<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:00:52
!startmeeting Alterative Images (2024-01-11)
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
19:00:52
Meeting started at 2024-01-11 19:00:52 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
19:00:53
The Meeting name is 'Alterative Images (2024-01-11)'
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:02:15
!meetingname AltImages
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:02:19
!topic aloha
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
19:05:38
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
19:05:39
Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:05:42
We're looking a little light today
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:05:51
Hi Neil
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:06:05
!topic Image build systems: kiwi
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:06:49
Neal (not Neil) and I got together this month and he showed me how to create images using kiwi
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:07:44
Although it's not all that hard, the amount of options to do it ... well ... it was beyond what I could figure out on my own. But after he did, I was/am able to create and test my own images.
<@davide:cavalca.name>
19:07:45
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
19:07:47
Davide Cavalca (dcavalca) - he / him / his
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
19:07:57
awesome!
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
19:08:01
hiya Davide
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:08:08
But, we still have the problem, that although things install, they do not boot.
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:08:16
Hi DAvide
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:08:41
I was able to track that back to the initrfs isn't being generated.
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
19:08:41
well that's not very fun
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:09:30
Oh ... I should have got all the errors out and ready to print before this meeting ... I'll be a minute or two.
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:11:24
So, the problem is with dracut. It fails with teh following
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:11:27
dracut --regenerate-all --no-hostonly --force /usr/bin/dracut -f /boot/initramfs-5.14.0-402.el9.x86_64.img 5.14.0-402.el9.x86_64
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:11:48
Wait ... sorry ... no ... that is how you can fix it.
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:12:14
dracut: dracut module 'livenet' depends on 'dmsquash-live', which can't be installed dracut: dracut module 'dmsquash-live' cannot be found or installed.
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:12:44
So, even though livenet isn't loaded as a module, dracut is trying to pull it in.
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:13:30
And, dmsquash-live is on the system ... which makes it even odder.
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:13:45
Anyway ... in short ... no solution yet.
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:14:11
I've ruled out alot of things, like missing packages and that ... but no solutions.
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:15:23
I really want to get this solved by CentOS Connect ... soo ... that is my goal.
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:16:19
I just realized I never actually pinged Conan Kudo in the meeting, I kept saying Neal.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:16:33
hi
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:17:16
Since my initial investigation ... I think that was last week, I haven't had time to work on it more.
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:18:25
Conan Kudo Are the Hyperscale images having this same problem? Or is it unique to us?
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:18:41
the hyperscale images don't build right now because of the out of date anaconda stack
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:18:53
Ah, ok.
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
19:19:26
I should have the anaconda stack ready this week.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:19:39
Troy Dawson: have you reached out to any dracut developers for tips on debugging it?
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:19:59
Conan Kudo I have not.
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:21:37
It's on my list of things to do with the image ... in addition to starting the anaconda-live install using the script from ... https://github.com/mbugni/centos-remix.git
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:23:08
They don't install anaconda-live, they echo the contents of the file in, so you can see what it's doing. It's very similar, but not exactly, the same ... anyway ... that is my next step.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:23:48
they use anaconda-liveinst now: https://github.com/mbugni/centos-remix/commit/2e929199ea52b16fc6b7e451b7d3b6deda7802d9
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:24:37
Oh .... hmmm ... I was using an older commit for mine ... well ... I'll have to build a new one of theirs.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:25:15
.hello
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:25:28
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
19:25:29
Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:25:50
Anyway ... in short ... I'm looking at it, and hopefully we'll have this fixed by CentOS Connect at the beginning of next month.
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:26:08
I really want this fixed before I fly to Brussels at the end of this month
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:26:17
that way we have something cool to show off
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:26:39
But, that doesn't mean others can't look.
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
19:26:39
You'll be in Brussels, Troy?
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:26:52
Yep, I got funding to go.
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
19:26:57
Awesome :)
<@salimma:fedora.im>
19:27:06
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
19:27:07
Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his
<@salimma:fedora.im>
19:27:21
I have an appointment conflict today so just lurking
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:28:29
I'll try to keep my debugging conversations on our regular Matrix channel, so ya'll can see. But I dno't see myself getting time until next week.
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:29:31
Any other things dealing with Images and kiwi ?
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:30:48
!topic Open Floor
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:31:16
I do have one item for open floor ... how many of you will be at CentOS Connect and/or Fosdem ?
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:31:36
I'll be there, and giving an AltImages talk.
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:33:59
I'm sure that Conan Kudo will be there ... He's got two Meetups ... one of which is the Alternative Images SIG meeting.
<@davide:cavalca.name>
19:34:24
I'll be there
<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>
19:34:48
I will be there
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:35:16
Cool ... this will basically be the whole SIG, except Robby.
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:35:34
I see that Michel Lind is also giving a presentation, so I assume he will be there.
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:36:25
One of the subjects I'd like to bring up in the meetup is "we have an image, what next?"
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:36:40
That's assuming we have an image then ... which I'll be very sad if we don't.
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
19:36:53
Operation Keep Troy Not Sad
<@salimma:fedora.im>
19:37:20
Yup, will be there in person for the first time!
<@salimma:fedora.im>
19:37:54
I presented/volunteered online in 21, that was fun
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:38:58
That's all I had for business and open floor. Does anyone have anything else?
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:40:21
Thank ya'll for your help and support. And next meeting is going to be in person. See you there.
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
19:40:48
Thank you Troy. Looking forward to seeing y'all in Brussels
<@tdawson:fedora.im>
19:40:52
!endmeeting