12:00:16 <asamalik> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board 12:00:16 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Jul 29 12:00:16 2020 UTC. 12:00:16 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 12:00:16 <zodbot> The chair is asamalik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 12:00:16 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 12:00:16 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine_editorial_board' 12:00:16 <asamalik> #meetingname magazine 12:00:16 <asamalik> #topic Roll call 12:00:16 <asamalik> #chair stickster ryanlerch cverna asamalik sub_pop gregbartholomew jakfrost misc rwaltr bcotton 12:00:16 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine' 12:00:16 <zodbot> Current chairs: asamalik bcotton cverna gregbartholomew jakfrost misc rwaltr ryanlerch stickster sub_pop 12:00:21 <gregbartholomew> .hello glb 12:00:22 <zodbot> gregbartholomew: glb 'Gregory Lee Bartholomew' <gregory.lee.bartholomew@gmail.com> 12:00:40 <jakfrost> .hello2 12:00:41 <zodbot> jakfrost: jakfrost 'None' <s40w5s@gmail.com> 12:01:08 <asamalik> .hello2 12:01:09 <zodbot> asamalik: asamalik 'Adam Samalik' <asamalik@redhat.com> 12:01:44 <asamalik> Hi everyone! 12:01:52 <jakfrost> Hi 12:02:01 * jakfrost wishes he was 12:02:15 <stickster> .hello pfrields 12:02:16 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com> 12:02:24 <bcotton> .hello2 12:02:25 <zodbot> bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' <bcotton@redhat.com> 12:02:28 * stickster semi-lurking 12:02:49 <gregbartholomew> hi 12:03:15 <asamalik> #topic Agenda 12:03:15 <asamalik> #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-magazine/workflow/ 12:03:15 <asamalik> #info -- 1/ Last week's stats -- 12:03:15 <asamalik> #info -- 2/ In progress followup -- 12:03:15 <asamalik> #info -- 3/ Finished articles to review -- 12:03:15 <asamalik> #info -- 4/ Articles to edit -- 12:03:16 <asamalik> #info -- 5/ Publishing schedule -- 12:03:16 <asamalik> #info -- 6/ Article proposals to clarify / approve -- 12:03:16 <asamalik> #info -- 7/ Editor of the Week -- 12:03:17 <asamalik> #info -- 8/ Open floor -- 12:04:07 <asamalik> #topic 1/ Last week's stats 12:04:27 <asamalik> #info Week of 20 Jul: 61.1k pageviews -- slightly below last week 12:04:43 <asamalik> #topic 2/ In progress followup 12:04:43 <asamalik> #info Looking at the 'in progress' column, is there something that's been finished? Anything to follow up on with its author? 12:04:43 <asamalik> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban 12:04:53 <asamalik> #info 3 cards in progress 12:05:35 <asamalik> #183 is sitting there for a month, and it's a release announcement, we have no reactions from the author 12:06:17 <asamalik> torsava: are you still interested in finishing your Fedora Magazine article? https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/us/183 12:07:51 <asamalik> #213 is in progress, but not assigned, and it looks like the author is not in Taiga 12:08:08 <jakfrost> I'm not sure what is going on with #213. I haven't been able to get a response from the author 12:08:32 <gregbartholomew> I think it's been in WP for quite a while as well. 12:08:50 <asamalik> I've added the author to the board and assigned 12:10:01 <jakfrost> asamalik: I tried that earlier and couldn't find him 12:10:16 * jakfrost scratches his head 12:10:36 <asamalik> jakfrost: I clicked on their name in wordpress, copied their username from the URL, asked zodbot for their email, added that email to Taiga 12:11:00 <jakfrost> gotcha, so simple when you say it that way 12:11:34 <stickster> The way to find email in zodbot by the way: /msg zodbot fasinfo <fasusername> 12:12:12 <jakfrost> stickster: thanks, bcotton showed me that trick earlier 12:12:40 <gregbartholomew> I thought I tried that method before, but the account remained disabled/grayed-out and in "pending" status. I wasn't able to add a disabled account to a card. 12:12:42 <asamalik> or I do "/query zodbot" to open a chat window with it and then just "fasinfo <nick>" in there 12:13:00 <jakfrost> but he used just .fasinfo <fasusername> 12:13:12 <jakfrost> but I like options 12:13:14 <asamalik> gregbartholomew: if it's pending in Taiga, that means they haven't logged in.. they need to log in first 12:13:30 <stickster> yeah, that works too, it puts the info in the current channel. My way sends it privately, that's all 12:13:45 <jakfrost> okay, that is better 12:13:58 <jakfrost> must respect privacy 12:14:55 <asamalik> so, looks like everything that's in progress is in progress 12:14:57 <asamalik> anything else here? 12:15:48 <gregbartholomew> The last note on #209 says it is waiting for review. 12:17:43 <jakfrost> It looks like it shoild be in review 12:19:06 <asamalik> you're right, moving it 12:20:36 <asamalik> #topic 3/ Finished articles to review 12:20:36 <asamalik> #info Looking at the 'review' column, let's decide which articles are good to go. Move each either to the 'to edit' (finished) or to the 'in progress' (needs more work) and provide feedback. 12:20:36 <asamalik> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban 12:22:36 <asamalik> 210 looks good to me 12:22:45 <jakfrost> me too. also 12:24:36 <asamalik> and back to 209... the article itself looks good to me, but it states a few facts without references, like in the "On the Kernel" section 12:25:26 * stickster looks 12:25:40 <gregbartholomew> Do we want references to ZFS though? I though that was a bit taboo. 12:26:44 <jakfrost> I think ZFS or any file system that you can use is not necessarily taboo 12:27:30 <jakfrost> I am not sure that the kernel updates break the system normally, at least I never experience it 12:27:41 <jakfrost> maybe with rawhide 12:28:43 <gregbartholomew> Once in a while, a kernel update will be incompatible with the current version of ZFS that is available though the ZFS rpm repository. 12:28:55 <gregbartholomew> I think that is what he is probably referring to. 12:29:07 <asamalik> jakfrost: I only see a reference about rebuilding custom kernel modules every time new kernel comes in 12:29:30 <jakfrost> the kernel section should have links to the wiki about release cycle, which has the testing criteria also linked there 12:29:49 <gregbartholomew> When that happens, the system won't boot with the newest/default kernel. You have to pick the previous kernel until the ZFS repo catches up. 12:30:17 <jakfrost> asamalik: that is what I am talking about, custom kernels are sort of an outlier 12:30:35 <jakfrost> gregbartholomew: that is logical 12:31:49 <asamalik> it's a nice article, I wonder however if we want to publish it as a story of this user, why did they switch to Fedora, and what's important to them? compared to a generic "switch to Fedora"... 12:32:21 <asamalik> similar to the "how do you Fedora" series 12:32:25 <jakfrost> perhaps, a user perspective on switching say 12:32:27 <asamalik> but "why do you Fedora" :D 12:33:09 <gregbartholomew> I think I remember him noting something about needing some usability software. I think the author is visually impaired. 12:33:10 <asamalik> the article doesn't give you all the reasons why Fedora is amazing, but a few reasons why it's amazing to that user, and I like it 12:33:43 * gregbartholomew not 100% sure about that. 12:34:49 <jakfrost> it reads well in any case 12:35:04 <jakfrost> sysoplab: any thoughts 12:36:16 <asamalik> we could call it something like "Matthew Arnold: Why I switched to Fedora" 12:36:31 <jakfrost> +1 12:36:43 <asamalik> then the second paragraph starting with "In my case..." would work well 12:37:02 <asamalik> and it could encourage other people to tell their stories 12:37:17 <jakfrost> which would be a good thing 12:39:09 <gregbartholomew> +1 12:39:59 <asamalik> cool! 12:40:04 <asamalik> moved to the next column 12:41:16 <asamalik> also asking the author about the title, if they're ok with it 12:41:36 <jakfrost> good point 12:41:37 <asamalik> nothing else left in this column! 12:41:49 <asamalik> #topic 4/ Articles to edit 12:41:49 <asamalik> #info Looking at the 'to edit' column, assign an editor and a cover image creator. 12:41:49 <asamalik> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban 12:42:02 <asamalik> #206 is already assigned since last meeting 12:42:14 <jakfrost> so is #209 12:42:29 <jakfrost> sysoplab was assigned as editor 12:42:37 <asamalik> and I'd suggest #210 for Monday and #209 for next Wednesday to give the author time to confirm the title 12:42:49 <asamalik> oh ok! 12:43:01 <asamalik> I'll not it in the card then 12:43:01 <gregbartholomew> I didn't mean to assign sysoplab as editor, specifically. 12:43:16 <jakfrost> oh I misunderstood then 12:43:19 * asamalik is now confused 12:43:23 <asamalik> :D 12:43:25 <jakfrost> not the first time 12:43:29 <jakfrost> for me that is 12:43:32 <gregbartholomew> He had opinions about how the article should be revised before being moved forward. 12:43:42 <gregbartholomew> It looks like his concerns were addressed. 12:43:48 <asamalik> jakfrost: lol, I was thinking "thanks!" :D 12:44:37 <jakfrost> asamalik: Confusion is a state of mind 12:44:51 <gregbartholomew> I just asked sysoplab to work with the author on the article. I guess that means that sysoplab could do the pre-publication editing though. 12:45:12 <asamalik> gregbartholomew: did he say yes? :) 12:45:33 <gregbartholomew> sysoplab agreed to work with the author on some revisions, yes. 12:46:14 <asamalik> ok 12:46:15 <gregbartholomew> didn't agree to final editing of the article for publication by a deadline though. 12:46:42 <jakfrost> I think he mentioned he was very busy this week 12:46:46 <gregbartholomew> also, he seems to have disappeared recently. 12:46:46 <asamalik> ok 12:47:27 <asamalik> ok, so let's give him time to deal with stuff then and not assign him :) 12:47:33 <asamalik> so we need to volunteers! 12:47:38 <jakfrost> so I could edit #210 if needed 12:47:42 <asamalik> I'm already signed up for #2016 12:47:47 <asamalik> jakfrost++ 12:47:50 <gregbartholomew> I can take #209 12:47:55 <asamalik> jakfrost: both image and edit? 12:48:01 <jakfrost> sure 12:48:01 <asamalik> glb++ 12:48:07 <asamalik> gregbartholomew: both image and edit? 12:48:13 <gregbartholomew> sure 12:49:23 <asamalik> #action jakfrost edit + image #210 12:49:31 <asamalik> #action glb edit + image #209 12:49:36 <asamalik> #topic 5/ Publishing schedule 12:49:36 <asamalik> #info Looking at the 'queued' and 'to edit' columns, decide the publishing schedule for the next week period. 12:49:36 <asamalik> #info If there is not enough content, we might also need to look at the 'in progress' or even the 'article spec' columns come up with additional content. 12:49:36 <asamalik> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban 12:49:50 <asamalik> and I was thinking #210 monday and #209 Wednesday 12:49:58 <jakfrost> +1 12:49:58 <gregbartholomew> +1 12:50:46 <asamalik> #proposed #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Fri 31 Jul 2020: #206 Real-time noise suppression in PulseAudio (image: asamalik, edit: asamalik) -- Mon 03 Aug 2020: #210 Backup & restore toolboxes (image: jakfrost, edit: jakfrost) -- Wed 05 Aug 2020: #209 "Matthew Arnold: Why I switched to Fedora" (image: glb, edit: glb) 12:51:05 <asamalik> and since you've +1'd already... 12:51:06 <asamalik> #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Fri 31 Jul 2020: #206 Real-time noise suppression in PulseAudio (image: asamalik, edit: asamalik) -- Mon 03 Aug 2020: #210 Backup & restore toolboxes (image: jakfrost, edit: jakfrost) -- Wed 05 Aug 2020: #209 "Matthew Arnold: Why I switched to Fedora" (image: glb, edit: glb) 12:51:07 <gregbartholomew> +1 12:51:20 <jakfrost> +1 12:51:24 <asamalik> \o/ 12:51:25 <jakfrost> for balance 12:51:37 <asamalik> #topic 6/ Article proposals to clarify / approve 12:51:38 <asamalik> #info Review the the article proposals and decide about what's next — a new article spec? more discussion? 12:51:38 <asamalik> #link Article proposals in our forum: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/c/project/Discussion-related-to-Fedora-Magazine 12:51:58 <asamalik> I looked in the forum before the meeting, created one card, no other new ones right now 12:52:09 <asamalik> we seem to be doing a great job of monitoring it throughout the week! 12:52:30 <asamalik> everyone++ 12:53:26 <asamalik> #topic 7/ Editor of the Week 12:53:32 <asamalik> we need one more volunteer today 12:54:03 * jakfrost nudges the semi-lurker stickster 12:55:24 <jakfrost> five minute left... 12:55:48 <asamalik> yes, we're on time :) 12:55:59 <asamalik> I can also ask in the forum for a volunteer 12:56:14 <asamalik> maybe someone who's not here today could be here next week :) 12:56:42 <jakfrost> I would but I am working on a very big quote (for me anyway), and I am going to setup rawhide on my fedora box so... 12:57:20 * stickster pops up 12:57:30 <asamalik> there is no pressure! 12:57:34 <gregbartholomew> I've got some major server upgrades to prep for for the upcomming Fall semester. 12:57:57 <stickster> I can do next week. That's basically running the meeting and sorting out the next week's schedule? 12:58:06 <jakfrost> correct 12:58:09 <asamalik> oh, fantastic 12:58:12 <asamalik> stickster++ 12:58:12 <bcotton> and keeping an eye on comments, proposals, etc 12:58:19 <jakfrost> stickster++ 12:58:28 <bcotton> stickster++ 12:58:28 <stickster> OK. That eye keeping starts when? Today or next week? 12:58:35 <bcotton> sunday through saturday 12:58:38 <stickster> OK. 12:58:42 <gregbartholomew> stickster++ 12:58:43 <asamalik> #info stickster will be Editor of the Week next week 12:58:52 <jakfrost> we will all help where we can 12:58:55 <asamalik> and that's all for today, thanks everyone! 12:59:04 <asamalik> #endmeeting