16:00:17 <tuanta> #startmeeting 16:00:17 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Mar 25 16:00:17 2014 UTC. The chair is tuanta. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:17 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:00:39 <tuanta> #meetingname FAmSCo 20140325 16:00:39 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famsco_20140325' 16:00:49 <tuanta> #topic Roll call 16:00:59 <tuanta> .fas tuanta 16:00:59 <zodbot> tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com> 16:01:32 <tuanta> #info sensivany sent regrets 16:02:18 <tuanta> ping yn1v lbazan masta robyduck 16:03:15 <yn1v> 64 bytes from yn1v: icmp_seq=3 ttl=51 time=45.5 ms 16:03:43 <robyduck> .fas robyduck 16:03:44 <zodbot> robyduck: robyduck 'Robert Mayr' <robyduck@gmail.com> 16:03:49 <yn1v> .fas yn1v 16:03:50 <zodbot> yn1v: yn1v 'Neville A. Cross' <yn1v@taygon.com> 16:03:54 * yn1v Nicaragua 16:04:15 <tuanta> #chair robyduck yn1v 16:04:15 <zodbot> Current chairs: robyduck tuanta yn1v 16:04:50 <yn1v> lbazan, was around a few minutes ago we were chatting. 16:05:42 * tuanta just pinged masta, but not sure he's around 16:06:29 <lbazan> .fas lbazan 16:06:29 <zodbot> lbazan: lbazan 'Luis Enrique Bazán De León' <bazanluis20@gmail.com> 16:06:39 <tuanta> have we got any hot topics to discuss today? 16:06:48 <lbazan> tuanta: budget? 16:06:58 <yn1v> tuanta, how is the status of fudcon beiging 2014... specially regarding budget? 16:07:15 <tuanta> #chair lbazan 16:07:15 <zodbot> Current chairs: lbazan robyduck tuanta yn1v 16:07:27 <yn1v> I saw an email from Robyn, bu it didn't said much 16:07:33 * masta looks in 16:07:40 <masta> sry I'm late 16:07:48 <tuanta> #topic FUDCon Beijing 2014 16:07:54 <tuanta> #chair masta 16:07:54 <zodbot> Current chairs: lbazan masta robyduck tuanta yn1v 16:08:26 <tuanta> I got a good news for FUDCon Beijing 2014 16:08:52 <tuanta> Robyn finally responded the organizing team with a positive comment 16:08:55 <lbazan> :-) 16:09:01 * lbazan good! 16:09:16 <tuanta> it's not a final approval, but almost 16:09:41 <tuanta> organizing team can go ahead (in fact, they are doing so) 16:10:30 <tuanta> a lot of preparation work need to be done soon while time is coming 16:10:37 <tuanta> eof 16:10:48 <tuanta> have you got any questions? 16:11:27 <yn1v> yes, how do I get that for FUDCon Managua 2014 ? 16:12:09 <robyduck> tuanta: I see one thing important, Visas! 16:12:15 <tuanta> #info FUDCon Beijing 2014 has been nearly approved by FPL. Organizing is going ahead. 16:12:26 <yn1v> Did you write directly to her asking about the event? 16:12:27 <tuanta> #undo 16:12:27 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by tuanta at 16:12:15 : FUDCon Beijing 2014 has been nearly approved by FPL. Organizing is going ahead. 16:12:31 <tuanta> #info FUDCon Beijing 2014 has been nearly approved by FPL. Organizing team is going ahead. 16:12:42 <robyduck> and eventually invitation letters 16:12:58 <tuanta> yn1v: I had to write her directly several times 16:13:18 <tuanta> and have been waiting for a few weeks 16:13:19 <lbazan> robyduck: +1 16:13:44 <lbazan> yn1v: when is the fudcon Managua? 16:13:50 <tuanta> she got a seriously ill then she can not respond in time 16:14:10 <yn1v> October 29, 30 and November 1st 16:14:26 <lbazan> tuanta: emails to ruth or robyn? 16:14:30 * tuanta is looking for Visa section on event wiki 16:15:00 <yn1v> We set date later to avoid money conflicts with flock 16:15:36 <lbazan> yn1v: last year was the same problem but was resolved ... 16:15:39 <yn1v> For Cusco all credit card were recehed the limit and it was difficult to buy flight tickets 16:17:29 <robyduck> we should not mix up Fudcons, Managua is the last big event this year, Beijing has only two months from now on to organize the event 16:17:33 <tuanta> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Beijing_2014#Visa_Application 16:17:42 <robyduck> thx tuanta 16:17:53 <tuanta> robyduck: not much information, just links to official websites 16:18:05 <robyduck> humm 16:18:29 <robyduck> I saw they are not so easy to get, exspecially for asian guys 16:18:57 <tuanta> yes, robyduck 16:18:58 <robyduck> and people has also to request it in time 16:19:23 <tuanta> lbazan, yes I sent emails to both of them 16:19:29 <lbazan> tuanta: ok 16:19:58 <lbazan> yn1v: you must be insistent :-) 16:20:57 <yn1v> I will 16:21:40 <tuanta> I am afraid that time and visa would be some of barrier for people to come to FUDCon Beijing 16:22:12 <tuanta> if you would like to attend, you should start the process for applying a visa soon 16:23:45 <tuanta> any more questions or comments? 16:24:09 <tuanta> or we can change to FUDCon Managua 16:24:38 <masta> it would be nice to see the other FUDcon's around the regions. 16:25:18 <tuanta> #info getting visa on time is a big issue to attend FUDCon Beijing 2014, so if you would like to come, you should apply for it asap 16:25:39 <tuanta> #topic FUDCon Managua 2014 16:26:22 <tuanta> this link: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Managua_2014 16:26:24 <tuanta> right? 16:26:32 <yn1v> We are stuck. It has been difficult to find sponsors because we can not tell them that the event is approved 16:26:45 <yn1v> yes, that is the link. 16:27:00 <tuanta> it has been approved, so you should change the link 16:27:13 <masta> hi folks, I will have to join another meeting, but will be half here and there.... fyi 16:27:18 <tuanta> to things like https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_Managua_2014 16:27:21 * masta lurks 16:27:24 <lbazan> tuanta: +1 16:27:35 <yn1v> We haven't get approval by FPL 16:27:51 <tuanta> #action yn1v to change FUDCon Managua URL to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_Managua_2014 16:28:09 <tuanta> #undo 16:28:09 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by tuanta at 16:27:51 : yn1v to change FUDCon Managua URL to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_Managua_2014 16:28:17 <tuanta> ah, I see 16:28:44 <tuanta> yn1v, you should send mail directly to Robyn and Ruth 16:28:59 <tuanta> I believe aeperezt knows the process to get it approved 16:29:06 <yn1v> The venue was charging us for the use of the facilities, but we have come up with another venue free of charges 16:29:41 <tuanta> +1 you should look for some alternatives 16:29:42 <yn1v> #action yn1v will insist with FPL to get approval for FUDCon Managua 2014. 16:29:56 <tuanta> free venue would saves you budget much 16:30:08 <tuanta> s/saves/save 16:30:10 <yn1v> or at least get a "start working on it" 16:30:33 <yn1v> Local team agreed that we will not pay for venue 16:31:11 <yn1v> we still have another venue free of charge as plan B 16:31:14 <tuanta> you see, FUDCon Beijing has to pay $1800 for venue 16:31:30 <tuanta> we can sponsor more people with that money 16:32:17 <yn1v> not sure what else to add about fudcon managua 2014. Any question? 16:32:49 <tuanta> #info FUDCon Managua organizing team should find a free of charge venue 16:33:30 <yn1v> we already have one venue free of charge and a second as plan B also free of charge 16:33:37 <tuanta> all the budget has not been listed? 16:33:46 <tuanta> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Managua_2014#Budget 16:34:07 <tuanta> I see the total is just less than #5,000 16:34:09 <yn1v> nope, we need to quote advertising material previous the event 16:34:33 <yn1v> and we haven't put any budget for flight tickets 16:34:42 <tuanta> yes, I see 16:34:47 <tuanta> you should list them all 16:35:22 <yn1v> the rationale is that we will use all avaliable money for sponsoring people 16:35:24 <tuanta> note that Fedora can sponsor $15,000, as usual 16:35:44 <tuanta> per FUDCon, AFAIK 16:36:10 <yn1v> I am not sure about that, some latam fudcon have been granted only $10,000 16:36:30 <lbazan> yn1v: +1 16:36:54 <tuanta> you should ask Robyn and Ruth in your direct email 16:37:28 <tuanta> IIRC, Fedora granted $15,000 for FUDCon Kuala Lumpur 2012 16:37:41 <lbazan> yn1v: the budget is 15K 16:37:57 <yn1v> I hope so 16:38:35 <tuanta> anything else? 16:38:44 <lbazan> tuanta: nope 16:38:45 <tuanta> we can go back to this topic in next meetings 16:38:53 <tuanta> when we have more information 16:39:08 <lbazan> tuanta: what happen with the regional budget? (next topic) 16:39:10 <yn1v> There is also that we have to get back to budget and change hosting and catering. We were planning on using the hotel where I work. But it turns out it will be conflict of interest 16:40:16 <tuanta> yn1v, I think it is not a big problem. I support it whenever it is the best way 16:40:17 <yn1v> Which in turn makes more difficult for me to get quotes, because I have to dig information from competitors 16:40:43 <tuanta> lbazan, yes, next topic 16:41:14 <yn1v> Well, that also have to be clear up when we get any kind of approval 16:41:19 <tuanta> yes, yn1v you should look around and come up with the most suitable solution 16:41:39 <tuanta> +1 yn1v 16:41:59 <yn1v> let's move to next topic 16:42:03 <tuanta> #topic Regional Budgets in FY2015 16:42:26 <tuanta> there is no update until now 16:42:54 <tuanta> sensivany may hear something (inside Red Hat) 16:43:55 <lbazan> tuanta: ok 16:44:03 <tuanta> seems they are arranging budget for us inside Red Hat 16:44:20 <aeperezt> Sorry to step in Fudcon Latam budget is 15K, organaizers try to split it on 5k for stuff needed and 10K for sponsoring people 16:44:41 <tuanta> thanks aeperezt 16:44:48 <aeperezt> on Fudcon Valencia was split 7.5 16:45:05 <tuanta> #info Fudcon Latam budget is 15K, organizers try to split it on 5k for stuff needed and 10K for sponsoring people 16:45:06 <lbazan> aeperezt: tks! 16:45:17 <aeperezt> gettings everyone 16:45:38 <tuanta> #info no more updates for Regional Budgets in FY2015 until now 16:46:35 * lbazan the budget is out of our hands ... 16:46:40 <tuanta> I think our budget proposals would be cut out about 30% as last year 16:47:36 <tuanta> regional budgets for YF2015 have not been approved yet, but we can spend them as we planned now 16:47:46 <tuanta> s/YF2015/FY2015 16:48:39 <tuanta> but we should prepare for the bad situation when our budget proposals are cut 16:49:03 <tuanta> in final approval/allocation 16:49:04 <lbazan> tuanta: :( 16:49:20 <tuanta> it was happened last year 16:49:49 <tuanta> and I see no reasons to stop it this year 16:49:58 <tuanta> we need to wait 16:50:05 <lbazan> tuanta: ... ok 16:50:17 <tuanta> but if we planned something and need money, we should go 16:50:43 <tuanta> anything else or next? 16:50:48 <lbazan> tuanta: next.. 16:50:58 <tuanta> #topic Open Floor 16:51:22 <tuanta> is there anything else to discuss today? 16:51:50 <tuanta> lbazan, yn1v, robyduck and masta 16:51:59 <yn1v> not from me 16:52:02 <robyduck> no 16:52:07 <lbazan> tuanta: nop 16:52:17 <tuanta> ok, I will end the meeting now 16:52:25 <tuanta> thanks and see you all next week 16:52:25 <lbazan> tuanta: +1 16:52:33 <tuanta> #endmeeting