16:10:59 <nasirhm> #startmeeting Fedora i3 (2020-07-14) 16:10:59 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Jul 14 16:10:59 2020 UTC. 16:10:59 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 16:10:59 <zodbot> The chair is nasirhm. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:10:59 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:10:59 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_i3_(2020-07-14)' 16:11:05 <nasirhm> #meetingname i3 16:11:05 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i3' 16:11:13 <nasirhm> #topic Agenda 16:11:21 <nasirhm> #info (1) Roll call / Introductions 16:11:25 <nasirhm> #info (2) Announcements 16:11:32 <nasirhm> (3) Progress updations 16:11:48 <nasirhm> #info (3) Progress Updations 16:11:57 <nasirhm> #info (4) UI Editor 16:12:05 <nasirhm> #info (5) Open floor 16:12:21 <nasirhm> #topic Roll call / Introductions 16:12:39 <nasirhm> .hello2 16:12:39 <zodbot> nasirhm: nasirhm 'Nasir Hussain' <nasirhussainm14@gmail.com> 16:13:07 <defolos> .hello2 16:13:08 <zodbot> defolos: defolos 'Dan Čermák' <dan.cermak@cgc-instruments.com> 16:13:20 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> .hello2 16:13:36 <fedi3bridgerbot> <Defolos> that only works on irc 16:13:42 <nasirhm> @CarlosRFS the irc commands don't work from the Telegram Side, 16:13:44 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> ahh ok 16:14:02 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> so i need to do something here or i need to go to irc? 16:14:02 <nasirhm> you can type: .hello <fasid> 16:14:18 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> .hello <carlosrfs> 16:14:29 <nasirhm> @CarlosRFS : For the discussions here you won't need to be on the IRC side :) 16:14:36 <nasirhm> .hello carlosrfs 16:14:37 <zodbot> nasirhm: carlosrfs 'Carlos Raimundo de Freitas Sotero' <carlosrfs99@gmail.com> 16:14:49 <nasirhm> ^ here @CarlosRFS :) 16:14:57 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> carlosrfs 'Carlos Raimundo de Freitas Sotero' <carlosrfs99@gmail.com> 16:15:16 <nasirhm> others here ? 16:16:07 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> in telegram seens to be just me 16:17:18 <defolos> x3mboy: ? 16:17:50 <nasirhm> #char defolos 16:17:53 <nasirhm> #chair defolos 16:17:53 <zodbot> Current chairs: defolos nasirhm 16:18:41 <nasirhm> Let's proceed with progress updations and let others catch up when they join. :) 16:18:55 <nasirhm> #topic Announcements 16:19:35 <nasirhm> We've got i3 on live with functional and stable packages 16:20:42 <defolos> nasirhm++ 16:20:42 <zodbot> defolos: Karma for nasirhm changed to 10 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 16:20:44 <nasirhm> The draft for the change proposal is setup too, We're planning for F33 but we can let it slip for F34 as well: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/i3/SpinChangeProposal_Draft 16:21:16 <nasirhm> defolos: Thank You ^^ 16:22:10 <nasirhm> So anyone else have got any announcements from Fedora World ? 16:22:24 <defolos> not really any updates from my side 16:22:43 <defolos> I'm digging a bit into the way openQA works in Fedora, but haven't made great progress so far 16:23:21 <nasirhm> Hmm, We would be needs some test cases for the Spin once we make it stable. 16:23:55 <nasirhm> * Hmm, We would be need some test cases for the Spin once we make it stable. 16:24:43 <defolos> yes, definitely 16:24:53 <nasirhm> #topic Progress Updations 16:25:02 <defolos> I really don't have the time to test stuff manually… 16:25:06 <defolos> so openqa is a must 16:25:43 <nasirhm> OpenQA is indeed a must, but still would require manual testing from us to ensure everything works in harmony 16:26:48 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> i can use in one of my machines to test 16:26:49 <nasirhm> #info On the i3 latest respin, we're facing a GTK race condition error which was reported by x3mboy and is faced by people with SOAS as well. 16:27:40 <nasirhm> @CarlosRFS That would be really awesome, I test them on QEMU/KVM and the GTK error was faced on a Baremetal. 16:27:48 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> i work with Vulkan OpenCV and Qt, so the part of Graphics compute and kernel, xorg and graphics api drivers i can test. 16:27:59 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> i can try that to 16:29:20 <nasirhm> That would be a great help, When we create the kickstart we share it with Respins-Sig and Southern_Gentlem /kk4ewt to build it in the respin. 16:29:49 <nasirhm> You can find them at GDrive here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1x70jhY5S18TB6lXPI7QYjDFuWelLm6ov 16:30:36 <nasirhm> In the latest respin, our Kickstart had i3 on live and you would have to open urxvt and type liveinst in order to start the anaconda installer. 16:31:17 <defolos> hm, that sounds like a desktop icon should be added or some other more user friendly way 16:31:23 <kk4ewt> .hello jbwillia 16:31:24 <zodbot> kk4ewt: jbwillia 'Ben Williams' <vaioof@gmail.com> 16:31:26 <defolos> or does the live image boot into i3? 16:31:44 <nasirhm> Hey kk4ewt o/ 16:31:50 <nasirhm> <defolos "or does the live image boot into"> The live image boots into i3 16:33:01 <nasirhm> <defolos "hm, that sounds like a desktop i"> Hmm, that was the case when we were using XFCE on live but wanted to go to a minimal i3. So the last pr was all about cleaning the XFCE thing and thanks for reviewing it and pointing the issues. 16:33:34 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> a botton in i3 bar to open the installer maybe? 16:33:54 <defolos> not in i3 bar itself, but we could add it to i3-nagbar 16:34:22 <defolos> or do it the ghetto-way: write the instructions to the desktop background 😛 16:34:25 <nasirhm> Hmm, Interesting. I was thinking to create a custom config for the live and add it in the ks but was thinking about the mod key, what default should we go for ? 16:34:40 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> alt 16:35:05 <kk4ewt> nasirhm; i think we leave it as is so people can set their own as it is now 16:35:05 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> but in firefox we use alt + number to change between tabs 16:35:41 <defolos> just run the wizard 16:35:48 <defolos> and folks can change it themselves 16:35:58 <nasirhm> Hmm, by creating a universal config on the live we would be able to have the liveinst on Workspace 2 or 1 16:37:59 <nasirhm> So people won't have to run liveinst on terminal but it sure does have a tradeoff here that if we go for WIN (I personally use it) and people prefer ALT for it ? 16:38:33 <kk4ewt> leave as is,is my vote 16:39:19 <nasirhm> Hmm, liveinst on terminal. We can add it with a short video or a gif on the docs on how to do it. 16:39:41 <nasirhm> What do others think defolos @CarlosRFS ? 16:40:33 <kk4ewt> pop up a doc on the desktop or wiki page 16:40:51 <defolos> <kk4ewt "pop up a doc on the desktop or w"> that's a good idea 16:41:15 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> should work 16:41:35 <kk4ewt> can put it on the spin page 16:41:38 <nasirhm> To pop up a doc on the desktop, I think it would still require one to modify the i3 config. 16:41:58 <defolos> <nasirhm "To pop up a doc on the desktop, "> yes 16:42:21 <nasirhm> <kk4ewt "can put it on the spin page"> That would be a great idea in our case as some people won't know about the $MOD key and read the main 3 bold lines on the docs. 16:43:32 <nasirhm> #action let `liveinst` be accessible by urxvt to install. 16:43:37 <kk4ewt> assume no one reads not even the topic in the channel 16:44:03 <kk4ewt> nasirhm; that is one thing we havent tested 16:44:27 <kk4ewt> what happens if liveinst in run in a different terminal 16:44:28 <defolos> I'd still be in favor of just running the i3 setup once the live image starts 16:44:45 <kk4ewt> defolos; it does 16:44:52 <kk4ewt> everytime 16:44:53 <nasirhm> <defolos "I'd still be in favor of just ru"> That's what we currently have are proceeding with. 16:45:05 <nasirhm> > <@defolos:matrix.org> I'd still be in favor of just running the i3 setup once the live image starts 16:45:06 <nasirhm> * That's what we currently have and are proceeding with. 16:45:10 <defolos> so why the discussion about mod? 16:45:43 <nasirhm> defolos: It was an idea from my side to ease the launch of liveinst without opening the terminal. 16:46:07 <x3mboy[m]> .hello2 16:46:08 <zodbot> x3mboy[m]: Sorry, but you don't exist 16:46:20 <x3mboy[m]> .hello x3mboy 16:46:21 <zodbot> x3mboy[m]: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com> 16:46:25 <kk4ewt> nasirhm; what other terminals are available 16:46:25 <x3mboy[m]> :D 16:46:27 <nasirhm> x3mboy: You nick on the matrix side has a [m] attached 16:46:43 <nasirhm> kk4ewt: Another way to launch it is to do by dmenu 16:46:59 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> we can put the live inst to start after the i3 mod menu 16:47:06 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> isnt something impossible 16:47:12 <nasirhm> that can be opened by $MOD+D and typing i3. 16:47:46 <nasirhm> * that can be opened by $MOD+D and typing liveinst*. 16:48:00 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> yeah i know 16:48:01 <nasirhm> <fedi3bridgerbot "<CarlosRFS> isnt something impos"> Hmm Interesting 16:48:35 <x3mboy[m]> ! 16:48:37 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> to start automatically like in the original fedora with gnome 16:48:49 <x3mboy[m]> The race condition is caused by Intel RST 16:48:50 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> but after the user choose the mod key 16:48:57 <nasirhm> I think we can spend some time on finding a way to launch a program from the KS. 16:49:20 <kk4ewt> CarlosRFS it doesnt autostart in Workstation 16:49:57 <nasirhm> x3mboy: I think that would need some research as in the case of a DE it seems to work fine, Isn't it ? 16:50:22 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> the last time i boot a workstation iso it start automatially 16:51:19 <x3mboy[m]> Sure, but I will try to file a bugzilla if I can reproduce it in workstation 16:51:35 <x3mboy[m]> We have 2 spins affected, so probably is worth it 16:51:51 <kk4ewt> x3mboy[m]; i am already working on that 16:52:03 <nasirhm> @CarlosRFS thanks for reminding it, I think launching a program is possible from the ks as it happens with WORK as well, it asks you to select either to use it for live or install. 16:52:09 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> but can be that i press the return key without see 16:52:26 <x3mboy[m]> <kk4ewt "x3mboy[m]; i am already working"> You're fast! 16:52:56 <x3mboy[m]> I have several questions about the current iso 16:52:57 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> you mean in the boot the user select it right? 16:53:18 <x3mboy[m]> We aren't shipping any browser, right? 16:53:22 <nasirhm> <x3mboy[m] "I have several questions about t"> How about having them on Open Floor ? 16:53:38 <x3mboy[m]> Sure 16:53:47 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> in the ks i remember to see the word firefox but just as suggestion i think 16:54:02 <nasirhm> #action kk4ewt filing the GTK error bug on Bugzilla 16:54:44 <nasirhm> #topic GUI Editor 16:54:49 <kk4ewt> x3mboy[m]; i am working with qa to get it filed and fixed 16:54:55 <nasirhm> The most awaited topic of the day :D 16:55:31 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> okay was in the Ideas file 16:56:04 <x3mboy[m]> Proposals are: xed, gedit, leafpad, the other one that is called like leafpad but with numbers 16:56:08 <x3mboy[m]> Any other? 16:56:31 <nasirhm> I recall kk4ewt said pluma 16:57:15 <nasirhm> s/said/suggested/ 16:57:25 <defolos> my opinion: use Fedora's default 16:57:44 <nasirhm> defolos: `ed` ? 16:57:55 <kk4ewt> ed isnt a gui editor 16:58:20 <defolos> nano 16:58:58 <nasirhm> defolos: nano runs on a terminal :D 16:59:27 <defolos> I don't see a problem in that 17:00:11 <x3mboy[m]> neovim 17:00:17 <x3mboy[m]> gvim 17:00:31 <kk4ewt> remember you need to make it for the noobie users to be able to use 17:00:38 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> ctrl + alt + c X ctrl + c -> battle of legends... 17:00:55 <kk4ewt> so gedit or some gui editor 17:00:57 <x3mboy[m]> 305 MB to have qutebrowser!!!!!!!!!! Holly sh$%&/( 17:00:57 <defolos> kk4ewt: i3 is hardly suitable for newbies 17:01:12 <kk4ewt> defolos; yes it is 17:01:24 <x3mboy[m]> If we are going that way I will propose xed 17:01:26 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> Good idea 17:01:47 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> you really hate mouse right? 17:01:53 <x3mboy[m]> i3 is the twm for newbies, it doesn't require programming knowledge to configure it 17:02:20 <kk4ewt> i thought we had to have firefox becasue that is the fedora default but i may be confused 17:02:38 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> I like firefox too 17:02:40 * nasirhm doesn't have any suggestions on text editor but the candidate should be lightweight and shouldn't have many runtime dependencies 17:02:52 <nasirhm> kk4ewt: We can go for firefox 17:02:57 <kk4ewt> #info 20200721 is due date for the change to be filed 17:03:09 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> but i dont remember how many dependencies he have, and now firefox 80 have support to VA-API in Xorg too 17:03:11 <nasirhm> #chair kk4ewt 17:03:11 <zodbot> Current chairs: defolos kk4ewt nasirhm 17:03:21 <kk4ewt> #info 20200721 is due date for the change to be filed 17:03:30 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> so we will put VA-API packages in the iso too? 17:04:05 <kk4ewt> CarlosRFS if they are in the fedora repos 17:05:10 <nasirhm> So, Which GUI text editor are we going for 17:05:24 <kk4ewt> whatever one you put in 17:06:05 <kk4ewt> :) 17:06:12 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> if in 5 minutes we dont choose one i think notepad its the better choice. 17:07:59 <nasirhm> I agree with @CarlosRFS here :D 17:08:13 <nasirhm> let's have a quick vote as we're running out of time 17:08:54 * defolos votes for nano or pluma 17:09:06 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> GEDIT 17:09:06 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> EMACS 17:09:06 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> XED 17:09:06 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> NOTEPAD 17:09:06 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> PLUMA 17:09:07 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> JUST NANO 17:09:11 <kk4ewt> nano isnt a gui 17:09:12 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> choose one people 17:09:18 <kk4ewt> gedit 17:09:26 * defolos is fine with gedit 17:09:36 <kk4ewt> we dont need a editor that thinks its a desktop 17:09:54 * nasirhm is good with gedit and pluma 17:09:59 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> GEDIT 2 votes 17:09:59 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> EMACS 17:09:59 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> XED 17:09:59 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> NOTEPAD 17:09:59 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> PLUMA 17:10:00 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> JUST NANO 17:10:11 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> (edited) GEDIT 3 votes 17:10:11 * x3mboy[m] is good with pluma or xed, and against gedit 17:10:11 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> EMACS 17:10:12 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> XED 17:10:12 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> NOTEPAD 17:10:12 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> PLUMA 1 vote 17:10:12 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> JUST NANO 17:10:36 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> (edited) GEDIT 3 votes 17:10:36 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> EMACS 17:10:36 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> XED 1 vote 17:10:36 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> NOTEPAD 17:10:36 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> PLUMA 2 votes 17:10:37 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> JUST NANO 17:12:08 <nasirhm> Final Verdict. Pluma or Gedit ? 17:13:08 <defolos> python3 -c 'from random import choice; print(choice(["pluma", "gedit"]));' 17:13:08 <defolos> gedit 17:13:11 <defolos> gedit it is 17:13:14 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> Gedit its the better idea. 17:13:44 <nasirhm> gedit it is then :D 17:14:04 <nasirhm> Any objection on gedit ? 17:14:28 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> its build by the aliens that want to domain or planet 17:14:34 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> (edited) its build by the aliens that want to domain our planet 17:15:02 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> we really need more people in this meetings 17:16:03 <nasirhm> #action add gedit on the Brainstorm page and in the Spin's ks 17:16:14 <nasirhm> Would you like to do it @CarlosRFS ? 17:16:32 <kk4ewt> nasirhm; need new ks this evening 17:16:38 <x3mboy[m]> Well, a package to be removed after installation for me 17:16:43 <x3mboy[m]> Not a problem 17:16:46 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> i am still not sure how to do that 17:17:03 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> why you dont love gedit? 17:17:38 <nasirhm> @CarlosRFS you can fork the i3 repo, in the packages section add gedit or the package name and create the PR 17:18:36 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> ok 17:18:49 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> isnt that link right? 17:18:54 <fedi3bridgerbot> 'Untitled Image' uploaded by CarlosRFS: https://i.imgur.com/fyiwnM8.jpg 17:19:09 <nasirhm> https://pagure.io/i3-sig/Fedora-i3-Spin/ 17:19:13 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> the repo in the pagure i already cloned 17:19:42 <nasirhm> Yeah, it's the same 17:20:00 <nasirhm> You would have to pull it again later today when our latest PR gets merged with i3 on live 17:20:42 <nasirhm> feel free to ping me on IRC if you've got any questions :) 17:20:47 <x3mboy[m]> firefox was already decided, because it's shipped by default by Fedora 17:20:47 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> packages session in that file? 17:21:09 <nasirhm> @CarlosRFS Packages Section* 17:21:35 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> what file * 17:21:38 <nasirhm> Here's the latest PR: https://pagure.io/i3-sig/Fedora-i3-Spin/pull-request/5#request_diff : 17:22:14 <nasirhm> @CarlosRFS how about having a quick chat on IRC after the meeting ? 17:22:43 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> okay... 17:22:48 <nasirhm> here* after the meeting. 17:23:06 <nasirhm> Hmm, so firefox is our browser by default 17:23:13 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> yes 17:23:18 <nasirhm> and it's open Floor now 17:23:31 <nasirhm> #action add firefox in the ks if not available 17:23:40 <nasirhm> #topic Open Floor 17:24:14 <nasirhm> x3mboy: You had some questions regarding the spin, kindly share them here. 17:26:08 <nasirhm> #chait x3mboy 17:26:14 <nasirhm> #chair x3mboy 17:26:14 <zodbot> Current chairs: defolos kk4ewt nasirhm x3mboy 17:26:45 <x3mboy[m]> Yes 17:26:50 <x3mboy[m]> I know the iso is WIP 17:27:47 <x3mboy[m]> So, some decisions to be made 17:27:58 <x3mboy[m]> Configuration at start looks great to me 17:28:08 <x3mboy[m]> I read you were discussing it 17:28:29 <x3mboy[m]> I remember we decided Firefox, as I commented before 17:29:22 <x3mboy[m]> There is no graphical network manager 17:29:29 <x3mboy[m]> We commented nmapplet 17:30:07 <x3mboy[m]> We should cover this: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:Desktop_test_matrix#Release-blocking_desktops:x86.2F_x86_64 17:30:15 <x3mboy[m]> As minimum 17:30:24 <nasirhm> Hmm, nm-applet sounds like a good idea to me (personally. I'm more of a fan for nmcli :D) 17:30:54 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> Some people dont like to deal directly with NetworkManager 17:32:04 <nasirhm> @CarlosRFS I agree. 17:32:45 <nasirhm> x3mboy: We've got package manager, image viewer, text editor covered from the link you shared 17:33:08 <x3mboy[m]> I'm using nmcli, but an indicator it's not bad 17:33:30 <nasirhm> add archive manager there, as we've got tar that can be used from cli 17:33:47 <x3mboy[m]> tar? 17:34:35 <nasirhm> and we don't need a file manager or do we, (Making an assumption here, If i use i3, I think i would know how to use basic commands like cd, cat, etc) 17:34:36 <x3mboy[m]> We're kind of based on xfce so the one that sounds like a radio station is good 17:34:48 <x3mboy[m]> I'm not going to push my choice of file manager here 17:35:06 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> ok firefox and gedit added to Brainstorm 17:35:10 <nasirhm> x3mboy: We'got no xfce apps on us now :) 17:35:53 <nasirhm> CarlosRFS thanks for adding. 17:36:04 <x3mboy[m]> What do you think about file manager? 17:36:22 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> its strange but i use dolphin 17:36:42 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> or did you want one for cli? 17:36:49 <x3mboy[m]> defolos, kk4ewt, CarlosRFS, nasirhm ? 17:37:06 <nasirhm> I personally think we don't need a file manager, if I use i3, I would know how to browse for files on cli 17:37:24 * defolos uses pcmanfm 17:37:29 <x3mboy[m]> Same on gedit, and we are still shipping it 17:37:33 <nasirhm> If we go for a CLI one, I use rover. It's foll. 17:37:42 <nasirhm> s/foll/FOSS/ 17:37:55 <x3mboy[m]> We are already doing it with GTK, dolphin will pull a lot of qt libs that are heavy 17:38:06 <x3mboy[m]> I use vifm 17:38:20 <nasirhm> dolphin-- from my side. 17:38:31 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> yeah, 11 of then 17:38:48 <kk4ewt> make sure someone is working on the self change request which is due next tuesday bye 17:38:53 <nasirhm> I can be a little biased here with rover, as I've that packaged that on COPR: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/nasirhm/rover/ :D 17:39:17 <nasirhm> kk4ewt: We've got the draft wiki setup which i and jwf are working on :) 17:39:29 <nasirhm> kk4ewt: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/i3/SpinChangeProposal_Draft 17:39:56 <x3mboy[m]> Ok, so options are: pcmanfm or dolphin? 17:40:15 <x3mboy[m]> Thanksfully nobody is asking about nautilus 17:40:41 <nasirhm> I'm a -1 for dolphin for the qt libs 17:40:54 <kk4ewt> caja 17:41:45 <nasirhm> Voting time: 17:41:45 <nasirhm> pcmanfm or caja ? 17:42:56 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> i added gedit in i3-extended, i should put above? 17:43:09 * nasirhm thinks we're out of time and I've to take care of some work tasks. 17:43:17 <x3mboy[m]> pcmanfm 17:43:32 <kk4ewt> both 17:43:36 <nasirhm> <fedi3bridgerbot "<CarlosRFS> i added gedit in i3-"> We can add the to minimal one. 17:44:09 <nasirhm> I don't have any experience with both of them, so no votes from my side :) 17:45:09 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> Firefox i put in the minimal one cause the life without a browser its sad 17:45:41 <nasirhm> @CarlosRFS can you kindly add gedit to i3-minimal as well ? 17:45:46 <fedi3bridgerbot> <CarlosRFS> ok 17:47:05 <x3mboy[m]> So, we are good for now 17:47:08 <nasirhm> How about discussing about filemanagers and other mentioned cases on the test case wiki for workstation for the next meeting ? 17:47:08 <x3mboy[m]> You can close the meeting 17:47:15 <x3mboy[m]> Great advance 17:47:40 <x3mboy[m]> The HW detection is quite good 17:47:57 <x3mboy[m]> I never had to disable the pcspkr by myslef before 17:47:59 <x3mboy[m]> :D 17:48:17 <nasirhm> #action add a point about the Workstation testcases softwares on the next meeting's agenda 17:48:36 <nasirhm> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/i3/Brainstorm 17:48:37 <x3mboy[m]> Desktop testcases, not workstation 17:48:45 <x3mboy[m]> It applies to everyone 17:48:51 <nasirhm> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/i3/SpinChangeProposal_Draft 17:48:59 <nasirhm> <x3mboy[m] "It applies to everyone"> Gotcha 17:49:09 <nasirhm> #action add a point about the Desktop testcases softwares on the next meeting's agenda 17:49:18 <lupinix> .hello2 17:49:20 <zodbot> lupinix: lupinix 'Christian Dersch' <lupinix.fedora@gmail.com> 17:49:27 <nasirhm> Have a Good Day 17:49:33 <nasirhm> #endmeeting