15:00:27 <zinebot[m]> #startmeeting magazine 15:00:27 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu May 19 15:00:27 2022 UTC. 15:00:27 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 15:00:27 <zodbot> The chair is zinebot[m]. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 15:00:27 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:00:27 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine' 15:00:27 <glb> 🔹 next topic 15:00:28 <zinebot[m]> #meetingname magazine 15:00:28 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine' 15:00:28 <zinebot[m]> #topic roll call 15:00:29 <zinebot[m]> #chair zinebot glb rlengland theevilskeleton 15:00:29 <zodbot> Current chairs: glb rlengland theevilskeleton zinebot zinebot[m] 15:00:50 <glb> .hello glb 15:00:53 <zodbot> glb: glb 'Gregory Bartholomew' <gregory.lee.bartholomew@gmail.com> 15:01:17 <rlengland[m]> .hello rlengland 15:01:18 <zodbot> rlengland[m]: rlengland 'Richard England' <rlengland@gmail.com> 15:02:06 <glb> Are we ready to get this show started? 15:02:39 <rlengland[m]> Start your engines 15:02:59 <glb> 🔹 next topic 15:02:59 <zinebot[m]> #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-magazine/workflow/ 15:03:00 <zinebot[m]> #topic agenda 15:03:00 <zinebot[m]> #info -- 1/ last week's stats -- 15:03:00 <zinebot[m]> #info -- 2/ articles in progress -- 15:03:00 <zinebot[m]> #info -- 3/ articles to review -- 15:03:00 <zinebot[m]> #info -- 4/ articles to edit -- 15:03:01 <zinebot[m]> #info -- 5/ publishing schedule -- 15:03:01 <zinebot[m]> #info -- 6/ editor of the week -- 15:03:02 <zinebot[m]> #info -- 7/ open floor -- 15:03:08 <glb> 🔹 next topic 15:03:09 <zinebot[m]> #topic 1/ last week's stats 15:03:19 <glb> #info Week of May 09: 105K pageviews -- more than twice the previous week; this is normal for a release week 15:03:27 <glb> 🔹 next topic 15:03:36 <zinebot[m]> #info Looking at the 'in-progress' column, is there something that's been finished? Anything to follow up on with its author? 15:03:37 <zinebot[m]> #topic 2/ articles in progress 15:03:37 <zinebot[m]> #link board: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles 15:03:38 <zinebot[m]> #info 087: Introducing Phyllome OS, a Fedora Remix targeting Desktop Virtualization (author: luzeal) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:03:38 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/87 15:03:38 <zinebot[m]> #info 059: Commands providing views into the system (author: zexcon) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:03:38 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/59 15:03:38 <zinebot[m]> #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=34935&preview=true 15:03:39 <zinebot[m]> #info 068: Spam classification with neural networks (author: fed500) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:03:39 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/68 15:03:40 <zinebot[m]> #info 072: Introduction to OpenFOAM (author: thunderbirdtr) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:03:40 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/72 15:04:12 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/60 15:04:12 <zinebot[m]> #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=33868&preview=true 15:04:13 <zinebot[m]> #info 102: Joining clients to Samba Domain Controller (author: dklima) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:04:13 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/102 15:04:13 <zinebot[m]> #info 120: Introduction to DIY Embroidery with Inkscape and Ink/Stitch (author: fed500) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:04:14 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/120 15:04:14 <zinebot[m]> #info 103: Fedora Linux editions part 1: Official Editions (author: armanwu) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:04:14 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/103 15:04:14 <zinebot[m]> #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36288&preview=true 15:04:28 <glb> I guess since we skipped going through these last week we should go through them this week? 15:06:17 <rlengland[m]> Probably. 87 No response last two pings, latest 13 days ago 15:07:22 <glb> OK. So I'll move that one to stalled then. 15:07:53 <glb> At some point we might even delete some of these if we don't think there is much chance of them being picked up. 15:08:02 <rlengland[m]> 59 no response for last 4 months lastest was one month 15:08:09 <glb> But for now, stalled is a good place to archive them. 15:08:20 <rlengland[m]> 👍️. 15:08:27 <zinebot[m]> #info 087: Introducing Phyllome OS, a Fedora Remix targeting Desktop Virtualization (author: luzeal) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:08:27 <glb> 🔹 next card 15:08:28 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/87 15:08:39 <glb> 🔹 move 87 stalled 15:08:40 <zinebot[m]> card 87 moved to 'stalled' 15:08:43 <TheEvilSkeleton> .hello theevilskeleton 15:08:44 <zodbot> TheEvilSkeleton: theevilskeleton 'Hari Rana' <theevilskeleton@riseup.net> 15:08:48 <glb> 🔹 next card 15:08:49 <zinebot[m]> #info 059: Commands providing views into the system (author: zexcon) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:08:49 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/59 15:08:49 <zinebot[m]> #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=34935&preview=true 15:09:14 <TheEvilSkeleton> zinebot update? The colors look pretty 15:09:24 <glb> 🔹 move 59 stalled 15:09:27 <zinebot[m]> card 59 moved to 'stalled' 15:09:36 <rlengland[m]> 68 responded 13 days ago 15:10:06 <glb> TheEvilSkeleton: no, zinebot has produced that color-coded output for quite a while now. 🙂 15:10:21 <glb> 🔹 card 68 comments 15:10:28 <zinebot[m]> comments:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/2a8f759df71562510a3edb1d57981871e1541677) 15:10:35 <TheEvilSkeleton> glb: I see. I never saw those colors on desktop. I'm using my phone right now 15:11:11 <glb> They probably only show up when you are using a Matrix client that supports them. 15:11:17 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/68 15:11:17 <glb> 🔹 next card 15:11:18 <zinebot[m]> #info 068: Spam classification with neural networks (author: fed500) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:11:23 <glb> 🔹 next card 15:11:24 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/72 15:11:25 <zinebot[m]> #info 072: Introduction to OpenFOAM (author: thunderbirdtr) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:11:25 <zinebot[m]> #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=35214&preview=true 15:11:35 <glb> 🔹 card 72 comments 15:11:38 <zinebot[m]> comments:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/159a95eb5cb17c90e2ba130cd0978231e70e2ea8) 15:12:50 <glb> I think thunderbirdtr has been super busy with things on the websites and apps team. We should probably just be patient with this one. 15:12:55 <glb> 🔹 next card 15:12:56 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/60 15:12:57 <zinebot[m]> #info 060: Using Fedora Server to build a minimal desktop (author: nekon) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:12:57 <zinebot[m]> #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=33868&preview=true 15:13:12 <glb> 🔹 card 60 comments 15:13:12 <zinebot[m]> comments:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/8cf62ab09a9b908ac473750437e7b2d78849f7df) 15:13:58 <glb> This one still doesn't look finished. 15:14:05 <glb> Should I ping him? 15:14:40 <rlengland[m]> One more time perhaps. 15:15:32 <glb> 🔹 ping 60 @glaringgibbon: any status update for this article? 15:15:35 <zinebot[m]> Comment added 15:15:40 <glb> 🔹 next card 15:15:40 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/102 15:15:41 <zinebot[m]> #info 102: Joining clients to Samba Domain Controller (author: dklima) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:15:56 <glb> 🔹 card 102 comments 15:15:57 <zinebot[m]> comments:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/2f5272b09fb6ac5215f0f6c9176c08eb53047b69) 15:16:27 <glb> Oh. The comments got a little cross-wired on this one. 15:16:43 <glb> Some of those comments are actually in reference to the previous article he wrote. 15:17:13 <glb> But it has been over a month. So we should probably ping him again. 15:17:42 <glb> 🔹 ping 102 @dklima: any status updates for this article? 15:17:44 <zinebot[m]> Comment added 15:17:45 <rlengland[m]> 👍️. 15:17:53 <glb> 🔹 next card 15:17:53 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/120 15:17:54 <zinebot[m]> #info 120: Introduction to DIY Embroidery with Inkscape and Ink/Stitch (author: fed500) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:18:31 <glb> Hmm. This one is a bit of a mess. It looks like the author uploaded the draft to the Pagure card. 15:19:49 <glb> Figuring out how to tell people not to do that might be a good issue for the workflow/theme revision work that we have slated to do. 15:20:16 <glb> Anyone want to volunteer to work with this author to get the content in the right place? 15:20:27 <rlengland[m]> Also, this opened by the author and I didn't find a proposal for it. 15:21:04 <glb> Oh. I missed that. 15:21:16 <glb> I wonder how we should handle this situation? 15:21:38 <rlengland[m]> fed500 has written before, have the not? 15:22:11 <rlengland[m]> *they 15:22:11 <rlengland[m]> Yes this is Benson 15:22:51 <rlengland[m]> I'll see if I can connect and get him to move the article to WordPress 15:23:04 <glb> Uh, wait ... 15:23:24 <glb> https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/introduction-to-diy-embroidery-with-inkscape-and-ink-stitch/39147 15:23:48 <glb> It looks like you approved the proposal and created the card? 15:24:06 <rlengland[m]> Yeah, sorry, brain fade 15:24:51 <glb> Whew. I guess it is just a matter of getting the content moved to WordPress and edited for publication then. 15:25:16 <rlengland[m]> I added the link to the proposal. I'll contact him. 15:25:20 <glb> We want the author to created the WordPress article though so that it is "owned" by the right person. 15:25:30 <rlengland[m]> Yep 15:25:54 <glb> So we'll leave this in the "in-progress" column until he gets that done. 15:25:54 <glb> 🔹 next card 15:25:56 <zinebot[m]> #info 103: Fedora Linux editions part 1: Official Editions (author: armanwu) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:25:56 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/103 15:25:56 <zinebot[m]> #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36288&preview=true 15:26:13 <glb> 🔹 card 103 comments 15:26:15 <zinebot[m]> comments:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/c1a9742b0c1a28458609710929f7e4537a4d7f5f) 15:27:03 <glb> This author has written several articles for us in the past. I'm sure we just need to give him more time. 15:27:08 <zinebot[m]> card not found or end of column 15:27:08 <glb> 🔹 next card 15:27:51 <glb> yay \o/ 15:28:12 <rlengland[m]> :-) 15:28:23 <glb> I was looking for an emoji for that, but I couldn't get one to autocomplete. 🙂 15:28:36 <glb> Ah, yes, the tada. 15:28:48 <glb> 🎉 15:29:02 <glb> That works. 🙂 15:29:10 <glb> 🔹 next topic 15:29:10 <zinebot[m]> #info Are there any upcoming test days? 15:29:11 <zinebot[m]> #link https://calendar.fedoraproject.org/QA/ 15:29:19 <glb> 🔹 show testdays 15:29:19 <zinebot[m]> #info no test days found between 2022-05-15 and 2022-06-05 15:29:26 <glb> 🔹 next topic 15:29:26 <zinebot[m]> #info Check the release schedule. 15:29:27 <zinebot[m]> #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-36/f-36-magazine-tasks.html 15:29:32 <glb> 🔹 next topic 15:29:38 <zinebot[m]> #info Looking at the 'review' column, let's decide which articles are good to go. Move each either to the 'to-edit' (finished) column or to the 'in-progress' (needs more work) column and provide feedback. 15:29:39 <zinebot[m]> #topic 3/ articles to review 15:29:39 <zinebot[m]> #link board: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles 15:29:39 <zinebot[m]> no cards found in the 'review' column 15:30:06 <glb> It looks like it is going to be another slow week. 😕 15:31:43 <glb> On the plus side, I guess that will give us more time to work on the theme. 🙂 15:31:50 <glb> 🔹 next topic 15:31:57 <zinebot[m]> #topic 4/ articles to edit 15:31:58 <zinebot[m]> #info Looking at the 'to-edit' column, assign an editor and a cover image creator. 15:31:58 <zinebot[m]> #link board: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles 15:31:58 <zinebot[m]> no cards found in the 'to-edit' column 15:32:23 <rlengland[m]> And you'll be down one person, since I won't be here 15:32:49 <glb> rlengland: will you be here for the meeting next week? 15:33:43 <rlengland[m]> No, I depart on Wed. and won' be here for the next 2 15:34:03 <glb> I may cancel those meetings then. 15:34:21 <glb> Will you be doing any work async? 15:35:12 <rlengland[m]> For the most part I'll be moving boxes and driving a truck so it will be sporadic 15:35:49 <rlengland[m]> Perhaps in the evenings I can check in and get something done but I'd not plan on any great throughput 15:35:54 <glb> I won't wait on you to approve article proposals that might come in over the next two weeks then. 15:36:40 <glb> Though I guess TheEvilSkeleton could still give the second +1 for the article proposals? 15:36:46 <rlengland[m]> Good idea 15:37:03 <TheEvilSkeleton> +1 15:38:26 <glb> OK then. Be sure that you are following the Fedora Magazine workflow topic on the Discussion forum and I'll give you a little bit of time to provide feedback on article proposals. Whoever gives the second +1 is supposed to create the Pagure card. 15:39:29 <TheEvilSkeleton> Sure. I there a way I can get notifications? 15:39:47 <TheEvilSkeleton> Email notifications preferably 15:39:51 <glb> #action rlengland to work with author of #120 to get content moved to WordPress. 15:40:03 <rlengland[m]> +1 15:40:43 <glb> TheEvilSkeleton: yes, you should be able to configure email notifications by following that category. 15:41:00 <glb> It is under your profile preferences somewhere. 15:41:17 <glb> That might be another thing that should be documented somewhere. 15:41:31 <TheEvilSkeleton> glb: Thanks. I just configured it 15:41:50 <glb> 🔹 next topic 15:41:54 <zinebot[m]> #topic 5/ publishing schedule 15:41:55 <zinebot[m]> #info Looking at the 'to-edit' column, decide the publishing schedule for the upcomming week. 15:41:55 <zinebot[m]> #info If there is not enough content, we might also need to look at the 'in-progress' or even the 'ideas' columns come up with additional content. 15:41:55 <zinebot[m]> #link board: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles 15:41:55 <zinebot[m]> no cards found in the 'to-edit' column 15:42:00 <glb> 🔹 show proposed 15:42:04 <zinebot[m]> #proposed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: There are no articles to be edited. 15:42:19 <glb> I guess there isn't much to "+1". 15:42:25 <glb> 🔹 show agreed 15:42:29 <zinebot[m]> #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: There are no articles to be edited. 15:42:35 <glb> 🔹 next topic 15:42:35 <zinebot[m]> #topic 6/ editor of the week 15:42:48 <glb> 🔹 eotw glb 15:42:48 <zinebot[m]> #info glb will be editor of the week starting Sun 22 May 2022 15:42:53 <zinebot[m]> #topic 7/ open floor 15:42:53 <glb> 🔹 next topic 15:43:38 <glb> OK. Since there aren't any articles to edit, we should have plenty of time for theme updates. 🙂 15:43:58 <TheEvilSkeleton> I was gonna ask about that lol 15:44:01 <glb> Have people had time to review the usability study? 15:44:32 <TheEvilSkeleton> I only watched 10 minutes but I had to go after that. I forgot about it later 15:44:34 <rlengland[m]> I've not, regrettabley 15:44:49 <rlengland[m]> 😦. 15:44:57 <glb> It's OK. 15:45:08 <glb> It's not really part of our "normal" workflow. 15:45:23 <rlengland[m]> I know...."slackers" 15:45:24 <glb> But it probably is something that we should review from time to time. 15:46:01 <glb> Are there any questions about what needs to be done or how to do it? 15:46:02 <rlengland[m]> I did, however, do the sidebar update text. 15:46:31 <rlengland[m]> Are there any process changes for testing the edits? Are the docs up to date for that? 15:46:59 <glb> And I saw that you approved my documentation update PR too. Thanks for that! 🙂 15:48:30 <glb> Well, yes, I changed the testing system to use Podman instead of Vagrant. But had any of you used the previous Vagrant system before? 15:49:04 <rlengland[m]> I believe I did when we moved to Pagure 15:49:12 <glb> If you had used the previous system, then I guess it wasn't a "change" from your perspective?! 15:49:30 <glb> You've done a theme update before? 15:49:57 <rlengland[m]> oh..oops, not the theme that was the documentation update, sorry. 15:50:06 <rlengland[m]> I'm not awake, it would seem 15:50:15 <glb> Yeah, so the documentation has always used Podman. 15:50:30 <glb> But the theme previously used Vagrant. 15:51:02 <glb> I tried to rename the scripts and processes for updating the theme so that they would be similar to how the documentation is updated. 15:52:06 <glb> Most everything is just text files. So just edit whatever needs changed, test it locally, and submit a PR. 15:52:46 <glb> One thing to note about the theme repo is that what it there doesn't automatically go live (unlike with the documentation repo). 15:53:34 <glb> Rather, a WordPress admin has to create a zip archive of the contents of the repo and upload that to the WordPress site through the admin control panel. 15:53:58 <glb> So you don't have to worry too much about submitting a bad PR. 15:54:54 <glb> But whoever is going to actually update the theme should definitely test the repo locally before the zip it and upload it. 15:56:10 <glb> Please also be sure you are working from the latest version of the repo (as always). Try to submit your PRs against the current head/tip on the upstream repo. 15:56:50 <glb> s/the/they/ 15:57:23 <rlengland[m]> In summary then the process is similar to the magazine docs except for the zip/upload steps 15:57:25 <glb> s/it/is/ 15:57:41 <glb> rlengland: Yep. It is now. 🙂 15:58:10 <rlengland[m]> :-) 15:58:22 <rlengland[m]> Good work. 15:59:11 <glb> So I'll let you guys go ahead and have a few tries at updating things. I'll just be keeping an eye out for PRs and approving them. 🙂 15:59:56 <glb> Well, it looks like we are out of time. 16:00:35 <rlengland[m]> This could tax my git abilities but we'll give it a shot. 16:00:45 <rlengland[m]> :-) 16:00:58 <TheEvilSkeleton> I might try to contribute a bit 16:01:15 <TheEvilSkeleton> Do you have an update on the suggestions I made in the issue tracker? 16:02:05 <glb> I don't recall any of them being too problematic. I think you can go ahead at try to implement a few of them if you want. 16:02:16 <TheEvilSkeleton> Sure 16:02:27 <TheEvilSkeleton> They're not problematic, but they're visually better 16:03:08 <glb> Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say. 🙂 16:03:41 <glb> OK then ... 16:03:45 <glb> #endmeeting