15:06:10 <mchua> #startmeeting
15:06:10 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Apr 20 15:06:10 2010 UTC.  The chair is mchua. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:06:30 <mchua> I'm going to paste backlog here so people can see our prior discussion... apologies for the flood. One sec.
15:06:40 <mchua> 15:00 -!- kowenh [~kowenh@aldenv187.allegheny.edu] has joined #allegheny
15:06:40 <mchua> 15:00 < mchua> hey kowenh!
15:06:40 <mchua> 15:00 < mchua> class just started, I take it?
15:06:40 <mchua> 15:00 < kowenh> sort of
15:06:40 <mchua> 15:00 < kowenh> it's course evaluations
15:06:42 <mchua> 15:01 < mchua> kowenh: Ah, ok - should we come back later then?
15:06:45 <mchua> 15:01 < kowenh> so i'm the only one here. did mine before class b/c of the interview
15:06:48 <mchua> 15:01 < mchua> Gotcha.
15:06:51 <mchua> 15:01  * mchua lurking in the interview channel :)
15:06:53 <mchua> 15:01 < kowenh> excellent. you can help me out if you see i need it :)
15:06:56 <mchua> 15:01 < mchua> kowenh: do you know if the other students will be in at all today, or should I cook myself some lunch now? :)
15:06:59 <mchua> 15:02 < mchua> kowenh: oh, I bet you'll do great. I'll be there, though. feel free to ping if you have questions or whatnot, too.
15:07:03 <mchua> 15:02 < kowenh> they'll probably be trickling in in the next 15 or so minutes
15:07:05 <mchua> 15:02 < kowenh> well, before i start, do you have a good opening question?
15:07:08 <mchua> 15:02 < mchua> kowenh: Okeydokey. Looks like josef is in #fedora-meeting-1 waiting for you, and rbergeron is also there as backup.
15:07:11 <mchua> 15:02 < mchua> kowenh: oh, let me send you the questions I asked David, one sec
15:07:15 <mchua> 15:03 < kowenh> excellent. going now
15:07:17 <mchua> 15:03 < kowenh> thanks
15:07:20 <mchua> 15:03 < mchua> kowenh: look at https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Python_in_Fedora_13&oldid=165154
15:07:23 <mchua> 15:03 < mchua> kowenh: it's an old revision but it's rough and you can see the questions that we were asking for each featuer
15:07:27 <mchua> 15:03 < mchua> er, feature
15:07:29 <mchua> 15:04 < mchua> kowenh: it ended up being much more of a dialogue - see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Python_in_Fedora_13#David_Malcolm -  but those are the questions I wrote down beforehand to make sure that we covered everything I wanted to cover.
15:07:34 <mchua> 15:04  * mchua leaves you to the interview and goes to the meeting channel to watch
15:07:37 <mchua> 15:04 < mchua> good luck and have fun!
15:07:40 <mchua> 15:04 < kowenh> great. thanks
15:07:42 <mchua> 15:04 < kowenh> /join #fedora-meeting-1
15:07:45 <mchua> 15:06 < mchua> kowenh: type "#startmeeting" (no quotes)
15:07:47 <mchua> 15:06 < mchua> (in the meeting channel)
15:07:50 <mchua> 15:06 < mchua> oh, I should do that here
15:07:52 <mchua> 15:06 < kowenh> got it
15:07:55 <mchua> 15:06 < mchua> #startmeeting
15:07:57 <mchua> There we go. Carrying on.
15:08:00 <mchua> #chair kowenh jadudm DarrenMiller
15:08:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: DarrenMiller jadudm kowenh mchua
15:14:28 <mchua> kowenh: ask josef to clarify any terms you don't understand, because other people may not get it either
15:14:46 <mchua> kowenh: if there are links that already explain this stuff, ask him to link to them
15:14:56 <kowenh> got it
15:15:04 <mchua> kowenh: especially walkthroughs/tutorials on how to use the feature
15:15:14 <mchua> kowenh: you're doing great, btw. ;) the hard part is usually just getting them to talk.
15:15:36 <kowenh> mchua: ask for links to walkthroughs/tutorials?
15:19:28 <mchua> kowenh: Yep.
15:19:49 <jadudm> FS102 has RSEs today: some kind of evaluation thing that we're not allowed to see/be present for.
15:19:56 <jadudm> They'll be showing up en masse momentarily.
15:20:14 <mchua> hey jadudm, kowenh just filled me in (and is doing her feature profile interview in #fedora-meeting-1 right now, it's going *great*)
15:20:20 <mchua> jadudm: backlog at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/allegheny/2010-04-20/allegheny.2010-04-20-15.06.log.txt
15:20:25 <jadudm> mchua: don't tell her that!
15:20:43 <jadudm> mchua: i try and keep these students on the edge! you're messin
15:20:47 <jadudm> up mah system!
15:20:53 <jadudm> uh-ho.
15:20:58 <jadudm> here come more...
15:21:04 * mchua grins and sprinkles magic positive reinforcement dust all over
15:32:12 <hansene> mchua: hello mel I was wondering were you able to read that email we sent out about the videos?
15:35:15 <mchua> hansene: I did, have you gotten to talk with any of the folks who replied?
15:37:57 <hansene> mchua: we are trying to find the responses from the email as we speak and we are having a little difficulty finding them
15:40:36 <jadudm> mchua: everyone else showded up
15:40:42 <DarrenMiller> we iz here
15:41:20 <mchua> hansene: hm, have you found the list archives yet?
15:41:23 * mchua looks for the link
15:41:50 <mchua> jadudm, DarrenMiller: yay! when is the last class, btw - and the release party (and do you want us online/etc for that?)
15:42:01 <DarrenMiller> may 4th
15:42:09 <mchua> hansene: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/
15:42:10 <DarrenMiller> location TBD
15:42:15 <mchua> hansene: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/2010-April/thread.html
15:42:31 <mchua> DarrenMiller: ok - if y'all want to be focused on being there in person, that's totally cool, we can look at pics afterwards :)
15:42:38 <mchua> DarrenMiller: but if you want to throw a projector up we'll wave on IRC
15:43:16 <DarrenMiller> mchua: yeah, we can either have you there via IRC or skype you in (unless Skype is some kind of nasty non-opensource no no)
15:43:48 <applebb> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/
15:45:26 <mchua> DarrenMiller: your call, have webcam, will travel. there are some open source videochat apps but I haven't played much with them, will see what I can do though.
15:46:28 <DarrenMiller> mchua: coolz
15:47:41 <chartij> mchua: i have a question
15:47:50 <mchua> chartij: go ahead and ask :)
15:48:29 <mchua> chartij: you never to ask permission to ask a question, btw. :) you can always just ask - it's a good thing, and it's totally ok.
15:48:57 <chartij> im trying to help with soas and i have the instructions to actually make a website....however. i dont understand them. and the link they gave https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_a_new_official_Spins_web_page  doesn't mean anything to me. each button claims its an "image" and there are no pictures :(((
15:51:40 <mchua> chartij: ah, i thought you folks were creating content for the soas spin website, not necessarily the website itself
15:52:05 <mchua> chartij: (in other words, that you would write the text that's going on the website, and then we could pick up from there and make the actual website, since html is something that a lot of us are used to)
15:52:40 <chartij> ahhh no one told me that!!!
15:52:44 <chartij> that makes sense!
15:52:59 <chartij> so if i write something up, where should i send it?
15:53:26 <mchua> chartij: do you know how to edit wiki pages now?
15:53:32 <mchua> chartij: (if not, DarrenMiller or jadudm can show you)
15:54:01 <mchua> chartij: because ultimately, the folks making the webpage would like to grab the content from here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Sugar_on_a_Stick#Spins_Page
15:54:16 <chartij> um no. but ill figure it out. thats where that info should go?
15:54:24 <mchua> chartij: I would edit directly on that wiki page, yes.
15:54:44 <mchua> chartij: coordinate with the other people in your class working on the SoaS spin webpage, though
15:55:03 <chartij> mmk thanks
15:55:04 <mchua> chartij: I know one of them did an interview with a teacher using SoaS last week, so there's some content to put in there
15:55:34 <applebb> mchua:  for the fedora and video sharing, we didn't get much of a response. We were wondering if you had looked at the email that Nick sent out yet?
15:55:55 <mchua> chartij: y'all might also want to see if you can unify your plans and summarize them to the marketing mailing list as a team - it's hard to keep track of what everyone is doing for that spins website right now (at least for me)
15:56:07 <mchua> applebb: I have
15:56:16 <mchua> applebb: if you don't get a response at first, try, try again ;)
15:56:24 <mchua> applebb: use this time to poke people on IRC, too (#fedora-mktg)
15:56:41 <mchua> applebb: there may also be interested people in #fedora-ambassadors
15:59:57 <DarrenMiller> chartij: i am not darren, but is there anything we can do to help?
16:04:25 <mchua> DarrenMiller, jadudm: #fedora-design folks need help scoping their work for the remainder of term
16:04:28 <mchua> can haz?
16:09:12 <kowenh> mchua: hey mel, i finished the interview with josef and i'm going to start working on the editing. 2 questions. do you want me to sent the zodbot links to the marketing mailing list? and when i do the edits, where should i start posting material?\
16:09:29 <mchua> kowenh: yes to the first question, please!
16:09:34 <mchua> kowenh: and to the second... one sec
16:09:54 <mchua> kowenh: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Btrfs_in_Fedora_13
16:10:15 <mchua> kowenh: (it'll make a new page, but that's the page that https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:F13_in-depth_features links to)
16:10:34 <mchua> kowenh: I just copy-pasted mine and did a little bit of formatting, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Python_in_Fedora_13#David_Malcolm
16:10:42 <mchua> kowenh: (ignore the other stuff there that isn't the interview, they're mostly random notes)
16:11:03 <kowenh> mchua: ok. so to the feature profile page that's already started?
16:13:43 <mchua> kowenh: yep yep.
16:14:40 <kowenh> mchua: excellent. thanks
16:21:36 <jadudm> mchua: i'll send an email/doodle; it would be good to touch base, but the rest of my afternoon is booked
16:21:42 <jadudm> will catch you l8rs
16:21:51 <jadudm> thanks all again!
16:21:56 <mchua> can do
16:23:29 <mchua> #endmeeting