2024-04-23 16:03:43 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !startmeeting RELENG (2024-04-23)
2024-04-23 16:03:45 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-04-23 16:03:43 UTC
2024-04-23 16:03:45 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'RELENG (2024-04-23)'
2024-04-23 16:03:48 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !meetingname releng
2024-04-23 16:03:54 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !chair nirik sharkcz pbrobinson phsmoura dustymabe jednorozec jnsamyak patrikp
2024-04-23 16:03:59 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Meeting is 60 minutes MAX. At the end of 60, it stop
2024-04-23 16:04:04 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> morning.
2024-04-23 16:04:07 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info agenda is at https://hackmd.io/vm6biLBcTYKtkQUH5kQkmw
2024-04-23 16:04:12 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Hope this is the right time now. ;)
2024-04-23 16:04:13 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic init process
2024-04-23 16:04:21 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Helllo happy release day folks!
2024-04-23 16:04:27 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Andddd drumrollll
2024-04-23 16:04:31 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Good evening. 👋
2024-04-23 16:04:35 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info F40 is OUT!!!
2024-04-23 16:04:37 <@leo:fedora.im> happy release day!
2024-04-23 16:04:47 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> How is everyone doing today?
2024-04-23 16:05:08 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Thanks to a lot of hard work by a lot of folks! Kudos to everyone...
2024-04-23 16:05:10 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> patrikp: Hiya!
2024-04-23 16:05:24 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> leo: Hello, and yayy!
2024-04-23 16:05:38 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> jnsamyak: wanted to propose a new meeting topic/section moving forward if you are interested...
2024-04-23 16:05:51 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Exactly, perfect community effort 🩵 
2024-04-23 16:06:23 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yes pleaseee
2024-04-23 16:06:30 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> always up for feedback to do better
2024-04-23 16:06:32 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> A new section for 'scheduled actions coming up in the next week'. ie, look at schedule and list/discuss anything about items that are going to be due to be done in the next week.
2024-04-23 16:06:37 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I can restructure accordingly
2024-04-23 16:07:04 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> that way we know things are going to be coming up, we can discuss any that need more thought, etc.
2024-04-23 16:07:29 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> nirik: I like the idea, and this need not be release process specific inho
2024-04-23 16:07:47 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> or do you want to be just around it? Making it generic sounds like a good idea to me
2024-04-23 16:08:48 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah... I just got to thinking sometimes we forget release cycle things or need to decide who is doing them or need to adjust them
2024-04-23 16:09:06 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> being more practive and looking ahead a week would be good and this meeting would be a good time to do it.
2024-04-23 16:09:29 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> sometimes of course there may not be anything.
2024-04-23 16:09:42 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> absolutely +1 to this idea
2024-04-23 16:10:06 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I'll start inculcating it from next meeting onwards
2024-04-23 16:10:53 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> cool. ;) if it doesn't work out we can change, just a thought to try
2024-04-23 16:11:35 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> sure thing thanks for bringing this up!
2024-04-23 16:12:04 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Should we jump on the tickets, or do we have something else for the init process? I have one for the process but that's also a ticket so i'll take that up there
2024-04-23 16:12:21 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> move on...
2024-04-23 16:13:22 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic Tickets needing attention

2024-04-23 16:13:28 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info this is the time where you can bring releng tickets to discuss if there are blockers etc

2024-04-23 16:14:04 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12075
2024-04-23 16:14:05 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12075** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12075):**Cleanup post F40 Release**

● **Opened:** 9 hours ago by jnsamyak
● **Last Updated:** 9 hours ago
● **Assignee:** jnsamyak
2024-04-23 16:14:35 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> This was the ticket, i was talkign about, this I opened to clear our the unwanted or do cleanups post f40 release
2024-04-23 16:14:51 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> and to keep track so we can make it reference in one of the sops
2024-04-23 16:15:10 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> and not forget until someone comes up with the request!
2024-04-23 16:15:21 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I have a list of things to add to it / make sure are on it. ;)
2024-04-23 16:15:46 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> also we should ask this be added to the schedule, or the things on it each or something... so it's tracked on the schedule.
2024-04-23 16:15:46 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> awesome as always
2024-04-23 16:16:45 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> +1, will bring this up to aoife, what do you say should be timeline for this?
2024-04-23 16:18:27 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I think a week after for most of it... but... I guess it could be sooner or later.
2024-04-23 16:18:39 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I might want to do some of it sooner to free up disk space
2024-04-23 16:19:03 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I guess a week later next tuesday everything should be cleaned up as well
2024-04-23 16:19:25 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> but we can always start the cleanup process as soon as we release
2024-04-23 16:20:11 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> there's a few things that should be at least a week later.
2024-04-23 16:20:27 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> like moving mirrormanager from handing out development/40 to releases/40
2024-04-23 16:21:09 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> makes sense; 
2024-04-23 16:21:30 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I'll add a note about it, and will be looking for the list that you already have!
2024-04-23 16:21:56 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> okay moving on to the next one!
2024-04-23 16:22:02 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12070

2024-04-23 16:22:07 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12070** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12070):**fedora-scm-requests should allow branch creation for proven packers**

● **Opened:** 4 days ago by zbyszek
● **Last Updated:** a day ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-04-23 16:22:10 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I think we should close this one as invalid, or do we want to talk more about this?
2024-04-23 16:23:07 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I agree, but they haven't had a chance to reply back on it... so we could keep it open a bit more?
2024-04-23 16:23:14 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> either way is fine with me
2024-04-23 16:24:08 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> okay I can ping them once, and will take action post the reply
2024-04-23 16:24:37 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> For the retirement packages that were not retired properly i have foxed the script and made it run
2024-04-23 16:24:54 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> but I just have to run the last method which takes like 3-4 hours
2024-04-23 16:25:28 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> and i didnt get time during the release week, so once that done we will have the data ready for it, plus i'll open a pr against the updated script
2024-04-23 16:25:29 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ugh, thats a while...
2024-04-23 16:25:54 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yeah
2024-04-23 16:26:02 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12050
2024-04-23 16:26:04 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12050** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12050):**Modify tag2distrepo for f40-flatpak tags?**

● **Opened:** 2 weeks ago by yselkowitz
● **Last Updated:** 2 weeks ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-04-23 16:26:15 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I think we can close this one?
2024-04-23 16:26:51 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yep. close +1
2024-04-23 16:27:56 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> done
2024-04-23 16:28:05 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> okay 
2024-04-23 16:28:14 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> i need some quick updates as well from folks
2024-04-23 16:28:26 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 11673
2024-04-23 16:28:32 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #11673** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11673):**Fixes for release-candidate.sh in pungi-fedora**

● **Opened:** 7 months ago by kevin
● **Last Updated:** 6 months ago
● **Assignee:** patrikp
2024-04-23 16:28:55 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> patrikp: what's the status to it, we weren't able to use this in this release cycle :( I was hoping if we could test it out
2024-04-23 16:29:43 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, I think it should be ready? but we will need to wait for f41 beta to test it.
2024-04-23 16:30:00 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> :)
2024-04-23 16:30:39 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> i reviewed it today and i think still there are some dry mode on so asking patrikp what's up wiith that, is that intentional?
2024-04-23 16:31:01 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I'm not sure what you mean.
2024-04-23 16:31:14 <@patrikp:matrix.org> By "there are some dry mode on".
2024-04-23 16:31:36 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I incorporated the feedback I got from Kevin and I think it should be ready to go...
2024-04-23 16:32:16 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> oh i saw `-d` being used 
2024-04-23 16:32:20 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Dry mode is intentional, we don't want to remove that if that's what you mean.
2024-04-23 16:33:47 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I.e. you can use `-d` to see what it would run but you can also run it without it to actually produce a RC.
2024-04-23 16:33:49 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> okay then we can do the final review now right, did you try running the dry run once? I haven't i still need to test that out
2024-04-23 16:34:41 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I did, to me it looks like it does what it's supposed to, I'd appreciate a review. 🙏
2024-04-23 16:34:44 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I did when I was looking at it I think... I can look again if needed?
2024-04-23 16:35:13 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yeah okay the action is to do a review now
2024-04-23 16:35:21 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> moving on
2024-04-23 16:35:44 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I had to quickly run out again in next 10 mins so doing it quickly
2024-04-23 16:36:33 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 11914
2024-04-23 16:36:35 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #11914** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11914):**Unretire rpms/uniol-fonts**

● **Opened:** 3 months ago by mitradranirban
● **Last Updated:** 2 weeks ago
● **Assignee:** patrikp
2024-04-23 16:36:48 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Any blockers on this?
2024-04-23 16:37:39 <@patrikp:matrix.org> No blockers. There is this one and one more retirement. I'll do them.
2024-04-23 16:38:24 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yeah another one, I saw them they are over for more than 2-3 weeks was wandering if there was something wrong
2024-04-23 16:38:29 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> awesome than
2024-04-23 16:39:02 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 11358
2024-04-23 16:39:07 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #11358** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11358):**Sync RCs to alt/stg dl.fp.o**

● **Opened:** a year ago by sumantrom
● **Last Updated:** a year ago
● **Assignee:** patrikp
2024-04-23 16:39:09 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> patrikp: i think we can close this?
2024-04-23 16:39:20 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I saw there was a pr from you that got merged^
2024-04-23 16:39:49 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> well, this will be fixed by that previosu thing we just talked about right?
2024-04-23 16:40:09 <@patrikp:matrix.org> This is part of the release-candidate.sh script I believe, so it should get closed once the script gets merged and confirmed working.
2024-04-23 16:40:34 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah
2024-04-23 16:41:44 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I mean, we could close it now and say it will be addressed by that pr...
2024-04-23 16:42:02 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> or keep it until we use it at f41-beta (but we might forget to close it)
2024-04-23 16:42:23 <@patrikp:matrix.org> There is also one old issue about sending fedmsg that's also tied to the script.
2024-04-23 16:42:31 <@patrikp:matrix.org> !releng 7337
2024-04-23 16:42:33 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #7337** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7337):**Emit fedmsg when candidate composes are synced to stage**

● **Opened:** 6 years ago by adamwill
● **Last Updated:** 11 months ago
● **Assignee:** patrikp
2024-04-23 16:43:28 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, same thing. close now or close later. ;)
2024-04-23 16:43:36 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> we should keep one issue open atleast to track stuff out 
2024-04-23 16:43:47 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> as there is saying if there is no issue, the work never happened@
2024-04-23 16:43:54 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> :D
2024-04-23 16:43:58 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I would rather close it once the script is confirmed working and leave it open until then...
2024-04-23 16:44:07 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> and link all other issues there
2024-04-23 16:44:21 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> +1 to what patrikp said
2024-04-23 16:44:28 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> tht would make more sense
2024-04-23 16:44:44 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> sure, as long as we remember to do that in a few months...
2024-04-23 16:47:06 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> okay that's mostly issues i have to bring up
2024-04-23 16:47:37 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Folks if you have any issues that you would like to bring up?
2024-04-23 16:47:53 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> This is your time, or we can go to open floor!
2024-04-23 16:48:38 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I don't have anything specific right now...
2024-04-23 16:50:11 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic Discussion / All other Business / Blockers
2024-04-23 16:50:55 <@patrikp:matrix.org> GNOME 46 seems nice...
2024-04-23 16:51:31 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Oh yesss 
2024-04-23 16:51:31 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, as is kde6 too. ;)
2024-04-23 16:52:34 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Btw I had one more quick item that I brought on slack as well mostly for Anton Medvedev and patrikp do you folks want to chair this meeting once an awhile?
2024-04-23 16:52:45 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I use Debian on my personal desktop (don't tell on me) so I will have to wait for a while to get it there. :D
2024-04-23 16:53:04 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> nothing at all wrong with that. ;)
2024-04-23 16:53:09 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Yeah, I have already chaired it in the past, don't mind it.
2024-04-23 16:53:19 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> +1
2024-04-23 16:53:51 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Okay my only intention is to see if I could bring more releng participation somehow 👍
2024-04-23 16:54:06 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Awesome next meeting on you? It do you wanna do later?
2024-04-23 16:54:13 <@patrikp:matrix.org> From my experience many, many people eventually end up on Debian stable... It's like a safe harbor in a storm.
2024-04-23 16:55:00 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I should be here next week, I can chair it. 👍️
2024-04-23 16:55:00 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> sure, lots of folks end up with rhel too. :) but anyhow, use what you like / fits your case.
2024-04-23 16:56:05 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I did actually try daily driving RHEL on the desktop before.
2024-04-23 16:56:47 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I had stability issues which I falsely blamed on RHEL but it turned out to be a faulty motherboard. The software is even more ancient than Debian though.
2024-04-23 16:56:53 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> too boring for me, give me rawhide anytime. ;)
2024-04-23 17:00:09 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Awesome patrikp and time check folks!
2024-04-23 17:00:26 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Thank you all for coming.
2024-04-23 17:00:38 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !endmeeting