04:00:22 #startmeeting APAC 2015-03-28 04:00:22 Meeting started Sat Mar 28 04:00:22 2015 UTC. The chair is tuanta_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 04:00:22 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 04:00:29 #topic Roll call 04:00:36 .fas tuanta 04:00:38 tuanta_: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' 04:01:01 .hellomynameis pjp 04:01:03 pjp: pjp 'None' 04:01:17 Hello tuanta_ ! :) 04:01:30 hi pjp 04:02:21 pjp, any topics to discuss today? 04:02:30 tuanta_: Sure, I've two 04:02:54 nice, please say them out 04:03:10 tuanta_: One is about announcing next FUDCon venue at the upcoming FUDCon in Pune -> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2015-March/023307.html 04:04:24 #info Topic: Planning for the next FUDCon (after Pune) 04:04:30 tuanta_: It'll be great to start this practice. 04:05:05 .fas arifiauo 04:05:06 arifiauo: arifiauo 'Arif Tri Waluyo' 04:05:26 tuanta_: We would need to announce the bids for the next(after Pune) one now, 04:05:46 arifiauo: Hello! 04:05:49 yes, I understood 04:06:02 any thing else for topic? 04:06:08 hi, everyone 04:06:09 for today 04:06:30 .hellomynameis kumarpraveen 04:06:31 praveenkumar: kumarpraveen 'None' 04:06:51 tuanta_: Yes, second topic is about inviting one ambassador from APAC countries to Pune for the panel discussion -> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2015-March/023306.html 04:06:55 arifiauo, praveenkumar: any topics to discuss today? 04:07:07 ok, pjp 04:07:29 #info Topic: Inviting one ambassador from APAC countries to Pune for the panel discussion 04:07:30 Hi all 04:07:35 hi rtnpro 04:07:35 tuanta_: I think you've already filed a ticket for that. We need get other ambassadors to do the same. 04:07:41 .hellomynameis rtnpro 04:07:42 rtnpro: rtnpro 'Ratnadeep Debnath' 04:07:44 praveenkumar: rtnpro Hi! 04:08:03 tuanta_: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/179 ( I already spoke with Izhar during FOSSAsia and I think he will do it shortly) 04:08:09 ok, lets start then we will see if any more topics come up 04:08:10 .hellomynameis alick 04:08:11 alick: alick 'Zhao Tao' 04:08:20 .me listening 04:08:40 alick, rtnpro: any topics to discuss today? 04:09:11 ok, lets start today meeting 04:09:26 #topic Planning for the next FUDCon (after Pune) 04:09:38 #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2015-March/023307.html 04:09:43 tuanta_, nothing special 04:10:11 the idea is to make announce for the FUDCon APAC 2016 in Pune 04:10:44 And continue the practice thereon in future, 04:11:03 so we will have about 3 months from now to make it happen 04:11:22 Right, 04:11:37 1. call for bidding; 2. review/decide 04:11:56 we need to send out the call asap 04:12:08 alick: +1 04:12:26 alick, it is FPL's responsibility unless we can change it 04:12:44 tuanta_: we need to talk t FPL about it asap, 04:12:57 good news: for Pune FUDCon, we changed it after waiting FPL for a long time :) 04:13:14 but it is just an exception, I think 04:13:15 Yes, :) 04:13:44 we need to refine it, so I think we need to contact to Board and FPL soon to see if it is possible 04:14:14 tuanta_: board = the new council? 04:14:17 board is already converted to Council? 04:14:23 ah, yes. Thank pjp 04:15:16 #action tuanta_ to raise a proposal to change FUDCon bidding process to FPL and Council 04:16:44 tuanta_: that would be on a council's list or there is another one? 04:16:57 after the process is refine (or even it is not changed at all), call for bidding will be sent out 04:17:11 I am not sure. Maybe mailing list or Trac 04:17:33 I will figure it out. Any idea? 04:17:54 tuanta_: I think they generally use Trac 04:17:59 I think siddhesh brought the talk up on ambassadors list 04:18:11 tuanta_: I saw one ticket for changing FESCo election process like that, 04:18:23 alick: Yes, 04:18:32 tuanta_: you can attach the link of our previous discussion when contacting FPL and council 04:19:00 I will start on mailing list, then open a ticket if they need 04:19:23 tuanta_: +1, sounds okay, 04:19:39 ok, next topic then? 04:19:50 Yes, 04:19:59 #topic Inviting one ambassador from APAC countries to Pune for the panel discussion 04:20:23 #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2015-March/023306.html 04:20:39 pjp, your turn 04:20:49 tuanta_: Thank you. 04:22:00 At FUDCon Pune this year in June, we plan to host a APAC ambassadors panel to discus about various issues around improving Fedora contributions across APAC, and also interaction between these contributors. 04:23:09 Towards that, to understand such issues pertaining to all countries wherein we have Fedora contributors, we need someone who could speak for the local community, 04:23:45 Thus the idea to invite one ambassador from each APAC country wherein we have Fedora contributors and/or users. 04:24:18 +1 pjp 04:24:23 We need to communicate with these ambassadors and request them to file tickets for FUDCon in Pune. 04:25:18 sounds good 04:25:24 IIRC We already communicated this on Ambassador ML but they have to file tickets for FUDCon. 04:25:31 pjp, I think we should be more active this way: 04:25:42 tuanta_: Yes, that's the idea. 04:26:06 praveenkumar: Yes, it's the same link for this topic. 04:26:17 ah, right 04:26:18 look into filed tickets to see if there are any missing countries; then try to contact to one of active ambassadors there 04:26:43 tuanta_: currently I don't think there are enough, 04:27:12 First, we need to know all the ambassadors from APAC region, could we find such a list? 04:27:39 there is one on the wiki. 04:27:43 pjp, we have that list. But it is not necessary in this case. 04:27:51 but not everyone listed there is active. 04:28:02 alick: I see, 04:28:28 I meant: we have a list of active countries (where Fedora community there have events and activities) 04:28:29 Even if they are not active, I think it'll help to involve them which could in turn start some activity, 04:28:40 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService/Verification#APAC_.28163.29 04:28:56 we can match that list to a sub-list on fudcon-planning Trac to see if there are any missing countries 04:29:02 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassadors_Asia_Pacific_%28FAMAPAC%29 04:29:35 e.g. we can see some (maybe): Malaysia, Myanmar, etc. 04:29:45 * pjp clicks 04:30:06 .fas corey84 04:30:07 Corey84: corey84 'Corey84' 04:30:17 (late and passively listening) 04:30:19 tuanta_: rtnpro Great! 04:30:31 #chair praveenkumar pjp rtnpro Corey84 alick 04:30:32 Current chairs: Corey84 alick pjp praveenkumar rtnpro tuanta_ 04:30:32 I'll go through it and send out an email to them. 04:30:41 tuanta_: ^^ 04:31:01 sorry for that late setting :) 04:31:31 #action pjp to send out an invite to APAC ambassadors for FUDCon Pune. 04:31:39 great, pjp. You can match with the list on FAD Phnom Penh 04:32:05 tuanta_: Yes, I'll do, that's a good idea. 04:32:06 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:PhnomPenh_2014 04:32:11 tuanta_: Thanks much! 04:33:32 I just thought: if we send out to the mailing list, we will not be sure that someone will respond 04:33:42 it is better to invite them directly, in person 04:33:51 tuanta_: Right, +1 04:34:02 +1 04:34:15 tuanta_: agreed +1 04:34:20 we can open for them to "forward" that invitation to other active person in their countries 04:34:32 any more ideas to get the right list to send invitations? 04:34:58 I think the PhnomPenh one to start with is good. 04:35:25 I'll also go through the ambassadors list to see if we missed any community, 04:35:35 this would be wider: 04:35:37 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:PhnomPenh_2014/shirts 04:36:01 assume that people who want to get T-shirts are active ones :) 04:36:12 :) 04:36:13 tuanta_: :) 04:36:14 pjp, IIRC, there's some process running to drop inactive ambassadors from the list 04:36:27 currently, I see that the list is very old 04:36:31 rtnpro: Yes, 04:36:45 yes, rtnpro. It is currently covering by FAmSCo 04:37:19 seems it is delayed by FAmSCo -> FOSCo change? 04:37:21 we are contacting to each of inactive one to confirm 04:37:29 no delay, alick 04:37:34 oh i see 04:37:35 we are still in charge 04:37:45 +1 04:38:25 anything else in this topic? 04:38:36 Nope, I guess. 04:38:43 nothing from my side. 04:38:51 #topic Tickets 04:39:01 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/report/9 04:39:12 * pjp clicks 04:39:13 I see no new/urgent ticket for today 04:39:26 go ahead, pjp 04:39:27 nothing new here. 04:40:04 can we update the old ticket and see if it can be closed? 04:40:28 tuanta_, I had filed the bills for F21 release party, Bangalore 04:40:34 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/174#no3 04:40:44 how to take it forward from there? 04:41:03 I think we all should go through the list and allocate our priority in the ticket. 04:41:11 yes, it has been already approved 04:41:29 pjp, which list? 04:41:33 for #163 04:41:35 rtnpro: add the link to your event report 04:41:58 +1 alick. And note that total actual expense as well 04:42:03 rtnpro: then add the keyword 'ready-for-reimbursement' and change the ticket owner to izhar 04:42:11 ok 04:42:51 rtnpro: and just wait for money back :D 04:42:58 :) 04:43:05 ah, make sense. sorry, pjp 04:43:32 praveenkumar: rtnpro alick could we all go through the events list this week-end and add our comments on #163? 04:43:36 you meant the events list. It is fixed now. 04:43:40 tuanta_: has already done it. 04:43:52 tuanta_: fixed? 04:43:56 now we are wating for OSAS to allocate the real budget 04:44:21 then we will be back to that list to "allocate" to each of that events 04:44:23 tuanta_: I see, so not comments needed? 04:44:37 yes, pjp. I will remove the keyword 04:45:02 i think the ticket can be closed now. 04:45:03 now, all we can do is waiting 04:45:04 tuanta_: okay 04:45:22 OSAS is usually late :( 04:45:25 :) 04:45:43 FY2016 has been started for almost a month 04:46:00 :) 04:46:31 a good news is if your event is in #1 priority, you can ask for fund normally 04:46:52 Right, 04:47:14 for others, we can not assure. We need to know our total budget allocated firstly 04:47:25 does it make sense? 04:47:37 tuanta_: Yes, 04:47:43 yep 04:47:43 Guys, I need to leave for now to reach some place, I'll catch-up with you all on the list and channel, sorry about leaving now. :) 04:47:56 pjp: carry on :) 04:47:57 any thing else for today? 04:48:03 #topic Open floor 04:48:05 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/167 04:48:26 this is another open ticket with meeting keyword 04:48:32 issue has bene solved out for PayPal 04:48:48 I am not sure if we can discuss anything on that today 04:48:48 yes, it can be closed IMO 04:48:54 yes, it's already resolved 04:49:13 but, yes, you are right, alick. We need to bring it up again to get it solved totally 04:49:48 no, praveenkumar. the issue is still there at countries where PayPal does not support 04:49:58 e.g. Cambodia 04:50:18 tuanta_: i see your point. any progress on this subissue? 04:50:22 tuanta_: ah, right. 04:50:23 * rtnpro needs to discuss something in open floor 04:50:35 they will need a way to get reimbursement smoothly 04:50:54 yes, we are in Open floor now, rtnpro :) 04:51:19 we have more 9 minutes from now on 04:51:24 Isn't it too late for a F21 release party? 04:52:01 rtnpro, it is too late, rtnpro. Unless you have planned it for a while 04:52:18 F21 is not a hot topic now :) 04:52:20 Dominic from Red Hat India wants to conduct a Fedora event in Kerala 04:52:31 good, rtnpro 04:52:47 it could be anything, other than RP 04:52:48 so, he wanted to conduct a Fedora 21 release part 04:52:51 party* 04:53:30 I had suggested him to start doing small meetups and get the momentum built up for F22 release 04:53:37 why insist release party? It can be a meetup... 04:53:45 that's what 04:53:58 rtnpro: yes I think that's right step which you suggested 04:54:21 cool, then :) 04:54:34 I just need to ascertain what I did was correct 04:54:43 s/need/needed 04:55:04 another thing 04:55:20 why don't we have a meetup.com page? 04:55:50 meetup.com has become THE PLACE to publicize about meetups these days 04:56:05 rtnpro, I am not sure we need it 04:56:08 but it is an idea 04:56:19 I do not say to give up on Fedora's way of tracking and managing events 04:56:19 please bring it up to mailing list 04:56:27 but, it could be an addon 04:56:33 ok 04:56:39 it is related to: Marketing, Legal, Infra, etc. 04:58:02 EOL from me 04:58:06 we have 3 more minutes. if nothing brings up now, I will close the meeting 04:58:17 nothing from my side 04:58:37 ok, thanks everyone to attend today meeting 04:58:41 see you then :) 04:58:44 thanks tuanta_ 04:58:48 #endmeeting