01:07:00 <morinoa> #startmeeting
01:07:01 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Apr 14 01:07:00 2010 UTC.  The chair is morinoa. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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01:07:10 <jadudm> zodbot: travel back in time!~
01:08:15 <ke4qqq> jadudm: so they just had vcs explained to them
01:08:29 <morinoa> my directory finished
01:08:37 <morinoa> yay!
01:09:40 <ke4qqq> and they will sadly need to learn the commands and stuff next
01:10:00 <jadudm> ke4qqq: Ah, yes. I saw that. Wasn't sure where it fit, but it was impressive.
01:10:13 <ke4qqq> soooo here's the 'problem'
01:10:20 <jadudm> We're a mixed group this evening, some building Cardboarduinos, some working on Fedora bits.
01:10:28 <jadudm> please, continue.
01:10:39 <ke4qqq> mchua offered up design spin webpage
01:10:45 <ke4qqq> design as a project
01:10:59 <jadudm> Right.
01:11:07 <ke4qqq> sooo all of that is stored in git
01:11:11 <jadudm> Ah.
01:11:28 <ke4qqq> fortunately mchua is a sponsor for the group they need permission
01:11:44 <jadudm> So, here's my thought for the moment.
01:11:50 <jadudm> When in doubt, follow the golden rule:
01:11:57 <jadudm> Er.
01:12:01 <jadudm> Well, here's my thought:
01:12:09 <jadudm> Don't worry about git at the moment.
01:12:25 <jadudm> Lets focus on content, and we'll worry about integration into the template when the content is actually developed.
01:12:41 <jadudm> I introduced a few more students to the Amazing World Of Wikis(tm) today.
01:13:03 <jadudm> Could they do content development on User: pages, and then we worry about integration as a next step?
01:13:12 <jadudm> Or, bring in ninjas?
01:14:02 <ke4qqq> content development
01:15:04 <ke4qqq> is a good idea
01:15:11 <ke4qqq> we can build the rest
01:16:20 <ke4qqq> and help with tht as well
01:16:25 <jadudm> aye
01:16:50 <jadudm> and I can as well, but I think we should do one step at a time.
01:17:00 <jadudm> certainly, that will be easier for me than having 40 people trying t ofigure out git. :)
01:17:04 <jadudm> I mean, I booger up git from time to time.
01:18:06 <ke4qqq> they are doing well at coming and communicating with us
01:18:47 <jadudm> shh! they're listening!
01:19:06 <ke4qqq> sorry -
01:19:26 <ke4qqq> it be nice if they went from one vocal speaker to multiple speakers communicating from us
01:19:33 <ke4qqq> s/from/with/
01:20:22 <jadudm> ah.
01:20:28 <jadudm> well, we'll see what we can do.
01:20:49 <jadudm> i think it's a side-effect of having multiple people in one physical space, which isn't necessarily the common pattern in FLOSS collabs.
01:21:16 <ke4qqq> yeah I told Mel they should all be forced to communicate over irc and not share the same physical space
01:21:19 <ke4qqq> :)
01:24:40 <rbergeron> indeed
01:29:34 * ke4qqq needs to step out for quite a bit
01:30:27 <morinoa> Thank you for your help! I have to go
01:30:38 <rbergeron> thanks morinoa -
01:30:46 <rbergeron> hope that explanation helped a bit :)
01:31:34 <morinoa> well for the most part =] the second half about branches and leaves lost me, but matt thinks i understand what I really need
01:32:09 * rbergeron nods
01:32:16 <rbergeron> yeah, that part is kind of where i get lost too :)
01:37:16 <morinoa> well at least I'm not the only one!  Thanks for the help!
01:39:00 <jadudm> #endmeeting
05:01:02 * mchua reads up
05:04:43 <mchua> That was freakin' awesome.
19:33:22 <jadudm> mchua: You hanging around this space?
19:58:58 <jadudm> mchua: You haz returned?
20:10:55 <mchua> jadudm: I haz!
20:10:58 <mchua> jadudm: Sup?
20:11:13 <jadudm> awesome-awesome.
20:11:20 <jadudm> I wanted to touch base w.r.t. t-shirts.
20:11:47 <jadudm> I called around and managed to find $12 ea for full color, one side, locally done @ 50 shirts.
20:12:11 <jadudm> @ 49 shirts, it jumps to $15.30 or so each.
20:12:20 <mchua> jadudm: Lovely. What's the next number it goes down in price at?
20:12:24 <jadudm> Er.
20:12:26 <jadudm> More.
20:12:36 <mchua> jadudm: It might be nice to print a bunch of small, medium, women's tshirts since we have basically *none* of those
20:12:42 <jadudm> Given that I was targeting 44 shirts, ordering 50 was reasonable.
20:12:47 <mchua> jadudm: and you want the ianweller splatter design?
20:12:47 <jadudm> Ah. I see.
20:12:50 <jadudm> Aye.
20:12:50 <ianweller> hi what
20:12:56 <jadudm> ianweller: go back to sleep
20:13:03 <jadudm> kidding!
20:13:08 <ianweller> (:
20:13:13 <jadudm> we're going to use your splatter design for the Allegheny shirts. they like it
20:13:16 <ianweller> i almost fell asleep in english today and lost 15 points for staying awake
20:13:19 <ianweller> jadudm: oh yay! :)
20:13:37 <jadudm> OK. So, I have a per-person list for shirt sizes, etc.
20:13:48 <ianweller> do you have the SVG already? if not i can find that really fas
20:13:49 <jadudm> Mel, do you want a bunch more that would be for General Consumption that might get sent back to you?
20:14:02 <jadudm> ianweller: i thought it was linked frmo the wiki page
20:14:18 <ianweller> i also have it at http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/fedora-splatter.svg if it's not
20:14:23 <jadudm> Yeah, it's there.
20:14:31 <ianweller> or is that a different one
20:14:37 <ianweller> i can't remember which one is the actual one...
20:15:19 <jadudm> I'm good either way. Thanks for the ptr.
20:15:21 <mchua> jadudm: Ok. Is it possible for you to place the order (since you and Darren will have to pick up the shirts anyhow and all) and send me an invoice, and I'll call them and give them my card?
20:15:27 <jadudm> Can do.
20:15:30 <jadudm> I imagine that won't be a problem.
20:15:47 <jadudm> We're using Sindee's, and I spoke with Sindee, and I'll walk down and give it to Sindee... so, Sindee might be cool with it.
20:15:50 <jadudm> :)
20:15:57 <jadudm> It should be easily done that way.
20:16:03 <jadudm> Sorry. It should be easy to do that way.
20:16:14 <jadudm> That was what I was going to suggest, anyway.
20:16:29 <mchua> jadudm: Ok. For the remaining 6 shirts... if you have extras you wouldn't mind bringing to Boston, women's medium is a great default for the rest (we have none).
20:16:40 <mchua> We've never made women's tshirts in Fedora, something I am determined to change. :)
20:16:46 <mchua> (afaik, anyway.)
20:18:14 <jadudm> OK.
20:18:17 <jadudm> I may end up with one or two more.
20:18:20 <jadudm> I was going to order...
20:18:28 <jadudm> 2 for the President's kids.
20:18:47 <jadudm> And... possibly one or two others that are good for promoting what we did here on campus.
20:18:54 <jadudm> Is that acceptable, or would you like me to buy those from my budget?
20:19:24 <jadudm> I can still add 3 women's small and 3 women's medium to the list, if you like.
20:19:39 <jadudm> Note, though, that Sindee's might not differentiate in their T-shirts.
20:19:49 <jadudm> In which case, they would just be small and mediums.
20:20:52 <mchua> jadudm: Oh, that's fine.
20:20:56 <mchua> "shirts that fit Mel and people similarly sized"
20:21:11 <mchua> we make very few medium shirts and no small ones at all.
20:21:17 <mchua> which makes me sad, at conferences.
20:21:20 <mchua> but this is changing!
20:21:40 <ianweller> jadudm: be sure to use the design on the wiki, because the one i linked to you is the one we did *not* print in FAMNA (but the one that is closer to the logo guidelines)
20:21:50 <ianweller> jadudm: i just don't want to have two different iterations of the same shirt floating around
20:26:03 * ianweller &
20:39:54 <jadudm> sorry... physical world
20:40:19 <jadudm> ianweller: noted.
20:40:24 <jadudm> i will download the wiki svg
20:40:35 <jadudm> mchua: so, to confirm:
20:40:52 <jadudm> i will order shirts to meet local need (roughly 44-47ish), and fill out order with smalls and mediums.
20:41:04 <jadudm> do you want to pick a number of smalls + mediums that I bring with me to Boston?
20:41:11 <jadudm> is 3/3 good? or, would you like a few more, or...?
20:41:21 <mchua> jadudm: Sounds good. 3/3 is good, bring whatever you've got left over to Boston when you come if you can.
20:41:26 <mchua> (and it fits in luggage, etc.)
20:41:38 <mchua> jadudm: When a credit card needs to be applied, let me know and I'll take care of it.
20:47:54 <jadudm> Sounds good.
20:48:04 <jadudm> As it happens, the order will not happen tonight.
20:48:15 <jadudm> They close at 5, and I was helping out in lab until... oh, now.
20:48:29 <jadudm> However, I'll place the order tomorrow AM. It should arrive for photo ops in time.
20:48:32 * mchua grins
20:48:43 <mchua> Ok. I'll have my phone with me tomorrow and should be available for creditcardness at a moment's notice.
20:48:54 <jadudm> I think they'll be pretty relaxed about this, so not to worry.
20:49:02 <jadudm> She may even be able to invoice you on paper.
20:49:08 <jadudm> I'll ahve the Boston office address with me.
20:49:17 <jadudm> Would that work, or do you much prefer CC?
20:51:05 <jadudm> well, i need to wander on (it's been that kind of day), but I'll aim for CC first, and we'll do an invoice mailed to you if that doesn't work out for any reason.
20:51:20 <jadudm> There shouldn't be any issues, really... they're local, do a lot of business with the college, etc., so this should be easy.
20:51:43 <jadudm> I'll also see if I can get the digital files from the designer back so they can be re-used by other t-shirt shops.
20:52:10 <jadudm> the image will need to be cleaned up/touched up for being turned into screens... technically, under the license, those should go back into the FLOSS world.
20:52:49 <jadudm> righto. will try and get online later if any followup is needed. things are just getting busier and busier as we head into the end of the semester...
20:52:52 * jadudm waves
14:58:54 * mchua waves to the class
14:59:07 <mchua> What are we doing today? One-page release notes team - sprint?
14:59:15 * mchua would love an update on how each of the class teams is doing
15:00:08 <brankf> feature profile page needs a spark plug to get going..
15:00:36 * sdziallas waves, looks around
15:00:42 <jadudm> brankf: what would help?
15:01:43 <brankf> jadudm: is there an example online?
15:02:09 <mchua> brankf: There is indeed. Join us in #fedora-mktg and I'll give you some pointers.
15:02:29 * jadudm waves to sdziallas
15:02:39 <sdziallas> hi jadudm!
15:02:48 <jadudm> (students are moving slowly...  they'll be joining as they filter into the room...)
15:03:30 <brankf> was there any solution to virtualbox + fedora + RAM issues?
15:03:41 <jadudm> brankf: we wonder if part of it was antivirus
15:05:50 <brankf> jadudm: so.. should i disable and try again?
15:06:07 <jadudm> brankf: we'll take another look
15:07:11 <zodbot> mchua: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.
15:07:11 <mchua> Oh. Zodbot must already be running.
15:10:43 <mchua> jadudm: I know you and Darren are probably running around the classroom like crazy right now, but what would help me a lot - in order to work with the class over the next hour - is an update from/on each team's status, and the ability to talk with at least one representative from each team at some point during class time today.
15:11:14 <gtho1> mchua: an answer to your question for my group at least is that Hannah is working on the Btrfs, Mat is working on 3D graphics, and I am working on the Color management. I have yet to do much, as I need to get Fedora to work right
15:11:17 <jadudm> mchua: we just put them on updates
15:11:21 <morinoa> I never ended a meeting from a few days ago...
15:11:33 <jadudm> i suspect a firehose will start momentarily?
15:11:38 <mchua> jadudm: BRING IT ON!
15:11:40 <morinoa> #endmeeting