11:33:06 <pjp_> #startmeeting APAC Ambassador's bi-weekly meeting 02 Nov 2017 11:33:06 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Nov 2 11:33:06 2017 UTC. The chair is pjp_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 11:33:06 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 11:33:06 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'apac_ambassador's_bi-weekly_meeting_02_nov_2017' 11:33:35 <pjp_> #meetingname apac 11:33:35 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'apac' 11:33:40 <pjp_> #topic Roll Call 11:33:43 <pjp_> .hello 11:33:43 <zodbot> pjp_: (hello <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "hellomynameis $1". 11:33:55 <pjp_> .hello pjp 11:33:56 <zodbot> pjp_: pjp 'None' <pj.pandit@yahoo.co.in> 11:34:51 <Amita> .hello amsharma 11:34:52 <zodbot> Amita: amsharma 'Amita Sharma' <amsharma@redhat.com> 11:37:29 <pjp_> Amita: Just two of us? 11:37:49 <Amita> pjp_, let's ping people who want to join 11:38:22 <Amita> paragan, sankarshan skamath sumantrom[m] ? 11:38:30 <skamath> .hello2 11:38:31 <zodbot> skamath: skamath 'Sachin S Kamath ' <sskamath96@gmail.com> 11:38:43 <skamath> Thanks for the ping Amita :) 11:38:52 <Amita> yw skamath :) 11:39:10 * skamath waves to pjp_ 11:39:39 <Amita> pravins, may also want to join 11:39:41 <pjp_> skamath: Hi 11:39:49 <pravins> hi :) 11:40:02 <skamath> Amita should get the pingmaster badge :p 11:40:07 <skamath> Hi pravins o/ 11:40:18 <Amita> skamath, :) 11:40:19 <pjp_> :) 11:40:31 <pravins> hi skamath :) 11:40:45 <Amita> pjp_, so 4 of us now, we are good to start 11:40:48 <pjp_> #Topic Swags request -> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-apac/issue/278 11:40:53 <pjp_> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-apac/issue/278 11:41:18 <pjp_> Going through the comments, I see we need more swags to distribute at events, 11:41:50 <pjp_> I'm okay with stickers/pens/pins etc. T-shirts doesn't sound reasonable 11:41:54 <skamath> Production and logistics is something we should discuss IMO 11:42:30 <skamath> We will also need banners, table spreads etc. I don't think we have it in India. 11:42:46 <pravins> pjp_: agree. T-shirt is very specific request and does not comes into common site swags. 11:43:32 <pjp_> skamath: We did produce them in the past, pravins Amita Could you please check in Pune office? 11:43:36 <Amita> I am +1 to produce the at one central location 11:43:54 <Amita> pjp_, check with whom? 11:44:24 <pjp_> Amita: Maybe Praveen/Gajendra/Rupali someone should know 11:44:46 <pjp_> pravins: ^^ 11:45:12 <Amita> pjp_, Praveen provided few DVDs for FWD 11:45:21 <pravins> yeah, always make sense to product at one place. 11:45:30 <pravins> economy of scale :) 11:45:33 <pjp_> Yep 11:45:58 <pjp_> #action Amita/pravins to check about banners in Pune office 11:46:41 <pravins> sure. 11:46:42 <pjp_> I'm okay to produce stickers/badges/pens and distribute as usual. 11:47:00 <skamath> pjp_, What happened to the Pycon stall? 11:47:09 <skamath> No presence this year? 11:47:35 <pjp_> skamath: It's confirmed, we have booth space allotted this Sat 4'th Nov 2017 13:00 - 17:00 hrs. 11:47:41 <skamath> Sweet :D 11:47:47 <skamath> pjp++ 11:48:35 <Amita> who all are going there for booth duty? 11:49:22 <pjp_> Amita: I'm going, also folks coming from Pune and other Fedora contributors can be there. 11:49:43 <Amita> pjp_, ok 11:50:12 <Amita> what is the plan, are we giving away DVDs 11:50:23 <Amita> badges to signup FAS 11:50:41 <skamath> It is not a good idea 11:50:45 <pjp_> Amita: Yes, we have bunch of F26 DVDs and stickers 11:50:58 <skamath> Never force people to signup for anything in exchange of swag 11:51:05 * sumantrom[m] is here 11:51:14 <pjp_> skamath: No, we don't ask to signup 11:51:14 <skamath> sumantrom[m], o/ 11:51:17 <Amita> skamath, It has been done in FOSDEM last year 11:51:21 <pjp_> sumantrom[m]: Hi 11:51:31 <Amita> so I am asking 11:51:38 <skamath> Amita, I know. And there was a discussion about it somewhere on the ML about that. 11:51:56 <skamath> I think it was something like -> Hey, signup for a FAS account and get a free Fedora tee. 11:52:05 <Amita> skamath, yes, and there are suggestions to do different things 11:52:11 <pjp_> So for ticket#278, we are okay to produce stickers/badges/pens as swag, no for T-shirts and banners for now. 11:52:14 <skamath> _1 11:52:17 <skamath> * +1 11:52:23 <pjp_> I think we should move to next ticket #279 11:52:44 <pjp_> #topic F27 release party -> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-apac/issue/279 11:52:46 <pjp_> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-apac/issue/279 11:53:07 <skamath> +1 Bangalore has always been an active spot for contributors 11:53:18 <sumantrom> we have one happening in BLR 11:53:38 <sumantrom> skamath, o/ has plans for RP in his region too :) 11:53:39 <skamath> sumantrom, Yep #279 is the topic \o/ 11:53:44 <pjp_> sumantrom: stickers/buttons are okay, t-shirts would be expensive 11:53:58 <skamath> If the release doesn't slip, I can hold one. 11:54:26 <sumantrom> pjp_, I would also like to have banner. Its required to have *one* atleast in India. 11:54:46 <pjp_> sumantrom: We should have one/two in RH pune office, 11:54:55 <pravins> We are going to have one at Pune. This will be part of FAD i18n 11:54:58 <pjp_> Unless they are torn or something 11:55:07 <pravins> so only within members of FAD. 11:55:18 <skamath> I don't think banners are very expensive. 11:55:22 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_I18N_2017 11:55:46 <pjp_> pravins: Please open a ticket for budget 11:55:48 <pravins> i hope, FAD permits us time to do Fedora release celebration :) 11:56:05 <pravins> pjp_: yeah, presently working on preparing schedule 11:56:13 <pjp_> OKay 11:56:13 <skamath> A FAD after very long :D 11:56:17 <skamath> pravins++ 11:56:17 <zodbot> skamath: Karma for pravins changed to 2 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 11:56:24 <sumantrom> pravins, sounds good :D 11:56:26 <pravins> once that done and release party fixed will do that. But mostly not required any budget 11:56:30 <sumantrom> pravins++ 11:56:30 <zodbot> sumantrom: Karma for pravins changed to 3 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 11:56:34 <pravins> skamath: indeed :) 11:56:46 <pjp_> sumantrom: Let's first confirm about banners, before producing them, 11:57:07 <pjp_> For now, I'm okay with $100/- for release party, 11:57:31 <pjp_> All please update ticket #279 with your votes(+1/-1) 11:58:08 <sumantrom> I think we need track the existing ones , I will draft an email to @india list asking who has one and can they gives us the same, if no reply comes , we might need to produce one. thoughts ? 11:58:21 <skamath> +1 11:58:48 <pjp_> sumantrom: Amita and pravins are on to it 11:58:51 <pjp_> too 11:59:16 <sankarshan> (sorry. missed the times. reading backscroll) 12:00:06 <sumantrom> thats great pjp_ , we can just have their thoughts on it in the mailing list too .. say what Amita & pravins ? 12:00:17 * pravins leaving, will see if can login back soon. 12:00:33 <pravins> thanks all. 12:00:46 <Amita> sumantrom, thoughts for? 12:01:09 <sumantrom> I think we need track the existing ones , I will draft an email to @india list asking who has one and can they gives us the same, if no reply comes , we might need to produce one. thoughts ? 12:01:27 <Amita> yes, obviously 12:02:10 <pjp_> I think we can move on to next topic, < 30 mins to go 12:02:25 <pjp_> Amita: You've some to discuss, right? 12:03:17 <Amita> and I am also not going to each and everyone's desk to ask :P (time is the issue) I will also send mail to people which pjp_ mentioned 12:03:36 <Amita> pjp_, I wanted to talk about release party at Pune 12:03:57 <Amita> and want to know if someone in Pune wants to collaborate with me for that 12:04:05 <pjp_> Amita: Sure, pravins just mentioned about one during FAD above 12:04:18 <pjp_> <pravins> i hope, FAD permits us time to do Fedora release celebration :) 12:04:20 <Amita> pjp_, yeah I had discussion with him 12:04:37 <Amita> yes, I know (I am just replying to you for <pjp_> Amita: You've some to discuss, right?) 12:04:39 <Amita> :) 12:04:46 <pjp_> Okay, 12:05:18 <Amita> we may need little budget, but that part I have not discussed yet with pravins 12:05:27 <pjp_> Amita: Please file a ticket if there is budget requirement, I've asked PravinS too 12:05:36 <Amita> pjp_, Sure 12:05:37 <skamath> Amita, I think you can go ahead and open a ticket about this after discussing with Pravin on Pagure 12:05:39 <skamath> Ah 12:05:49 <skamath> pjp was faster :p 12:05:56 <pjp_> :) 12:06:12 <pjp_> Amita: You had another topic too? 12:06:21 <skamath> Mindshare I guess. 12:06:25 <pjp_> Yes 12:06:36 <Amita> pjp_, also I would like to know if people in India know about mindshare 12:06:47 <pjp_> I don't 12:06:52 <Amita> and how it will impact events in future 12:07:00 <Amita> sumantrom, do you have some idea 12:07:13 <Amita> as this is the new initiative in Fedora 12:07:33 <sumantrom> Amita, yesterdays meeting we discussed. 12:07:48 <sumantrom> there we will be an election 12:08:16 <Amita> sumantrom, ok, do you know how it will impact 12:08:44 <Amita> specifically the procedural changes in organizing events? 12:08:52 <Amita> or marketing - if any? 12:09:00 <pjp_> I saw an email about elections I think 12:09:38 <sumantrom> So FOSCO will be in mostly with each group having one representative 12:09:48 * sumantrom searches for the wiki link 12:10:30 <pjp_> #topic Fedora Mindshare 12:10:37 <sumantrom> ttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mindshare/Representatives 12:10:43 <sankarshan> The split of responsibilities between Mindshare and FAmSCo are well described on Mindshare page. However, this is a new group and set of responsibiltieis forming. So, at this point things may be still in fluid state 12:10:43 <Amita> thanks suanand 12:10:48 <sumantrom> Dear Ambassadors, 12:10:48 <sumantrom> during our FAmSCo meeting we agreed to set up a starting procedure in order to collect nominations for the Mindshare Comittee. 12:10:49 <sumantrom> As you might know, Mindshare will have two dedicated seats for Ambassadors; these are not elected but just get appointed by the team, means by the Ambassadors. As the Ambassadors group is a rather big group and we have people all around the world and in different time zones, we have created a page where to collect nominations [1]. 12:10:49 <sumantrom> Each Region can then discuss the nominations and agree on one or two candidates. Once each region has expressed its preferences, the final discussion could be done directly in the list or in a specific ticket on pagure. FAmSCo (same as FAmA) would indeed avoid to go through a votation, we should rather discuss and come to a common decision rather than vote without trying to choose our most suitable representatives. 12:10:51 <pjp_> Amita: sumantrom What's it about? 12:10:57 * pjp_ reads... 12:11:32 <Amita> so let's nominate one from India 12:12:04 <Amita> as we are a big region and we have many ambassdors 12:12:21 <pjp_> Amita: I'd suggest send an email to -india list, now sure how many folks know about it 12:12:23 <Amita> it will be good to have one person in mindshare so that we will be informed about it 12:12:50 * sumantrom concurs Amita 12:12:55 <sumantrom> *with 12:12:55 <pjp_> Amita: CC -apac list too 12:12:57 <Amita> pjp_, yes, sumantrom can do that 12:13:07 <pjp_> sumantrom: ^^ 12:13:09 <Amita> as he has better idea about it 12:13:15 <sankarshan> There's a set of questions for the candidates desiring to be in the Mindshare group, please look at that as well so as to have a depth in discussion around the topic. 12:13:51 <pjp_> #action Amita/Sumantrom to send email to -india/-apac lists about Fedora Mindshare nominations 12:13:54 <sumantrom> sankarshan, I will read it :) 12:14:09 <Amita> and how the voting will be? 12:14:26 <Amita> we can decide among ourselves whom we want to be from India 12:14:36 <Amita> and vote accordingly in the main voting 12:14:44 <sankarshan> If we have covered the topic of Mindshare, could we discuss the topic of how the communication plans for events in and around India are at this point? 12:15:16 <sumantrom> https://pagure.io/famsco/issue/440 Amita tracks the move :) 12:15:16 <pjp_> #topic communication plans for FOSS event in/around India 12:15:59 <pjp_> .. 15 mins to go .. 12:16:04 * sumantrom believes we have a strong community and the events we do needs to be in Community Blog , which is not happening due to people not *having* admin rights. 12:16:28 <sankarshan> I'd like to understand where the events are communicated and widely circulated 12:16:48 <sankarshan> And since I don't see much, are there impediments 12:16:58 <pjp_> I don't think they are, 12:17:16 <Amita> Community Blog is the place 12:17:18 <sumantrom> skamath, now has the rights and will be able to help but more the merrier, so I think , we should have another one person from India/APAC 12:17:25 <sankarshan> What is the workflow around publishing reports of events/announcements of upcoming events to the Community Blog? 12:17:25 <Amita> where most of the events are being communicated 12:17:30 <Amita> and also published 12:17:58 <sankarshan> These release parties that we discussed above, have these been published on the blog as well? The announcements ... 12:18:05 <Amita> sankarshan, it was usually (pinging) admins 12:18:15 <sumantrom> sankarshan, ML for planning --> Wiki to have the event drafted --> Personal blog post event report --> winder audience reach , the commblog and fedora planet 12:18:32 <sankarshan> Where do announcements for upcoming events go? 12:18:50 <skamath> I will be able to review articles :) 12:18:58 <skamath> I can help with the CommBlog as much as I can 12:19:11 <sumantrom> the mailing list and community blog , like RP announcement is pending for a month 12:19:25 <sankarshan> As in pending on moderation? 12:19:37 <skamath> If there is something you need me to look into, I can do it. 12:19:43 <skamath> sumantrom, PM me after the meeting? 12:19:49 <sumantrom> yes requires someone to just publish it , its peer-reviewed by jonatoni 12:19:55 <sumantrom> skamath, sure :) 12:21:19 <sankarshan> ok. i don't have anything additional to ask. i guess we are sorted 12:21:54 <pjp_> Cool! 12:22:01 * sumantrom believes that we should have people from IN who can publish on community blog 12:22:07 <pjp_> #topic Open floor 12:22:39 <sumantrom> pjp who and when can help responsible for swags pins/pens/stickers .... 12:22:40 <sumantrom> ? 12:22:52 <pjp_> sumantrom: ? 12:23:06 <pjp_> sumantrom: I'm okay to produce them here and distribute, 12:23:23 <Amita> I just want to let everyone know about https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/41 12:23:35 * pjp_ clicks 12:23:36 <sumantrom> great , by when can we expect the distribution to begin ? 12:23:51 <Amita> Outreachy Intern (diversity team is going to give $6,500 budget for this) 12:24:13 <Amita> if anyone wants to be a mentor, please submit application by 9th Nove 12:24:34 <sumantrom> Amita, will ping you once this is over :) 12:24:43 <sumantrom> this===meeting 12:24:45 <Amita> sumantrom, Sure 12:25:15 <Amita> for more info - https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/outreachy-2017-mentors-ideas/ 12:26:14 <sumantrom> pjp_, by when will the distribution begin ? 12:26:34 <pjp_> sumantrom: When do you need swag? 12:27:12 <sumantrom> I guess that ASAP, before RP will be great :) 12:28:04 <pjp_> Okay, I can try 12:28:10 <pjp_> 2 mins to go 12:28:36 <pjp_> Let's take further discussion on lists 12:28:47 <sumantrom> pjp_, 12:29:29 <pjp_> Thank you all for joining in. 12:29:32 <pjp_> Going..1 12:29:49 <pjp_> Going...2 12:30:02 <pjp_> #endmeeting