19:02:10 <jillr> #startmeeting Ansible Diversity Working Group | Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/577
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19:02:18 <jillr> #chair thedoubl3j
19:02:18 <zodbot> Current chairs: jillr thedoubl3j
19:02:48 <jillr> there's no agenda items, so
19:02:53 <jillr> #topic open floor
19:03:01 <thedoubl3j> is there anything that needs eyes etc?
19:03:11 <misc> hi
19:03:16 <jillr> #chair misc
19:03:16 <zodbot> Current chairs: jillr misc thedoubl3j
19:03:53 <misc> nothing to propose for the agenda either
19:04:21 <jillr> I think there's a lot of burn out going around the world generally, and DEI work is a lot of emotional burden
19:04:28 <misc> true
19:04:32 <thedoubl3j> yeah, v true
19:05:25 <jillr> #info most (maybe all?) of the Fest talks should have English language captions
19:05:39 <thedoubl3j> I have rare time tomorrow since we are in between stuff so if something needs eyeball or movement, happy to contribute where I can but I have nothing currently to add
19:05:58 <jillr> I used that win to push some internal folks to do better on other events too, and it was recieved well
19:06:16 <jillr> internal Red Hat, not just Ansible
19:06:17 <thedoubl3j> that is awesome news!
19:06:27 <jillr> x-fingers for Red Hat Summit
19:07:02 <misc> which remind me of a idea I had while reading a book (Cooperative Gaming, on D&I in video games industry), does any one know of a check list of what is needed to make a event accessible ?
19:07:10 <misc> (like, the caption part)
19:07:16 <jillr> Contributor Summit won't have captioning, but I haven't given up on the idea of doing live captioning for events like that
19:07:48 <jillr> I don't know of an authorative list, no
19:07:57 <misc> I figured that while we do not have everything (and some events are too understaffed for that, like meetup), a list of what can be done and what events have to offer would help people
19:08:35 <jillr> I've given some docs (and done presentations) to RH Events Marketing in the past
19:09:19 <misc> my idea was more to use that to signal to people what they can expect, or when we can't do something
19:09:29 <jillr> things like food options, ample non-alcoholic options, live transcripts, gender neutral facilities
19:09:42 <misc> (it was much clearer yesterday in my mind)
19:09:52 <misc> jillr: yeah
19:10:06 <jillr> oh like a list with: "This event has these 3 things, but not these 26 things"?
19:10:14 <misc> yeah
19:10:23 <misc> with the added benefits that it start to put pressure
19:10:45 <jillr> yeah it's a bad look for marketing if the list is too heavy on "we don't do these things"  :)
19:10:53 <misc> (insert something on subjectivity technology, yada yada)
19:11:16 <jillr> I share this blog post with everyone I can about social events:
19:11:18 <jillr> #link https://modelviewculture.com/pieces/alcohol-and-inclusivity-planning-tech-events-with-non-alcoholic-options
19:11:30 <misc> jillr: yeah would be a shame indeed but it is up to them to make sure it doesn't happen
19:11:46 <misc> we are just making a list
19:11:58 <thedoubl3j> getting a 404 on that link
19:12:04 * misc play the godfather music
19:12:37 <misc> same here
19:12:48 <misc> seems a server problem, their WP instance is no longer here ?
19:12:52 <jillr> oh, I guess it went away sometime recently?
19:12:53 <jillr> https://web.archive.org/web/20210409095314/https://modelviewculture.com/pieces/alcohol-and-inclusivity-planning-tech-events-with-non-alcoholic-options
19:14:11 <jillr> weird, I can find it if I navigate the site from her author page.  oh well.
19:14:15 <misc> https://modelviewculture.com/pieces/alcohol-and-inclusivity-planning-tech-events-with-non-alcoholic-options
19:14:38 <misc> that's curious
19:14:45 <misc> cause I also found the url on the page
19:15:08 <thedoubl3j> that was odd indeed.
19:15:10 <misc> why can't computers work ?
19:15:55 <jillr> if you solve that question let me know  :)
19:16:18 <misc> I know Fedora started a document, but it was never finished
19:17:18 <thedoubl3j> I feel like they always work, just not how we intended them to somewhere down the line.
19:22:01 <jillr> I don't have anything else, should we call it here?
19:22:08 <misc> yep
19:22:14 <jillr> thanks y'all
19:22:17 <jillr> #endmeeting