15:08:53 #startmeeting 15:08:54 Meeting started Thu Apr 22 15:08:53 2010 UTC. The chair is mchua. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:08:55 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:09:13 * mchua listens in :) 15:09:39 * sdziallas is here, too. 15:12:05 DarrenMiller: I'm curious how each of the teams is doing, could we get a quick "go around the room, 30 second progress report" thing from each team? 15:13:28 mchua: sure. will get back you you after i make the rounds 15:15:15 thanks! 15:15:55 hello mchau this is matt and sahar working on the press kit/screen shots! 15:16:46 arbabs: Howdy! Thanks for pinging. How's it going? 15:16:57 arbabs: Can we move to #fedora-mktg? More press kit people hang out there. 15:17:29 pretty good. we were wondering if we could help with any other small tasks. matt uploaded the screenshots 15:18:29 arbabs: great - can you send links to the marketing list as to where we can find them? 15:18:36 arbabs: actually, one place the screenshots will be used is the one page release notes 15:26:43 mchua: i'm trying to subscribe to the fedora marketing teams mailing list and I'm having some trouble. 15:28:21 mchua: am I supposed to get some sort of confirmation email? 15:31:03 tcorc: Yes - actually, for mailing lists, it's probably fastest if you track down Matt or Darren. 15:31:12 It's one of those things that's far faster to help with in person. 15:32:51 mchua: okay. matt tried to sign me up for it last week sometime and I never got the confirmation email so i tried it again just now. I feel like I'm over looking some crucial step. 15:33:35 mchua: oh.. never mind. It just worked! 15:33:39 tcorc: awesome! 15:45:06 mchua: checked in with everyone. the teams that need the most help are Sugar on a Stick and Video Marketing. I told the video team to make a wiki, following the lead of the twitter team. SOAS team is looking for more guidance about what kind of language and other contributions you need. they're shrivea, millera4 (or miller4a -- can't recall), johnsog, muccic, and morinoa 15:45:31 all other teams are jammin out 15:48:37 DarrenMiller: awesome - I was a bit worried about the design tickets team from last week, how're they doing? 15:48:47 DarrenMiller: if they learn inkscape today they can do the layout of the one page release notes 15:49:49 mchua: they're playing with inkscape but feeling like mastery is not going to come in one day 15:50:45 mchua: i suggested they propose how to ammend/change icons and logos, putting forward proposals as sketches rather than finished pieces 15:50:59 DarrenMiller: Nifty! 15:51:05 Mchua: hopefully this will help them to feel more confident 15:51:07 DarrenMiller: hm, if they're playing with inkscape... lemme pull up a file for them to look at 15:51:12 DarrenMiller: I sent them some tutorial links last week 15:51:33 mchua: ok. they've been alerted 15:51:50 DarrenMiller: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/collateral/release%20notes/f12/ 15:52:02 DarrenMiller: the three .svg files in there are the source for the layout of last release's one-page release notes 15:52:10 DarrenMiller: they can open that in inkscape and play around 15:52:28 DarrenMiller: we will need a similar sort of layout for the content being revised for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_one_page_release_notes 15:52:41 DarrenMiller: which is furiously being edited in http://piratepad.net/one-page-release-notes right now 15:52:54 DarrenMiller: and also there is a team of people (the ones who made installation screenshots) going to hunt for images for it 15:53:23 DarrenMiller: the big missing one is the big banner like the one at the top of https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_one_page_release_notes 15:53:28 mchua: cool. screenshot folks seem to have a handle on things and they're sitting right behind the icon folks 15:53:34 DarrenMiller: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F12-releasenotes-banner.png 15:53:38 DarrenMiller: that is a graphic that will need to be made 15:54:21 DarrenMiller: it's mostly the underlying image (the hands) that needs to be found/changed - the slogan for F12 was "unite" and the one for F13 is "rock it" 15:54:34 (the release codename is Goddard, so "rock it" --> rocket) 15:54:50 DarrenMiller: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_release_slogan for trivia 15:55:13 mchua: hey mel, quick question. should I put the edits i have so far on the feature profile wiki? (for the btrfs feature profile) 15:57:53 kowenh: yes! edit away. 15:58:05 kowenh: one of the things we often say in open source is "be bold!" 15:58:25 kowenh: it's easy enough to edit something back, anyway :) but it's your feature profile and your wiki page, so you are *totally* in charge. 15:58:39 mchua: ok. i did edits in open office so i just have to get it on the wiki 15:58:55 mchua: ok. i don't know if it's too long... 15:59:04 kowenh: No such thing as too long. :) 15:59:26 kowenh: if the content is remixable, the people who republish it elsewhere can always edit themselves for length, later on. 15:59:36 mchua: ok. good. then i'll work on putting that up 16:01:50 mchua: do you think that email we sent out would be a good idea to put on a wiki page on fedora 16:04:05 hansene: Which email was that? (Sorry, juggling a lot of different Fedora-related projects, not all of them Allegheny-related... sometimes need to be reminded which project is which) 16:04:53 um the email about you tube/ video and fedora 16:08:08 mchua: the email about you tube/ video and fedora 16:08:27 hansene: Yep, DarrenMiller mentioned that he'd encouraged you do create a wiki page on that. 16:08:31 hansene: and I think that's exactly right. 16:11:13 mel: can you put the new draft on the wiki pgae 16:11:15 page? 16:11:25 we can't do it for some reason 16:11:34 mchua: so if we just took that email and added a few things that would be good? 16:11:35 and email us the link plz 16:11:54 tyler will email the marketing list 16:12:17 DarrenMiller: Can do. 16:12:21 hansene: Yep. And mail that to the list. 16:12:33 hansene: sometimes, you need to keep on talking for a while to get folks to start perking up and listening. 16:12:39 hansene: if you don't seem to be getting a response, try something else. 16:12:49 hansene: try emailing people individually, who've shown interest before. try asking individuals on IRC. 16:13:00 hansene: and bring those conversations out into the public mailing list whenever possible to build momentum. 16:13:16 mchua: o ok that makes sense because then they would feel the individual attention from the video 16:13:18 Momentum-building is one of the most important skills in activism and community-building, imo. 16:13:22 hansene: exactly. 16:13:27 It's also one of the hardest things to articulate and etach. 16:13:30 er, teach. 16:13:35 I learned by watching people who were very, very good at it. 16:13:58 (Most of them are around Fedora, actually - Paul Frields (stickster), Max Spevack (spevack), Greg DeKoenigsberg (gregdek), Karsten Wade (quaid). 16:14:01 ) 16:14:15 mchua: so basically start with individuals to get the ball rolling and continue the snowball effect in a bigger public forum 16:15:27 hansene: exactly. 16:16:15 mchua: thanks again for all your help. we're all signing off for lunch 16:16:23 mchua: see you next week, if not sooner 16:18:55 #endmeeting