2024-05-02 16:00:04 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> !startmeeting Infrastructure (2024-05-02)
2024-05-02 16:00:05 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-05-02 16:00:04 UTC
2024-05-02 16:00:05 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Infrastructure (2024-05-02)'
2024-05-02 16:00:10 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> !meetingname infrastructure
2024-05-02 16:00:16 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> !chair nirik zlopez nb bodanel dtometzki jnsamyak lenkaseg patrikp
2024-05-02 16:00:22 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> !info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra
2024-05-02 16:00:27 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/
2024-05-02 16:00:30 <@leo:fedora.im> hey!
2024-05-02 16:00:31 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> Fedora Infra documentation: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra
2024-05-02 16:00:35 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> !topic namaste
2024-05-02 16:00:36 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> morning
2024-05-02 16:00:49 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> Hello everybody! Welcome to Infra weekly!
2024-05-02 16:00:58 <@aggraxis:fedora.im> hello
2024-05-02 16:01:45 <@anshikavashistha15:matrix.org> Greetings to everyone 
2024-05-02 16:02:15 <@anshikavashistha15:matrix.org> !meetingname
2024-05-02 16:02:50 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> !topic New folks introductions
2024-05-02 16:03:14 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> Do we have any new folks here?
2024-05-02 16:03:24 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> !info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves
2024-05-02 16:03:28 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> Getting Started Guide: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/gettingstarted/
2024-05-02 16:04:06 <@aggraxis:fedora.im> I was new last week but didn't run away yet... :)
2024-05-02 16:04:23 <@farribeiro:matrix.org> !hi
2024-05-02 16:05:02 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Fábio Ribeiro (farribeiro) - he / him / his
2024-05-02 16:05:16 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> glad to see you here again!
2024-05-02 16:05:47 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> Hello! Are you new here? (if not, sorry :) )
2024-05-02 16:06:42 <@farribeiro:matrix.org> New to fedora and meetings... no 
2024-05-02 16:06:53 <@aheath1992:matrix.org> !hi
2024-05-02 16:06:56 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Andrew Heath (aheath1992)
2024-05-02 16:07:30 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !hi
2024-05-02 16:07:32 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Justin W. Flory (jflory7) - he / him / his
2024-05-02 16:07:33 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> Ok, great! (unfamiliar nickname for me, probably it's me who is not too long around) :)
2024-05-02 16:07:44 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> Hi Justin!
2024-05-02 16:07:45 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> !topic Next chair
2024-05-02 16:07:50 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> !info magic eight ball says:
2024-05-02 16:07:54 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> !info chair 2024-05-02 lenkaseg
2024-05-02 16:07:59 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> !info chair 2024-05-09 aheath1992 (or might be cancelled)
2024-05-02 16:07:59 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Nice, great crowd today. ;)
2024-05-02 16:08:18 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> any volunteer for 2024-05-16?
2024-05-02 16:09:46 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> Would be good to have one, in case it's cancelled next time
2024-05-02 16:09:54 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> Actually I can take it
2024-05-02 16:10:03 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> !info chair 2024-05-16 lenkaseg
2024-05-02 16:10:12 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> Moving on..
2024-05-02 16:10:29 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> !topic announcements and information
2024-05-02 16:10:37 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> !info CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 0800 UTC in https://matrix.to/#/#meeting-3:fedoraproject.org
2024-05-02 16:10:43 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> !info CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in #fedora-meeting-3
2024-05-02 16:10:45 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> You shouldn't have to run all the meetings. ;) But thanks for doing it.
2024-05-02 16:11:30 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> If we find someone who insists to chair on 16th, I'll gladly step aside :)
2024-05-02 16:12:07 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> I see no more announcements. Only tumbleweed there
2024-05-02 16:13:47 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, nothing really to announce off hand...
2024-05-02 16:13:56 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> oh, actually...
2024-05-02 16:14:10 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info list of instances still on f38 posted to the list
2024-05-02 16:16:00 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Oh, I have a quick one
2024-05-02 16:16:42 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info The Outreachy interns were selected today. Mehmet Baran will work with Aurélien B and Akashdeep Dhar on "Create a gateway from webhooks to Fedora Messaging"
2024-05-02 16:16:53 <@jflory7:fedora.im> <eof>
2024-05-02 16:17:10 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> awesome!
2024-05-02 16:17:57 <@aggraxis:fedora.im> excellent!
2024-05-02 16:18:27 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> Cool! We'll have a new contributor!
2024-05-02 16:18:33 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> Let's move on to ..
2024-05-02 16:18:38 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> !topic Oncall
2024-05-02 16:18:47 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> !info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/
2024-05-02 16:19:05 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> ##!oncall add <fas_name>
2024-05-02 16:19:10 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> !info nirik is on call from 2024-04-25 to 2024-05-02
2024-05-02 16:19:14 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> !info leo is on call from 2024-05-02 to 2024-05-09
2024-05-02 16:19:35 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> Any volunteer for 2024-05-09 to 2024-05-16?
2024-05-02 16:21:01 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> How would it work in case the next meeting is cancelled? The following oncall has to remember to take it?
2024-05-02 16:21:22 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, or we could get a new person.
2024-05-02 16:21:28 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I can take it...
2024-05-02 16:21:29 <@aheath1992:matrix.org> I ll take it 
2024-05-02 16:21:36 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> if no one else... great!
2024-05-02 16:21:43 <@aheath1992:matrix.org> im chair that week 
2024-05-02 16:21:50 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> I think aheath1992 was faster :)
2024-05-02 16:22:14 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> !info aheath1992 is on call from 2024-05-09 to 2024-05-16
2024-05-02 16:22:49 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> !info Summary of last week: (from current oncall)
2024-05-02 16:23:02 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> Over to nirik
2024-05-02 16:23:32 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> two pings I recall... one was about bugzilla2fedmsg stopping again. I was asleep, but Zlopez restarted it
2024-05-02 16:23:50 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> other was someone testing oncall. no action needed. ;)
2024-05-02 16:24:43 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> Thanks!
2024-05-02 16:24:47 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> !topic Monitoring discussion [nirik]
2024-05-02 16:24:52 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> !info https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios 
2024-05-02 16:25:01 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> Over to nirik again!
2024-05-02 16:25:33 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so. pretty good shape overall.
2024-05-02 16:25:48 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> much of the stuff there is due to old badges
2024-05-02 16:25:49 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> Ah, leo feel free to take your oncall turn.
2024-05-02 16:25:59 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> should be going away soon.
2024-05-02 16:26:16 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> then only some db servers that need to move to new rhel9 vms with more space
2024-05-02 16:26:17 <@leo:fedora.im> !oncall add leo
2024-05-02 16:26:19 <@zodbot:fedora.im> `!oncall` is an alias to `!infra oncall list` please use the `!infra oncall` command for changing the oncall list
2024-05-02 16:26:25 <@leo:fedora.im> ah, ok.
2024-05-02 16:26:34 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> You can't take it yourself. ;) we still need to implement that
2024-05-02 16:26:46 <@leo:fedora.im> ahh okay i misunderstood what taking it meant then :)
2024-05-02 16:26:53 <@leo:fedora.im> i do remember the old oncalltakeus
2024-05-02 16:27:07 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> I didn't know that :)
2024-05-02 16:27:26 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Yeah, the new bot doesn't have a take command... we should make sure there's a RFE for it.
2024-05-02 16:27:27 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> So how it works now? 
2024-05-02 16:27:45 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> someone who is an admin of the bot has to send it commands in a control room.
2024-05-02 16:27:45 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im>  I noticed people were not using that command lately :(
2024-05-02 16:27:52 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im>  I noticed people were not using that command lately :)
2024-05-02 16:27:57 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, it's harder on matrix it seems like
2024-05-02 16:28:05 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Open to ideas on how to make it work better...
2024-05-02 16:28:31 <@leo:fedora.im> what's the problem with people doing it themselves? a security issue?
2024-05-02 16:29:40 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I guess the thought was that we didn't want anyone to be able to add/remove to it... could be used for spam/anoying.
2024-05-02 16:29:50 <@leo:fedora.im> ah, right...
2024-05-02 16:30:05 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I wonder if we shouldn't just look at making it a git file/var and have the bot fetch it from there.
2024-05-02 16:30:25 <@leo:fedora.im> ah, and just do PRs?
2024-05-02 16:30:31 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> or I suppose we could make the bot check if you were in a sysadmin*  or apprentice group?
2024-05-02 16:30:34 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah
2024-05-02 16:31:22 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> What about allow only chairs here to take it/assign someone?
2024-05-02 16:31:35 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> Ah, but the same problem
2024-05-02 16:31:37 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> :)
2024-05-02 16:31:39 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> chair isn't implemented yet either. ;)
2024-05-02 16:31:40 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> I see it
2024-05-02 16:32:02 <@leo:fedora.im> the group solution sounds like a good one... would want to be apprentice before doing oncall anyway right?
2024-05-02 16:32:07 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> On top of it, now anybody can assign themselves to be a chair
2024-05-02 16:32:59 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> with the matrix meeting bot... chair has no meaning as far as I know. In the irc one only chairs could do some few commands like ending the meeting...
2024-05-02 16:33:43 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> https://github.com/GregSutcliffe/maubot-meetings/issues/8
2024-05-02 16:34:26 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so yeah, improvements can be made. ;)
2024-05-02 16:34:54 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> nirik: I interrupted you while you were talking about the Monitoring discussion. Is there something more on the topic?
2024-05-02 16:35:24 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> sorry, no... that shound be it from my point of view anyhow
2024-05-02 16:36:20 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> Let's move to the next topic then...
2024-05-02 16:36:29 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> And it is either:
2024-05-02 16:36:34 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> RHEL 7 EOL
2024-05-02 16:36:40 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> blocked tickets
2024-05-02 16:36:46 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> backlog refinement
2024-05-02 16:37:02 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> going straight for open floor
2024-05-02 16:37:07 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> Please vote!
2024-05-02 16:38:12 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> Fedora community has spoken!
2024-05-02 16:38:29 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ha
2024-05-02 16:38:40 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> (damn, where is the open floor topic...)
2024-05-02 16:39:12 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> ither I'm blind or it has dissapeared fro the board
2024-05-02 16:39:22 <@aggraxis:fedora.im> it's to the left of the salad dressing behind the bacon bits
2024-05-02 16:40:08 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> In the basement marked 'beware of leopard'?
2024-05-02 16:40:14 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> but I think it's at the very very end of the doc
2024-05-02 16:40:23 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> !topic Open Floor
2024-05-02 16:40:57 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Oh, I forgot to mention... in about 1hour 20min, meet up in noc and go over reinstalling proxy31. ;)
2024-05-02 16:41:03 <@leo:fedora.im> so do we have VM capacity in the openqa virthosts? i think you mentioned it nirik but we didn't really talk about it much
2024-05-02 16:41:44 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> I'll try to join! But not sure yet, it's out dinner time :)
2024-05-02 16:41:52 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> I'll try to join! But not sure yet, it's our dinner time :)
2024-05-02 16:42:15 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> leo: I haven't had a chance to look into it, but I can make a note to do so.
2024-05-02 16:42:32 <@leo:fedora.im> great! it really doesn't need much space ;)
2024-05-02 16:42:35 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I have a question, maybe someone can help me find it faster if it exists. Are there docs somewhere on Communishift provisioning? Or what the general process is to request an instance and gain access? I was thinking of sandboxes for incoming interns to play around with
2024-05-02 16:42:57 <@leo:fedora.im> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/ocp4/sop_communishift_onboard_tenant/ ?
2024-05-02 16:43:11 <@leo:fedora.im> though it's more technical docs
2024-05-02 16:43:15 <@jflory7:fedora.im> A skim looks like yes :)
2024-05-02 16:43:37 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Yeah, still interested in criteria, but this at least gets me somewhere for now
2024-05-02 16:44:11 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, there should be a doc. requests are via ticket with a template.
2024-05-02 16:44:21 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I assume a regular ol' ticket on pagure/fedora-infra tickets
2024-05-02 16:44:37 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Ah, a special template for Communishift
2024-05-02 16:44:37 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/communishift/
2024-05-02 16:45:15 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Oh perfect
2024-05-02 16:45:21 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I will include these in the onboarding packets for my interns
2024-05-02 16:45:22 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Thanks!
2024-05-02 16:45:31 <@jflory7:fedora.im> <eof>
2024-05-02 16:46:10 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> Here all the links together: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/communishift-now-available/
2024-05-02 16:48:06 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> Alright, if there's nothing more to discuss, let's take the 12 mins back!
2024-05-02 16:48:20 <@lenkaseg:fedora.im> !endmeeting