16:02:14 <geppetto> #startmeeting fpc 16:02:14 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Aug 25 16:02:14 2022 UTC. 16:02:14 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 16:02:14 <zodbot> The chair is geppetto. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 16:02:14 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:02:14 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fpc' 16:02:14 <geppetto> #meetingname fpc 16:02:14 <geppetto> #topic Roll Call 16:02:14 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fpc' 16:02:38 <tibbs> Hey. 16:02:43 <carlwgeorge> .hi 16:02:44 <zodbot> carlwgeorge: carlwgeorge 'Carl George' <carl@redhat.com> 16:02:48 <geppetto> #chair tibbs 16:02:48 <zodbot> Current chairs: geppetto tibbs 16:02:52 <tibbs> Sorry about last week; I was sitting at home without power. 16:02:53 <geppetto> #chair carlwgeorge 16:02:53 <zodbot> Current chairs: carlwgeorge geppetto tibbs 16:03:15 <geppetto> Not much you could do about that 16:03:34 <decathorpe> .hi 16:03:35 <zodbot> decathorpe: decathorpe 'Fabio Valentini' <decathorpe@gmail.com> 16:03:36 <GwynCieslasheher> .hi 16:03:38 <zodbot> GwynCieslasheher: Sorry, but user 'GwynCieslasheher' does not exist 16:03:51 <GwynCieslasheher> tibbs: good times! 16:04:08 <geppetto> #chair GwynCieslasheher 16:04:08 <zodbot> Current chairs: GwynCieslasheher carlwgeorge geppetto tibbs 16:05:21 <GwynCieslasheher> But I do...I swear 16:05:54 <decathorpe> is it just me or does it look like some messages are dropped coming from IRC -> Matrix? 16:06:06 <GwynCieslasheher> Hard to say from the Matrix side. 16:06:13 <GwynCieslasheher> I've heard of that happening recently. 16:06:15 <decathorpe> I didn't see #startmeeting for example 16:06:48 <carlwgeorge> bridging is such a bad experience 16:06:49 <geppetto> I had planned to switch to matrix this year, but haven't used it in months now :( 16:07:37 <tibbs> I tried to switch to matrix but couldn't find a client that I could stomach. 16:07:43 <geppetto> #chair decathorpe 16:07:43 <zodbot> Current chairs: GwynCieslasheher carlwgeorge decathorpe geppetto tibbs 16:07:48 <jonathanspw> .hi 16:07:49 <zodbot> jonathanspw: jonathanspw 'Jonathan Wright' <jonathan@almalinux.org> 16:07:58 <carlwgeorge> i'm on the irc more often but i'd also be ok with fedora dropping the bridge and going full matrix for meetings 16:08:01 <decathorpe> element web client is still the best, sadly 16:08:12 * geppetto nods 16:08:15 <jonathanspw> carlwgeorge: eww not yet another chat client :( 16:08:27 <carlwgeorge> just another browser tab :D 16:08:29 <GwynCieslasheher> I use Element flatpak for another account and SchildiChat flatpak for this one. 16:08:58 <geppetto> I think I tried element, didn't seem better than web. 16:08:58 <GwynCieslasheher> The associated android apps are good. 16:09:19 <geppetto> Although it was somewhat nice to have a dedicated app. 16:09:30 * geppetto nods 16:09:51 <GwynCieslasheher> Yeah. Personal preference really. 16:10:55 <geppetto> #topic Open Floor 16:11:00 <GwynCieslasheher> I'm sure there will be more clients and the existing ones will mature. It's not like IRC which is decades old and well understood. 16:11:04 <GwynCieslasheher> nheko isn't bad. 16:11:07 <geppetto> Nothing new/changed, so anyone have anything? 16:11:22 <geppetto> 1193 got a comment that looks like we should just move it to needinfo 16:11:26 <geppetto> or something. 16:11:39 <GwynCieslasheher> Nope 16:12:06 <decathorpe> I opened https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/pull-request/1204 16:12:32 <decathorpe> the changes should be non-controversial, mostly cleanups of stuff for old Fedora releases, and a few clarifications 16:12:52 <decathorpe> also split into different commits, so the review should be relatively straightforward 16:14:24 <geppetto> yeh, unless someone shouts soon I'll click the merge button 16:14:33 <GwynCieslasheher> Go for it 16:14:59 <Eighth_Doctor> .hello ngompa 16:15:00 <zodbot> Eighth_Doctor: ngompa 'Neal Gompa' <ngompa13@gmail.com> 16:15:04 * Eighth_Doctor waves 16:15:11 <decathorpe> hi Neal :) 16:15:20 <geppetto> #chair Eighth_Doctor 16:15:20 <zodbot> Current chairs: Eighth_Doctor GwynCieslasheher carlwgeorge decathorpe geppetto tibbs 16:15:25 <Eighth_Doctor> lgtm 16:15:42 <tibbs> 1204 looks good to me. 16:15:44 <Eighth_Doctor> neochat is getting pretty good too 16:15:55 <Eighth_Doctor> the incomplete E2EE stuff is the main gap 16:16:17 <tibbs> I used neochat and it was borderline unusable for me. 16:16:21 <GwynCieslasheher> Which is the only reason I don't use the native packaged clients. 16:16:34 <geppetto> Eighth_Doctor: not like irc has that though 16:18:07 <geppetto> Anything else? 16:18:41 <decathorpe> I'm good, thanks 16:19:22 <geppetto> #action bcotton Fix matrix bridge and clients. 16:19:48 <decathorpe> oh no :D 16:19:53 <carlwgeorge> haha 16:19:56 <geppetto> And on that note … Enjoy your 40 mins. back :) 16:20:02 <GwynCieslasheher> Thanks all! 16:20:16 <geppetto> #endmeeting