bckurera_> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Philippines_2012 05:34:31 <LMartinez> #info Beijing, Malaysia and Philippines are bidding for FUDCon 2012. 05:34:46 <harish> and none of the CN folks are on this chat - other than kaio 05:35:30 <bckurera_> ideas? 05:35:57 * bckurera_ China FAms hardly can be found at the meetings 05:36:31 <harish> yes. that's a pity. we need to find another channel/time to have them on. 05:36:53 <kaio> Fedora zh met last night. 05:36:55 <bckurera_> harish +1 05:37:09 <born2linux> +1 05:37:27 <harish> kaio, what's your gut feel on CN's bid? 05:37:44 <LMartinez> Agreed, Timezones are difficult to deal with. 05:38:13 <harish> CN, SG, PH, MY are all in the same time zone :-) 05:38:37 <LMartinez> haha xD 05:38:44 <kaio> Do u have a firm date? 05:39:01 <harish> kaio, for fudcon? 05:39:09 <kaio> If I can get my leave sorted, it helps. 05:39:14 <kaio> Yes fudcon. 05:39:29 <kaio> My batt is 10% draining. 05:39:40 <harish> it is upto the bidding process and i think jared did indicate a slot for APAC 05:40:22 <harish> bckurera_, perhaps we can take the rest of this bid discussion to the ml 05:40:28 <harish> and close this meeting 05:40:32 <dramsey> +1 05:40:39 <dramsey> I appreciate all input 05:40:41 <bckurera_> strongly agree with harish 05:40:43 <born2linux> on a parting note, ph will support cn and my if they get to host fudcon 05:40:45 <azneita> me too 05:40:52 <born2linux> +1 05:41:07 <magie> +1 05:41:11 <bckurera_> thanks all ideas 05:41:15 <kaio> Everyone in cn just like me - they have to prepare leave, before ans the possibilities. 05:41:19 <azneita> you guys can also hit me on IRC for any ideas 05:41:25 <dramsey> Thank you all for attending and bckurera for chairing 05:41:30 <harish> +2 05:41:46 <bckurera_> shall we conclude the meeting if there is no nay concern left then? 05:41:47 <kaio> Kk 05:41:58 <bckurera_> who bring this to ML 05:42:07 <bckurera_> please assign an action item 05:42:10 <harish> those who are bidding 05:42:35 <azneita> ok 05:42:35 <bckurera_> azneita kio KageSenshi please bring this to ML, fudconplanning 05:42:37 <bckurera_> agree? 05:42:43 <kaio> Gtg my phone is sleeping. 05:42:43 <azneita> agreed 05:42:53 <bckurera_> thanks 05:42:57 <bckurera_> then we are closing the meeting 05:43:07 <bckurera_> I ll update the wikis 05:43:07 <kaio> Thx guys. 05:43:22 <bckurera_> #ink https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-02-18 05:43:22 <magie> thanks everyone :) 05:43:30 <bckurera_> placeholder for next meeting agenda 05:43:41 <bckurera_> thanks for everyone who participated actively 05:43:53 <bckurera_> I can see the APAC spirit please keep it going 05:43:56 <bckurera_> thanks 05:43:57 <bckurera_> 5 05:43:58 <bckurera_> 4 05:43:58 <bckurera_> 3 05:44:00 <bckurera_> 2 05:44:01 <bckurera_> 1 05:44:11 <tatica> booooom! 05:44:11 <bckurera_> thanks again 05:44:11 <bckurera_> 0.5 05:44:14 <bckurera_> #endmeeting