2024-01-11 19:00:52 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !startmeeting Alterative Images (2024-01-11)
2024-01-11 19:00:52 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-01-11 19:00:52 UTC
2024-01-11 19:00:53 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Alterative Images (2024-01-11)'
2024-01-11 19:02:15 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !meetingname AltImages
2024-01-11 19:02:19 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic aloha
2024-01-11 19:05:38 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !hi
2024-01-11 19:05:39 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his
2024-01-11 19:05:42 <@tdawson:fedora.im> We're looking a little light today
2024-01-11 19:05:51 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Hi Neil
2024-01-11 19:06:05 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic Image build systems: kiwi
2024-01-11 19:06:49 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Neal  (not Neil) and I got together this month and he showed me how to create images using kiwi
2024-01-11 19:07:44 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Although it's not all that hard, the amount of options to do it ... well ... it was beyond what I could figure out on my own.  But after he did, I was/am able to create and test my own images.
2024-01-11 19:07:45 <@davide:cavalca.name> !hi
2024-01-11 19:07:47 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Davide Cavalca (dcavalca) - he / him / his
2024-01-11 19:07:57 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> awesome! 
2024-01-11 19:08:01 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> hiya Davide 
2024-01-11 19:08:08 <@tdawson:fedora.im> But, we still have the problem, that although things install, they do not boot.
2024-01-11 19:08:16 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Hi DAvide
2024-01-11 19:08:41 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I was able to track that back to the initrfs isn't being generated.
2024-01-11 19:08:41 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> well that's not very fun
2024-01-11 19:09:30 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Oh ... I should have got all the errors out and ready to print before this meeting  ... I'll be a minute or two.
2024-01-11 19:11:24 <@tdawson:fedora.im> So, the problem is with dracut.  It fails with teh following
2024-01-11 19:11:27 <@tdawson:fedora.im> dracut --regenerate-all --no-hostonly --force
/usr/bin/dracut -f /boot/initramfs-5.14.0-402.el9.x86_64.img 5.14.0-402.el9.x86_64
2024-01-11 19:11:48 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Wait ... sorry ... no ... that is how you can fix it.
2024-01-11 19:12:14 <@tdawson:fedora.im> dracut: dracut module 'livenet' depends on 'dmsquash-live', which can't be installed
dracut: dracut module 'dmsquash-live' cannot be found or installed.
2024-01-11 19:12:44 <@tdawson:fedora.im> So, even though livenet isn't loaded as a module, dracut is trying to pull it in.
2024-01-11 19:13:30 <@tdawson:fedora.im> And, dmsquash-live is on the system ... which makes it even odder.
2024-01-11 19:13:45 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Anyway ... in short ... no solution yet.
2024-01-11 19:14:11 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I've ruled out alot of things, like missing packages and that ... but no solutions.
2024-01-11 19:15:23 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I really want to get this solved by CentOS Connect ... soo ... that is my goal.
2024-01-11 19:16:19 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I just realized I never actually pinged Conan Kudo in the meeting, I kept saying Neal.
2024-01-11 19:16:33 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> hi
2024-01-11 19:17:16 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Since my initial investigation ... I think that was last week, I haven't had time to work on it more.
2024-01-11 19:18:25 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Conan Kudo Are the Hyperscale images having this same problem?  Or is it unique to us?
2024-01-11 19:18:41 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> the hyperscale images don't build right now because of the out of date anaconda stack
2024-01-11 19:18:53 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Ah, ok.
2024-01-11 19:19:26 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> I should have the anaconda stack ready this week.
2024-01-11 19:19:39 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Troy Dawson: have you reached out to any dracut developers for tips on debugging it?
2024-01-11 19:19:59 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Conan Kudo I have not.
2024-01-11 19:21:37 <@tdawson:fedora.im> It's on my list of things to do with the image ... in addition to starting the anaconda-live install using the script from ... https://github.com/mbugni/centos-remix.git
2024-01-11 19:23:08 <@tdawson:fedora.im> They don't install anaconda-live, they echo the contents of the file in, so you can see what it's doing.  It's very similar, but not exactly, the same ... anyway ... that is my next step.
2024-01-11 19:23:48 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> they use anaconda-liveinst now: https://github.com/mbugni/centos-remix/commit/2e929199ea52b16fc6b7e451b7d3b6deda7802d9
2024-01-11 19:24:37 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Oh .... hmmm ... I was using an older commit for mine ... well ... I'll have to build a new one of theirs.
2024-01-11 19:25:15 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> .hello
2024-01-11 19:25:28 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !hi
2024-01-11 19:25:29 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
2024-01-11 19:25:50 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Anyway ... in short ... I'm looking at it, and hopefully we'll have this fixed by CentOS Connect at the beginning of next month.
2024-01-11 19:26:08 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I really want this fixed before I fly to Brussels at the end of this month
2024-01-11 19:26:17 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> that way we have something cool to show off
2024-01-11 19:26:39 <@tdawson:fedora.im> But, that doesn't mean others can't look.
2024-01-11 19:26:39 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> You'll be in Brussels, Troy?
2024-01-11 19:26:52 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Yep, I got funding to go.
2024-01-11 19:26:57 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Awesome :) 
2024-01-11 19:27:06 <@salimma:fedora.im> !hi
2024-01-11 19:27:07 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his
2024-01-11 19:27:21 <@salimma:fedora.im> I have an appointment conflict today so just lurking 
2024-01-11 19:28:29 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I'll try to keep my debugging conversations on our regular Matrix channel, so ya'll can see.  But I dno't see myself getting time until next week.
2024-01-11 19:29:31 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Any other things dealing with Images and kiwi ?
2024-01-11 19:30:48 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic Open Floor
2024-01-11 19:31:16 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I do have one item for open floor ... how many of you will be at CentOS Connect and/or Fosdem ?
2024-01-11 19:31:36 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I'll be there, and giving an AltImages talk.
2024-01-11 19:33:59 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I'm sure that Conan Kudo will be there ... He's got two Meetups ... one of which is the Alternative Images SIG meeting.
2024-01-11 19:34:24 <@davide:cavalca.name> I'll be there
2024-01-11 19:34:48 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I will be there
2024-01-11 19:35:16 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Cool ... this will basically be the whole SIG, except Robby.
2024-01-11 19:35:34 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I see that Michel Lind is also giving a presentation, so I assume he will be there.
2024-01-11 19:36:25 <@tdawson:fedora.im> One of the subjects I'd like to bring up in the meetup is "we have an image, what next?"
2024-01-11 19:36:40 <@tdawson:fedora.im> That's assuming we have an image then ... which I'll be very sad if we don't.
2024-01-11 19:36:53 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Operation Keep Troy Not Sad
2024-01-11 19:37:20 <@salimma:fedora.im> Yup, will be there in person for the first time!
2024-01-11 19:37:54 <@salimma:fedora.im> I presented/volunteered online in 21, that was fun
2024-01-11 19:38:58 <@tdawson:fedora.im> That's all I had for business and open floor.  Does anyone have anything else?
2024-01-11 19:40:21 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Thank ya'll for your help and support.  And next meeting is going to be in person.  See you there.
2024-01-11 19:40:48 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Thank you Troy. Looking forward to seeing y'all in Brussels
2024-01-11 19:40:52 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !endmeeting