2024-05-14 16:00:42 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !startmeeting RELENG (2024-05-14)
2024-05-14 16:00:45 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-05-14 16:00:42 UTC
2024-05-14 16:00:46 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'RELENG (2024-05-14)'
2024-05-14 16:00:54 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !meetingname releng
2024-05-14 16:01:04 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !chair nirik sharkcz pbrobinson phsmoura dustymabe jednorozec jnsamyak patrikp
2024-05-14 16:01:11 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Meeting is 60 minutes MAX. At the end of 60, it stop

2024-05-14 16:01:20 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info agenda is at https://hackmd.io/vm6biLBcTYKtkQUH5kQkmw

2024-05-14 16:01:35 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Hello everyone, welcome to the releng show! 🎉
2024-05-14 16:01:46 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Good evening. 👋
2024-05-14 16:01:52 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> How's everyone doing today?
2024-05-14 16:02:01 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> morning
2024-05-14 16:02:30 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Let's start!
2024-05-14 16:02:31 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic init process
2024-05-14 16:02:52 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Day of learning is scheduled for May 17 on Friday. Many RedHatter(s) might be away on Friday, learning something new :)
2024-05-14 16:03:13 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Fedora 38 will be EOL on Many 21, 2024

2024-05-14 16:03:21 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Fedora 38 will be EOL on May 21, 2024

2024-05-14 16:03:47 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Are there any other updates for the init process that folks want to bring up?
2024-05-14 16:04:48 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Also this should be quick review on the PR (I tested it already today as part of post release cleanup): https://pagure.io/releng/pull-request/12104
2024-05-14 16:05:34 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> The only bummer was that we were unable to find a way to disable the notifications that triggers email for mass closing of failed-composes issues
2024-05-14 16:05:43 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah. ;(
2024-05-14 16:05:57 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> +1 on the pr...
2024-05-14 16:06:45 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> But I'm keen to open a feature request on pagure if they could or someone can work on add this feature as a part of api which let's us set notify to True or False
2024-05-14 16:06:51 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> nirik: thanks!
2024-05-14 16:07:56 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I mean in theory we could remove all users from watching, do the changes and then readd them, but... ugh
2024-05-14 16:08:21 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I was thinking rhe same thing but how wise is it :D
2024-05-14 16:08:26 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I was thinking the same thing but how wise is it :D
2024-05-14 16:08:29 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> hehe
2024-05-14 16:08:45 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Let's move on to the next part of the show
2024-05-14 16:09:19 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic scheduled actions coming up in the next week
2024-05-14 16:09:28 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Here we list/discuss anything about items that are going to be due to be done in the next week
2024-05-14 16:09:49 <@james:fedora.im> I would bet a decent amount that "multiple lines all starting with '!' that aren't meetbot commands" are in the minority. Would probably even bet they are less than 5%, although that is likely going down as people learn it doesn't work anymore.
2024-05-14 16:09:50 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Fedora 38 EOL - May 21, 2024
2024-05-14 16:09:58 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !action jnsamyak will be sending an 38 EOL mail on the relevant lists post the meetings.
2024-05-14 16:10:40 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Any other issues/discussions, that needs immediate attentions this week?
2024-05-14 16:13:16 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Okay then, seems like this is the item of the week! We will move on to the next item 
2024-05-14 16:13:27 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic Tickets needing attention
2024-05-14 16:13:33 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info this is the time where you can bring releng tickets to discuss if there are blockers etc
2024-05-14 16:13:53 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12101
2024-05-14 16:13:55 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12101** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12101):**Missing F40 vagrant box**

● **Opened:** a day ago by zlopez
● **Last Updated:** 13 hours ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-05-14 16:14:32 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> So we have a request that Fedora's vagrant space misses F40 image. 
2024-05-14 16:15:04 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I don't know how it gets setup there.
2024-05-14 16:15:09 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> +1
2024-05-14 16:15:19 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> i dont even see anything on the docs
2024-05-14 16:15:20 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> we should find out and document/make sure we can do it
2024-05-14 16:15:47 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, no idea
2024-05-14 16:16:05 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yeah I think I'll follow up on the same ticket to know more
2024-05-14 16:17:48 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12096
2024-05-14 16:17:51 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12096** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12096):** F41: System wide change: OpenSSLDistrustSHA1SigVer**

● **Opened:** 4 days ago by asosedkin
● **Last Updated:** 4 days ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-05-14 16:18:36 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I don't think there is any releng impact
2024-05-14 16:18:45 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> +1
2024-05-14 16:21:24 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> one interesting ticket that got opened, which nirik already replied to on the mail is
2024-05-14 16:21:26 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12098
2024-05-14 16:21:28 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12098** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12098):** Renaming distribution media for Fedora Server**

● **Opened:** 3 days ago by jwhimpel
● **Last Updated:** a day ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-05-14 16:21:54 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/rel-eng@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/GYFDPKTVEGE3Q5Q66SNKVJPQUR3GXHYX/
2024-05-14 16:22:30 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Here we need to break things if we want to start looking into it somewhere something
2024-05-14 16:23:21 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, we need to look at each part because theres different tools
2024-05-14 16:23:31 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I saw that nirik already added the points from where to start 
2024-05-14 16:23:52 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> This should needs a quick mini arc investigation? 
2024-05-14 16:24:05 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> s/should needs/qualifies/g?
2024-05-14 16:24:09 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> s/should needs/qualifies/g
2024-05-14 16:26:37 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> well, sure, I am not sure if I have cycles to look at it, but if you or others want to, sounds great to me. ;)
2024-05-14 16:28:20 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> makes sense completely I agree - I'll at-least put this in our ThingsToDo Block of releng if I see someone potentially from releng side is free at-least to do an investigation it should be a good starting point imho
2024-05-14 16:28:38 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> These were the tickets, that i wanted to bring up
2024-05-14 16:29:05 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> If there is anything folks want to discuss please shoot them, othewise let's start looking at older tickets?
2024-05-14 16:30:28 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so, how are things going on the post release cleanup...
2024-05-14 16:30:36 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !releng 1275
2024-05-14 16:30:39 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !releng 12075
2024-05-14 16:30:42 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12075** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12075):**Cleanup post F40 Release**

● **Opened:** 3 weeks ago by jnsamyak
● **Last Updated:** a week ago
● **Assignee:** jnsamyak
2024-05-14 16:31:03 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> So most of the things ✔️
2024-05-14 16:31:15 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> The failed-compoose tracker is done
2024-05-14 16:31:32 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> RC/Beta cleaned up
2024-05-14 16:31:54 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> compose/branched and /compose/40 cleaned up
2024-05-14 16:32:31 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Remove pub/fedora/linux/development/40 and pub/fedora-secondary/development/40 is left waiting for two week thing and will work on it on wednesday
2024-05-14 16:32:42 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> And a quick doc for this
2024-05-14 16:32:45 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> k, sounds good.
2024-05-14 16:35:37 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Let's dig those past tickets
2024-05-14 16:36:23 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 6877
2024-05-14 16:36:24 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #6877** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/6877):**Refine cleaning up packages with broken deps**

● **Opened:** 6 years ago by till
● **Last Updated:** 3 years ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-05-14 16:38:04 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I haven't re-read that entire thing, but last updated 3 years ago tells me we should just close it and say 'hey, if anyone wants to work on improving this, come discuss a plan for that and offer to work on it'
2024-05-14 16:38:25 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> this is a long read; but as tomas mentioned it that we are now using FailsToInstall packages
2024-05-14 16:38:33 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> exactly 
2024-05-14 16:39:30 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> So, I think it's better than the start of that ticket, still perhaps not perfect, but oh well, leaving a ticket there for years isn't doing anyone any good either.
2024-05-14 16:40:08 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yes and i'm just putting a note there, seems like no one needed it since so long :)
2024-05-14 16:42:32 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 7083
2024-05-14 16:42:34 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #7083** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7083):**orphan-all-packages.py should remove bugzilla_contact entries from fedora-scm-requests as well**

● **Opened:** 6 years ago by till
● **Last Updated:** 2 years ago
● **Assignee:** humaton
2024-05-14 16:44:37 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> i'm trying find orphan-all-packages.py in releng script
2024-05-14 16:44:52 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I am not sure what 'fedora-scm-requests' means here... I guess the old thing we used to use to map things?
2024-05-14 16:45:17 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> it's under scripts/dist-git
2024-05-14 16:45:34 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> voila thanks looking
2024-05-14 16:46:24 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> iirc is this something miro also uses? 
2024-05-14 16:46:47 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I see mails coming for the orphaned packages etc
2024-05-14 16:47:24 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Those are already orphaned packages asking if anyone wants to take them on.
2024-05-14 16:47:33 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yeah
2024-05-14 16:47:39 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> this script does the orphaning... ;) ie, gives all packages of a user to the 'orphan' user.
2024-05-14 16:47:53 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> which reminds me that I need to run it. :(
2024-05-14 16:48:16 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> hehe, this needs access to pkgs machine right?
2024-05-14 16:48:20 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !infra 11901
2024-05-14 16:48:22 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **Usage:** !infra <subcommand> [...]

● oncall <subcommand> [...] - oncall
● status - get a list of the ongoing and planned outages
2024-05-14 16:48:24 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Otherwise, I could help you out
2024-05-14 16:48:29 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !ticket 11901
2024-05-14 16:48:36 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **fedora-infrastructure #11901** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11901):**Inactive packagers to be removed for the F40 cycle**

● **Opened:** 2 weeks ago by mattia
● **Last Updated:** a week ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-05-14 16:48:38 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !ticket 11901
2024-05-14 16:48:45 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **fedora-infrastructure #11901** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11901):**Inactive packagers to be removed for the F40 cycle**

● **Opened:** 2 weeks ago by mattia
● **Last Updated:** a week ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-05-14 16:49:08 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> well, the script needs just a token... which you might have. Removing people from packager group requires ipa server access.
2024-05-14 16:49:58 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> if you wanted to do the orphaning side of this, that would be just fine for me. ;) but we need to coordinate and do that at the same time as removing from packager
2024-05-14 16:51:29 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> anyhow, I can try and just do it soon, we are getting sidetracked. ;)
2024-05-14 16:51:51 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> on 7083, I think we should close it as no longer needed/matters.
2024-05-14 16:52:04 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> okay yeah go ahead i was just curious and started looking things like api token etc
2024-05-14 16:52:22 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yep, I will just confirm it once and close tomorrow
2024-05-14 16:52:40 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !action jnsamyak to talk to tomas about the 7083 issue and close post that
2024-05-14 16:52:57 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 7337
2024-05-14 16:52:59 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #7337** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7337):**Emit fedmsg when candidate composes are synced to stage**

● **Opened:** 6 years ago by adamwill
● **Last Updated:** 12 months ago
● **Assignee:** patrikp
2024-05-14 16:53:11 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I see patrikp is assigned to it 
2024-05-14 16:53:15 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> This will be hopefully fixed by that release-candidate thing...
2024-05-14 16:53:21 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> which is waiting to merge?
2024-05-14 16:53:30 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> still?
2024-05-14 16:53:39 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Yup, this is one of the tickets that should be solved by the script.
2024-05-14 16:53:55 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> IMHO, we should just merge it now, try it for the f41 beta and if there's problems deal with them then. ;)
2024-05-14 16:54:16 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> patrikp: can you close this ticket and point out to the one issue where you are discussing it?
2024-05-14 16:54:31 <@patrikp:matrix.org> You mean the script PR?
2024-05-14 16:54:35 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> does that change how we run that script? or is it the same? if it's the same, lets just merge, if not, we should update docs...
2024-05-14 16:54:49 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> no it's not same
2024-05-14 16:55:02 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> we need to change the docs for that patrikp can you do that?
2024-05-14 16:55:18 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Only difference is the label that's passed to it. I can update the doc.
2024-05-14 16:55:46 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yep a two liner explantion will be good 
2024-05-14 16:55:55 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I just don't want us to miss that it changed when we rush to do a f41 beta rc. ;)
2024-05-14 16:56:04 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I.e. instead of Beta-1.3 it would be 41_Beta-1.3
2024-05-14 16:56:05 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> +1
2024-05-14 16:56:27 <@patrikp:matrix.org> There's also a comment in the script itself with the expected argument but I can update the SOP.
2024-05-14 16:56:32 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> add that to the doc with explanation and example so it would be easier to figure out
2024-05-14 16:56:43 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> oh also, we should document that script adamw made to make pungi config files for fedora-beta.conf / fedora-final.conf based on fedora.conf
2024-05-14 16:57:12 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yes that also, can you do that as part of this doc change patrikp ?
2024-05-14 16:57:33 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I'm not sure I know what you mean...
2024-05-14 16:57:43 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/pull-request/1276
2024-05-14 16:58:25 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, that.
2024-05-14 16:58:40 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Adam created this script that creates fedora-beta and fedora-final conf as per the fedora.conf that release-candidate script uses inorder to create beta and final rcs
2024-05-14 16:58:58 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> saves us from stupid mistakes making those manually. ;)
2024-05-14 16:59:03 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> hehe
2024-05-14 16:59:43 <@patrikp:matrix.org> So note in the RC SOP that this script should be used?
2024-05-14 16:59:55 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> so just add this in beta and final docs in the starting where you are gonna update the rc script command to use this script in order to create the confs
2024-05-14 17:00:02 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, exactly.
2024-05-14 17:00:14 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> nirik: yes, thanks for attending :D
2024-05-14 17:00:14 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Alright. 👍️
2024-05-14 17:00:23 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Awesome thanks!
2024-05-14 17:00:36 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> patrikp: are you up for chairing next meeting?
2024-05-14 17:00:38 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> thanks jnsamyak and patrikp!
2024-05-14 17:00:46 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> if not, I can volunteer
2024-05-14 17:00:47 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> :D
2024-05-14 17:00:52 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I think I should be here so no problem.
2024-05-14 17:01:02 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Awesome patrikp, thanks! :D
2024-05-14 17:01:15 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info nect chair May 21 - patrikp 
2024-05-14 17:01:19 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info next chair May 21 - patrikp
2024-05-14 17:01:30 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Thank you all for coming.

2024-05-14 17:01:54 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !endmeeting