20:01:45 <suehle> #startmeeting
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20:01:51 <suehle> #meeting name Fedora marketing team
20:01:55 <suehle> #topic roll call
20:02:56 <jwb> #meetingname Fedora marketing team
20:02:56 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_marketing_team'
20:02:57 <AnnaE> Anna's here
20:03:09 * zoglesby is here
20:03:16 <jwb> #meetingtopic Fedora Marketing Team meeting
20:03:36 * suehle waves around
20:03:45 <suehle> #meetingname Fedora marketing team
20:03:45 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_marketing_team'
20:03:52 <suehle> #chair jwb
20:03:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: jwb suehle
20:03:57 <suehle> who seems to be better at this today :D
20:04:05 <jwb> #meetingtopic Fedora Marketing Team meeting
20:04:15 <jwb> there you go :)
20:04:40 <suehle> Holiday hangover is lasting a bit long this year... :)
20:04:48 <suehle> #topic Fedora Magazine
20:04:49 * jwb goes back to paying attention to the go-nogo meeting
20:05:11 <suehle> Good news, everyone! </farnsworth>
20:05:26 <suehle> The guy who owns fedoramagazine.com is willing to participate and to redirect it to fedoramagazine.org.
20:05:32 <AnnaE> yayy
20:06:36 <zoglesby> suehle: is he going to retain ownership of the domain?
20:07:11 <suehle> zoglesby, I believe so, at least until it's going to expire, and then maybe we can ask aobut taking over. but he's a Fedora person and not at all objectionable about it.
20:07:30 <suehle> Based on the WP instance being there, I suspect he bought it with the idea in mind of doing just this and just never got it off the ground.
20:09:17 <zoglesby> suehle: cool
20:09:40 <suehle> #topic Release notes
20:10:09 <suehle> zoglesby and I have worked on these a bit, and there's still room if anyone wants to help: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F18_release_announcement
20:10:21 <rbergeron> hooray release notes and announcement
20:10:23 <suehle> (zoglesby, I'm not shirking what I said I'd do this morning, just opening it to more love. :-))
20:10:36 <zoglesby> it needs LOTS of work
20:10:40 <suehle> Dang. Release announcement, not notes.
20:10:43 * rbergeron notes the readiness meeting is starting as well for those playing along at home (and it's official that we are slipping a week)
20:10:54 * suehle shouldn't try to talk to zodbot anymore today
20:10:56 <zoglesby> rbergeron: busy day...
20:11:03 <suehle> rbergeron, thx. I've been trying to have half an eye on that tab
20:11:24 <suehle> zoglesby, any specific thoughts on what it needs?
20:12:15 <zoglesby> suehle: no, it just seems very empty when you compare it to the F17 announcement
20:12:38 <suehle> And obviously parts where it says things like "fill this in." :)
20:12:39 <zoglesby> I am not worried about the feature highlights as much as the opener
20:12:54 * rbergeron will add some to the feature list
20:12:56 <suehle> Is there a list of deprecated features?
20:13:03 <rbergeron> languages to developer stuff
20:13:11 <rbergeron> might highlight that new user interface for installation
20:13:21 <rbergeron> ;)
20:13:23 <suehle> I think we should leave in "Change this witty comment <-- Change "
20:13:26 <zoglesby> rbergeron: thanks!
20:13:33 <rbergeron> LOL
20:13:38 <zoglesby> suehle: +1
20:15:11 * suehle tries to think of what else we need to talk about today... no graphite6 to talk about new brochures
20:16:48 <suehle> the cheater way...
20:16:50 * rbergeron will note one other bit for the announcement - i have usually converted it into a more ascii-friendly format for sending out to whoever is sending it out
20:16:51 <suehle> #topic open floor
20:17:05 <suehle> #action make ascii-friendly version of release announcement
20:17:08 <rbergeron> ie: not in wiki format or whatever - cut and paste doesn't always work there
20:17:15 <suehle> rbergeron, where all do we need to send it?
20:17:36 <rbergeron> well, alpha/beta i have done it with dennis gilmore
20:17:41 <rbergeron> final the FPL sends it out
20:17:43 <zoglesby> suehle: Final One Page Release Notes need done as well
20:17:58 <suehle> zoglesby, got the link handy?
20:17:58 <rbergeron> so i can do it - maybe I can do an SOP on how it gets done
20:18:02 <suehle> or not even that far yet?
20:18:05 <zoglesby> http://jreznik.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-18/f-18-marketing-tasks.html
20:18:06 <rbergeron> it's pretty brainless though it's also kind of non-standard yet
20:18:08 <suehle> rbergeron, that sounds handy :)
20:18:35 <rbergeron> zoglesby: they haven't been done in ... many releases ;) it's pretty NTH at this point - though i'd be delighted to see it if someone did hack it out.
20:18:44 * rbergeron knows there is an SOP on that, at least she thought there was
20:18:51 <zoglesby> rbergeron: I see that now, I was just looking for a old copy...
20:19:19 <suehle> #topic social media
20:19:39 <suehle> We haven't talked about the social media stuff since the end of November, but I think we finally tracked down all the mystery account owners (yay)
20:19:41 <zoglesby> last one page release notes where for F15
20:20:42 <suehle> And I think we'd more or less agreed that HootSuite, though not open, was our best option. rbergeron, do we need to go to the board, or should we just do it, or what?
20:21:57 <rbergeron> for hootsuite? we were using it anyway. just not paid iirc
20:22:10 * rbergeron assumes you talked to jnalley about it?
20:22:13 <suehle> Well, if we're going to have more than one person be able to post from an account, it has to be paid.
20:22:57 <suehle> I know I talked to jnalley about something when you suggested it and he agreed, and this seems like what it was, but... November.
20:23:08 <rbergeron> right. or share the password, which sucks.
20:23:37 <suehle> jnalley was actually in the meeting that day
20:24:36 <rbergeron> suehle: maybe it would be useful to bring up on the marketing mailing list just to confirm that everyone is kosher with using hootsuite - it's not so much the payment for it as the non-freeness, so to speak
20:24:58 <rbergeron> so that there is a nice track record of decisionmaking beyond "you and me and a convo with jnalley a while back" - something omre definitive
20:25:06 <rbergeron> ie: this is the thread where we are deciding this is kosher unless someone says otherwise :)
20:25:09 <suehle> #link http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-11-29/fedora_marketing.2012-11-29-20.00.log.html
20:25:18 <suehle> ^^^minutes from the main discussion about it
20:25:21 <suehle> rbergeron, will do
20:25:25 <suehle> maybe already did...
20:25:28 * suehle goes to find that thread
20:25:40 <suehle> I need a memory upgrade
20:25:43 <rbergeron> i just want to make sure it's not one of those "but it was in a log in a meeting and i don't read all the logs" type things where poeple get .... ONGRY
20:25:44 <suehle> Like in my head
20:25:47 <rbergeron> suehle: me too
20:25:50 <rbergeron> suehle: who are you again?
20:25:55 <rbergeron> legofootlady?
20:26:32 <suehle> rbergeron, this spot guy has been calling me Ducky Momo, so I assume that's my name.
20:26:43 * jbrooks is wicked late, reading log now
20:26:47 <spot> suehle: DUCKY!
20:26:54 <rbergeron> other stuff: we have the fudcon coming up, i dion't know what marketing thingies are planned for that. activities or hackfesty things or etc.
20:27:28 <suehle> Searching my email for "social media" was sooooo helpful
20:28:04 <rbergeron> microblog ?
20:28:06 <suehle> I'd certainly be up for it if there are enough marketingy people
20:28:39 <suehle> I'm going to search actual zimbra for "hootsuite" instead of thunderbird, which has a heart attack if I ask it to search message bodies.
20:29:21 <suehle> OK, there was the thread with the list of people currently working on social media that discussed hootsuite, but maybe not one from the whole marketing team other than the email with that day's minutes
20:31:20 <suehle> #action suehle to start a hootsuite discussion on mktg list
20:31:27 <suehle> #topic actual open floor
20:31:30 <suehle> anything elses?
20:33:15 <rbergeron> it's electric!
20:33:21 <rbergeron> boogiewoogiewoogie
20:33:32 * suehle dances
20:33:43 <rbergeron> i have nothing else.
20:34:04 <suehle> rbergeron, I'm going to wander over to #fudcon-planning now and say things out loud. Feel free to answer my disembodied voice. :)
20:34:06 <suehle> #endmeeting