2024-05-07 16:00:58 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !startmeeting RELENG (2024-05-07)
2024-05-07 16:01:02 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-05-07 16:00:58 UTC
2024-05-07 16:01:02 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'RELENG (2024-05-07)'
2024-05-07 16:01:04 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !meetingname releng

2024-05-07 16:01:11 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !chair nirik sharkcz pbrobinson phsmoura dustymabe jednorozec jnsamyak patrikp
2024-05-07 16:01:18 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Meeting is 60 minutes MAX. At the end of 60, it stop
2024-05-07 16:01:25 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info agenda is at https://hackmd.io/vm6biLBcTYKtkQUH5kQkmw
2024-05-07 16:01:45 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> morning.
2024-05-07 16:01:50 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Hello everyone! Welcome to releng weekly!
2024-05-07 16:02:03 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Hello to all people of good faith. 👋
2024-05-07 16:02:05 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic init process
2024-05-07 16:02:43 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> 'm semi immoblized by a cat laying on an arm, but otherwise here. ;)
2024-05-07 16:02:56 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> haha nice
2024-05-07 16:03:10 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> do we have anything for init process or we can move on?
2024-05-07 16:03:47 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Oh that reminds me, we have a new topic for the meeting 🥁
2024-05-07 16:05:27 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> moving on it then
2024-05-07 16:06:03 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic Things/Actions coming up in the upcoming week
2024-05-07 16:06:42 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Here we list/discuss anything about items that are going to be due to be done in the next week
2024-05-07 16:07:36 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-41/f-41-releng-tasks.html
2024-05-07 16:08:32 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> not much right now, its the quiet between the releases
2024-05-07 16:09:08 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> From f40 schedule
2024-05-07 16:09:09 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> REMINDER: EOL release final update push in 1 week	Tue 2024-05-14
2024-05-07 16:09:18 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> We have that on our list
2024-05-07 16:09:45 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> it's the silence before the storm :D
2024-05-07 16:10:17 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ah yes.
2024-05-07 16:10:26 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so f38 eol is next tuesday
2024-05-07 16:11:19 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> or wait
2024-05-07 16:11:38 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> the 21st...
2024-05-07 16:12:48 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yeah the actual eol is 21st
2024-05-07 16:12:54 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, so next tuesday we need to send the '1 week left' reminder...
2024-05-07 16:13:02 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> it's just the final push needs to go in next week
2024-05-07 16:13:02 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> then eol is the week after
2024-05-07 16:13:21 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> not really the final push tho...
2024-05-07 16:13:30 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Do we have anything else for the upcoming next week that releng need to focus on apart from the release process?
2024-05-07 16:13:43 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> just a reminder that the final push will be in a week
2024-05-07 16:13:44 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Any tickets here, that needs to be taken care of urgently?
2024-05-07 16:14:08 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yes reminder of final push
2024-05-07 16:14:38 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> this meeting is always a odd time, I need to learn to context switch quickly
2024-05-07 16:14:50 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> sorry, we could look at moving it? ;)
2024-05-07 16:15:39 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> this is the best time 
2024-05-07 16:15:44 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Always tricky with timezones.
2024-05-07 16:15:47 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> i guess that fit all of us
2024-05-07 16:15:57 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> if not let's move on to the next topic 
2024-05-07 16:15:59 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, timezones are the worst. ;(
2024-05-07 16:16:16 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic Tickets needing attention
2024-05-07 16:16:24 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info this is the time where you can bring releng tickets to discuss if there are blockers etc
2024-05-07 16:17:25 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !releng 12050
2024-05-07 16:17:27 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12050** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12050):**Modify tag2distrepo for f40-flatpak tags?**

● **Opened:** a month ago by yselkowitz
● **Last Updated:** a month ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-05-07 16:17:32 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I did this, we can close it?
2024-05-07 16:17:47 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yes +1
2024-05-07 16:18:40 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I think we also added this in our prs for future creation at time of branching
2024-05-07 16:18:45 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> so this close close
2024-05-07 16:19:14 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> :)
2024-05-07 16:19:31 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !releng 11939
2024-05-07 16:19:33 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #11939** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11939):**Fedora 40 Mass Branching Tracker**

● **Opened:** 3 months ago by jnsamyak
● **Last Updated:** 3 months ago
● **Assignee:** jnsamyak
2024-05-07 16:19:54 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> were we keeping this open for docs changes? or ?
2024-05-07 16:20:02 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> This needs some work from me to go to docs, i shall close this by eow
2024-05-07 16:20:26 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> as soon as i get some time to write meaningful words
2024-05-07 16:20:26 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ok, cool.
2024-05-07 16:20:46 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12028
2024-05-07 16:20:49 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12028** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12028):**Package retirements are broken in rawhide**

● **Opened:** a month ago by gotmax23
● **Last Updated:** a day ago
● **Assignee:** kevin
2024-05-07 16:21:14 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> So coming back to this, I managed to fix a script (I'll iopen a pr for this as well tomorrow)
2024-05-07 16:21:30 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> And here is the full list: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12028#comment-908199
2024-05-07 16:21:52 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> those were retired in dist-git but failed at PDC
2024-05-07 16:22:51 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> thats kinda hard to read... I guess it's json tho?
2024-05-07 16:23:17 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> or no, just an array?
2024-05-07 16:24:01 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> array [Package: <> Branch: <>, ...]
2024-05-07 16:24:38 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> thats... a lot of packages.
2024-05-07 16:24:53 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I guess i could make it like a array of dictionary? And write a script to do stuff for it?
2024-05-07 16:25:24 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> nirik: i was thinking that tooo and that's why it took time? But, then i checked two three packages and the results were okay
2024-05-07 16:26:36 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> an additional datapoint might be if they are blocked already
2024-05-07 16:27:38 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> seems like many are? which means it's just pdc thats been wrong all this time...
2024-05-07 16:28:03 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> oh yeah i checked it and it shows blocked for rawhide for example;
2024-05-07 16:28:45 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> if they are all blocked, we could possibly just not care... since pdc is going away soon and the new scripts figures out retirements based on the dead.package...
2024-05-07 16:29:11 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I guess the interesting ones are the ones that are not blocked (if any)
2024-05-07 16:29:21 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> okay so i'll try to incorporate this check once
2024-05-07 16:29:26 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> and see how much we could cut it
2024-05-07 16:30:21 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, sounds good.
2024-05-07 16:30:28 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> we can move on, I'll start working on this thrusday, I just need to focus on cleanup stuff i was out today coudlnt get much of it done
2024-05-07 16:30:49 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12086
2024-05-07 16:30:51 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12086** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12086):**Combine the three post-release stable composes: updates, cloud, container**

● **Opened:** 6 days ago by adamwill
● **Last Updated:** 4 days ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-05-07 16:31:54 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> if we want to combine things into bodhi I don't have too much objection... would save us from dealing with more scripts...
2024-05-07 16:32:05 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> i guess this will bring some work for releng 
2024-05-07 16:32:08 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> if we agree to it
2024-05-07 16:33:04 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> some, but not too much. it's just mostly pungi config...
2024-05-07 16:33:21 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yeah;
2024-05-07 16:33:26 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so moving fedora-cloud.conf fedora-container.conf over to -> ansible pungi.conf in bodhi
2024-05-07 16:34:10 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> have we agreed to it already?
2024-05-07 16:34:37 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I don't think so. ;) I'm fine with it, but if others think it's a bad idea for some reason...
2024-05-07 16:35:06 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I'll take a follow up :3
2024-05-07 16:35:46 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I can't think of too much downside really...
2024-05-07 16:36:31 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> +1
2024-05-07 16:36:35 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> we can move on
2024-05-07 16:37:43 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12001
2024-05-07 16:38:09 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12001** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12001):**Getting Rawhide + 1 keys at least 2 weeks before branching**

● **Opened:** a month ago by praiskup
● **Last Updated:** a day ago
● **Assignee:** jnsamyak
2024-05-07 16:38:44 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I think we can close this right, I can follow up with aoife on this in my same request to add a cleanup thing to schedule
2024-05-07 16:39:18 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, we just want to add it to the schedule...
2024-05-07 16:39:40 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> okay
2024-05-07 16:41:35 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12059
2024-05-07 16:41:38 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12059** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12059):**please retire shogun-data because shogun is already retired a long time ago **

● **Opened:** 3 weeks ago by sergiomb
● **Last Updated:** 3 weeks ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-05-07 16:42:57 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so yeah, this might have been one of those affected by retirements not working right.
2024-05-07 16:43:08 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so we should just block it in f40/f41 and close it.
2024-05-07 16:43:13 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> so same issue right? 
2024-05-07 16:43:36 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> nirik: how do you fix this at pdc end? I could block this in koji
2024-05-07 16:43:46 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, but I'd just manually block this one and close... no need for more tickets
2024-05-07 16:44:08 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> okay
2024-05-07 16:44:12 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> for pdc, you need to run that 'adjust-eol' script.
2024-05-07 16:44:25 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> and set eol to... whenever the dead.package was committed.
2024-05-07 16:44:35 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> but I see it appears in your list from the other ticket. ;)
2024-05-07 16:45:29 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so, I think just blocking it in f40 / f41 would be fine, and we can deal with pdc the same way we do for other stuff on the list you had.
2024-05-07 16:46:10 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> don, I'll do it and close post meeting
2024-05-07 16:46:17 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> that's all from my lot today
2024-05-07 16:48:09 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> if not anything else? we can close off
2024-05-07 16:48:11 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ok. We are at 100 tickets. ;) we should possibly start looking at really old ones and closing em...
2024-05-07 16:48:17 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yes 
2024-05-07 16:48:21 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> we should
2024-05-07 16:48:29 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> but doesn't have to be right now for sure. ;)
2024-05-07 16:49:08 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I'll make sure to include that topic in next one, thanks!
2024-05-07 16:49:32 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Okay then..
2024-05-07 16:49:43 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic Discussion / All other Business / Blockers

2024-05-07 16:50:00 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I'm gonna for devconf next month
2024-05-07 16:50:12 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> nice! devconf is a good conference...
2024-05-07 16:50:14 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> finally gonna see some familar faces soonish ;)
2024-05-07 16:50:31 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> flock is not happening for me :/ so less familarfaces but yeah
2024-05-07 16:50:45 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> awww. ;( was hoping to catch up at flock...
2024-05-07 16:50:53 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yeah that's what i heard this is the first time I'll be attending it
2024-05-07 16:51:37 <@patrikp:matrix.org> We shall see each other at DevConf!
2024-05-07 16:52:47 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> ++
2024-05-07 16:53:52 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Have a wonderfull time there both of you!
2024-05-07 16:54:11 <@aggraxis:fedora.im> I'm planning on going to Flock. It'll be my first time o_O
2024-05-07 16:54:42 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> cool. Flock is a fun conference too!
2024-05-07 16:54:53 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Paul Maconi: that's awesome! i have heard flock is fun conference
2024-05-07 16:55:06 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> ;;on my go to list from last 2 years
2024-05-07 16:57:10 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> that's all for today folks!
2024-05-07 16:57:15 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Thank you all for coming.
2024-05-07 16:57:20 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !endmeeting