#meeting-3:fedoraproject.org log

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:00:42

!startmeeting RELENG (2024-05-14)

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

16:00:45

Meeting started at 2024-05-14 16:00:42 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

16:00:46

The Meeting name is 'RELENG (2024-05-14)'

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:00:54

!meetingname releng

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:01:04

!chair nirik sharkcz pbrobinson phsmoura dustymabe jednorozec jnsamyak patrikp

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:01:11

!info Meeting is 60 minutes MAX. At the end of 60, it stop

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:01:20

!info agenda is at https://hackmd.io/vm6biLBcTYKtkQUH5kQkmw

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:01:35

Hello everyone, welcome to the releng show! 🎉

<@patrikp:matrix.org>

16:01:46

Good evening. 👋

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:01:52

How's everyone doing today?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:02:01

morning

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:02:30

Let's start!

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:02:31

!topic init process

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:02:52

!info Day of learning is scheduled for May 17 on Friday. Many RedHatter(s) might be away on Friday, learning something new :)

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:03:13

!info Fedora 38 will be EOL on Many 21, 2024

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:03:21

!info Fedora 38 will be EOL on May 21, 2024

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:03:47

Are there any other updates for the init process that folks want to bring up?

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:04:48

Also this should be quick review on the PR (I tested it already today as part of post release cleanup): https://pagure.io/releng/pull-request/12104

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:05:34

The only bummer was that we were unable to find a way to disable the notifications that triggers email for mass closing of failed-composes issues

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:05:43

yeah. ;(

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:05:57

+1 on the pr...

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:06:45

But I'm keen to open a feature request on pagure if they could or someone can work on add this feature as a part of api which let's us set notify to True or False

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:06:51

nirik: thanks!

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:07:56

I mean in theory we could remove all users from watching, do the changes and then readd them, but... ugh

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:08:21

I was thinking rhe same thing but how wise is it :D

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:08:26

I was thinking the same thing but how wise is it :D

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:08:29

hehe

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:08:45

Let's move on to the next part of the show

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:09:19

!topic scheduled actions coming up in the next week

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:09:28

!info Here we list/discuss anything about items that are going to be due to be done in the next week

<@james:fedora.im>

16:09:49

I would bet a decent amount that "multiple lines all starting with '!' that aren't meetbot commands" are in the minority. Would probably even bet they are less than 5%, although that is likely going down as people learn it doesn't work anymore.

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:09:50

!info Fedora 38 EOL - May 21, 2024

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:09:58

!action jnsamyak will be sending an 38 EOL mail on the relevant lists post the meetings.

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:10:40

Any other issues/discussions, that needs immediate attentions this week?

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:13:16

Okay then, seems like this is the item of the week! We will move on to the next item

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:13:27

!topic Tickets needing attention

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:13:33

!info this is the time where you can bring releng tickets to discuss if there are blockers etc

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:13:53

!releng 12101

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:13:55

**releng #12101** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12101):**Missing F40 vagrant box** ● **Opened:** a day ago by zlopez ● **Last Updated:** 13 hours ago ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:14:32

So we have a request that Fedora's vagrant space misses F40 image.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:15:04

I don't know how it gets setup there.

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:15:09

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:15:19

i dont even see anything on the docs

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:15:20

we should find out and document/make sure we can do it

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:15:47

yeah, no idea

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:16:05

yeah I think I'll follow up on the same ticket to know more

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:17:48

!releng 12096

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:17:51

**releng #12096** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12096):** F41: System wide change: OpenSSLDistrustSHA1SigVer** ● **Opened:** 4 days ago by asosedkin ● **Last Updated:** 4 days ago ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:18:36

I don't think there is any releng impact

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:18:45

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:21:24

one interesting ticket that got opened, which nirik already replied to on the mail is

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:21:26

!releng 12098

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**releng #12098** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12098):** Renaming distribution media for Fedora Server** ● **Opened:** 3 days ago by jwhimpel ● **Last Updated:** a day ago ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:21:54

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/rel-eng@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/GYFDPKTVEGE3Q5Q66SNKVJPQUR3GXHYX/

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:22:30

Here we need to break things if we want to start looking into it somewhere something

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:23:21

yeah, we need to look at each part because theres different tools

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:23:31

I saw that nirik already added the points from where to start

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:23:52

This should needs a quick mini arc investigation?

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:24:05

s/should needs/qualifies/g?

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:24:09

s/should needs/qualifies/g

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:26:37

well, sure, I am not sure if I have cycles to look at it, but if you or others want to, sounds great to me. ;)

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:28:20

makes sense completely I agree - I'll at-least put this in our ThingsToDo Block of releng if I see someone potentially from releng side is free at-least to do an investigation it should be a good starting point imho

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:28:38

These were the tickets, that i wanted to bring up

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:29:05

If there is anything folks want to discuss please shoot them, othewise let's start looking at older tickets?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:30:28

so, how are things going on the post release cleanup...

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:30:36

!releng 1275

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:30:39

!releng 12075

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:30:42

**releng #12075** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12075):**Cleanup post F40 Release** ● **Opened:** 3 weeks ago by jnsamyak ● **Last Updated:** a week ago ● **Assignee:** jnsamyak

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:31:03

So most of the things ✔️

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:31:15

The failed-compoose tracker is done

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:31:32

RC/Beta cleaned up

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:31:54

compose/branched and /compose/40 cleaned up

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:32:31

Remove pub/fedora/linux/development/40 and pub/fedora-secondary/development/40 is left waiting for two week thing and will work on it on wednesday

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:32:42

And a quick doc for this

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:32:45

k, sounds good.

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:35:37

Let's dig those past tickets

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:36:23

!releng 6877

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:36:24

**releng #6877** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/6877):**Refine cleaning up packages with broken deps** ● **Opened:** 6 years ago by till ● **Last Updated:** 3 years ago ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:38:04

I haven't re-read that entire thing, but last updated 3 years ago tells me we should just close it and say 'hey, if anyone wants to work on improving this, come discuss a plan for that and offer to work on it'

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:38:25

this is a long read; but as tomas mentioned it that we are now using FailsToInstall packages

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:38:33

exactly

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:39:30

So, I think it's better than the start of that ticket, still perhaps not perfect, but oh well, leaving a ticket there for years isn't doing anyone any good either.

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:40:08

yes and i'm just putting a note there, seems like no one needed it since so long :)

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:42:32

!releng 7083

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:42:34

**releng #7083** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7083):**orphan-all-packages.py should remove bugzilla_contact entries from fedora-scm-requests as well** ● **Opened:** 6 years ago by till ● **Last Updated:** 2 years ago ● **Assignee:** humaton

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:44:37

i'm trying find orphan-all-packages.py in releng script

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:44:52

I am not sure what 'fedora-scm-requests' means here... I guess the old thing we used to use to map things?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:45:17

it's under scripts/dist-git

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:45:34

voila thanks looking

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:46:24

iirc is this something miro also uses?

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:46:47

I see mails coming for the orphaned packages etc

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:47:24

Those are already orphaned packages asking if anyone wants to take them on.

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:47:33

yeah

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:47:39

this script does the orphaning... ;) ie, gives all packages of a user to the 'orphan' user.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:47:53

which reminds me that I need to run it. :(

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:48:16

hehe, this needs access to pkgs machine right?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:48:20

!infra 11901

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:48:22

**Usage:** !infra <subcommand> [...] ● oncall <subcommand> [...] - oncall ● status - get a list of the ongoing and planned outages

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:48:24

Otherwise, I could help you out

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:48:29

!ticket 11901

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:48:36

**fedora-infrastructure #11901** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11901):**Inactive packagers to be removed for the F40 cycle** ● **Opened:** 2 weeks ago by mattia ● **Last Updated:** a week ago ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:48:38

!ticket 11901

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:48:45

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:49:08

well, the script needs just a token... which you might have. Removing people from packager group requires ipa server access.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:49:58

if you wanted to do the orphaning side of this, that would be just fine for me. ;) but we need to coordinate and do that at the same time as removing from packager

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:51:29

anyhow, I can try and just do it soon, we are getting sidetracked. ;)

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:51:51

on 7083, I think we should close it as no longer needed/matters.

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:52:04

okay yeah go ahead i was just curious and started looking things like api token etc

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:52:22

yep, I will just confirm it once and close tomorrow

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:52:40

!action jnsamyak to talk to tomas about the 7083 issue and close post that

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:52:57

!releng 7337

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:52:59

**releng #7337** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7337):**Emit fedmsg when candidate composes are synced to stage** ● **Opened:** 6 years ago by adamwill ● **Last Updated:** 12 months ago ● **Assignee:** patrikp

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:53:11

I see patrikp is assigned to it

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:53:15

This will be hopefully fixed by that release-candidate thing...

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:53:21

which is waiting to merge?

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:53:30

still?

<@patrikp:matrix.org>

16:53:39

Yup, this is one of the tickets that should be solved by the script.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:53:55

IMHO, we should just merge it now, try it for the f41 beta and if there's problems deal with them then. ;)

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:54:16

patrikp: can you close this ticket and point out to the one issue where you are discussing it?

<@patrikp:matrix.org>

16:54:31

You mean the script PR?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:54:35

does that change how we run that script? or is it the same? if it's the same, lets just merge, if not, we should update docs...

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:54:49

no it's not same

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:55:02

we need to change the docs for that patrikp can you do that?

<@patrikp:matrix.org>

16:55:18

Only difference is the label that's passed to it. I can update the doc.

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:55:46

yep a two liner explantion will be good

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:55:55

I just don't want us to miss that it changed when we rush to do a f41 beta rc. ;)

<@patrikp:matrix.org>

16:56:04

I.e. instead of Beta-1.3 it would be 41_Beta-1.3

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:56:05

<@patrikp:matrix.org>

16:56:27

There's also a comment in the script itself with the expected argument but I can update the SOP.

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:56:32

add that to the doc with explanation and example so it would be easier to figure out

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:56:43

oh also, we should document that script adamw made to make pungi config files for fedora-beta.conf / fedora-final.conf based on fedora.conf

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:57:12

yes that also, can you do that as part of this doc change patrikp ?

<@patrikp:matrix.org>

16:57:33

I'm not sure I know what you mean...

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:57:43

https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/pull-request/1276

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:58:25

yeah, that.

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:58:40

Adam created this script that creates fedora-beta and fedora-final conf as per the fedora.conf that release-candidate script uses inorder to create beta and final rcs

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:58:58

saves us from stupid mistakes making those manually. ;)

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:59:03

hehe

<@patrikp:matrix.org>

16:59:43

So note in the RC SOP that this script should be used?

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

16:59:55

so just add this in beta and final docs in the starting where you are gonna update the rc script command to use this script in order to create the confs

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:00:02

yeah, exactly.

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

17:00:14

nirik: yes, thanks for attending :D

<@patrikp:matrix.org>

17:00:14

Alright. 👍️

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

17:00:23

Awesome thanks!

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

17:00:36

patrikp: are you up for chairing next meeting?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:00:38

thanks jnsamyak and patrikp!

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

17:00:46

if not, I can volunteer

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

17:00:47

<@patrikp:matrix.org>

17:00:52

I think I should be here so no problem.

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

17:01:02

Awesome patrikp, thanks! :D

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

17:01:15

!info nect chair May 21 - patrikp

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

17:01:19

!info next chair May 21 - patrikp

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

17:01:30

!info Thank you all for coming.

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

17:01:54

!endmeeting