16:01:03 #startmeeting Documentation Working Group aka DaWGs 16:01:03 Meeting started Tue Nov 23 16:01:03 2021 UTC. 16:01:03 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 16:01:03 The chair is acozine. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 16:01:03 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:01:03 The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_working_group_aka_dawgs' 16:01:27 #topic open floor 16:01:45 #info samccann is out today 16:02:28 I'm wrestling with authn/authz issues so my head isn't really in the documentation space 16:02:36 who's around? 16:02:50 anybody have a topic they want to discuss? 16:02:56 o/ 16:03:03 #chair ariordan 16:03:03 Current chairs: acozine ariordan 16:03:47 I'm looking at one of the docs survey issues: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/issues/75506 16:04:16 cool! 16:05:18 I'll start with the user guide. 16:05:27 that sounds great 16:06:23 as brian noted, using `hosts: all` is not necessarily dangerous, but in most cases you want to use a pattern there 16:07:24 I was wondering whether it would make sense to use hosts: to indicate a user-substitute, or to use a name like hosts: staging. 16:07:24 at least in intor i would clarify there are 3 ways to select hosts for a play, hosts: being the most specific , --limit being 'additional restrictions' and inventory itself being the other 16:07:42 if your machines/VMs are organized by function, you don't want to install databases on the web machines, or web servers on the databse machines 16:08:14 so plays that are specific purupsoe should be restricting to specific hsots/groups 16:08:34 but other plays, i.e update security packages, are meant to be universal 16:09:26 set dns/timeservers/routes/etc many things can be looked at as both universal (you define the data by group by applies to all) or you can setup plays with specific data for each group ... so it also depens a lot on context 16:09:28 true, that's where adding context would help 16:10:37 i would keep hosts: alll on 'geneirc examples' but if we are doing specific things like 'installing db' .. hosts: dbservers makes more sense (we have done this alreayd in some places) 16:10:40 Thanks, I'll get the PR started for the user guide and add a link to this meeting so I can iterate. 16:11:03 ariordan: sounds great, I think either of your ideas would help 16:11:31 #chair bcoca 16:11:31 Current chairs: acozine ariordan bcoca 16:12:48 anything else folks want to talk about? 16:14:06 I think half of the US is on vacation all week 16:14:21 and half of Europe is having a happy hour 16:14:27 :) 16:14:48 not to mention flu season and the dratted pandemic 16:14:49 i shoujld do both ... 16:14:59 so it's a quiet week 16:15:01 @smccann:matrix.org cyb-clock chimes Fifteen exciting, thrilling minutes have slipped by whilst we plot to take over the universe, one doc at a time! 16:15:02 sssh 16:15:48 There's a fox lurking outside my window. It's unusual to see one in the daytime. 16:16:13 wow 16:16:22 we have foxes, but we almost never see them 16:16:27 they used to raid my chickens all the time 16:16:31 the coyotes we do see sometimes 16:16:52 bcoca: you have chickens in NJ? 16:17:39 and the various weasels, though we tend to smell those more than we see them 16:18:18 acozine: spain 16:18:32 ariordan: do you have a bird-feeder? is the fox lurking by your window with intent? 16:18:40 in nj they are pidgeons and i would be training foxes to help em be more effective 16:18:40 bcoca: ah, that makes more sense 16:19:06 acozine: but i do have 'llive chicken' shop 6 blocks away, where you can look it in the eye before choosing it for your meal 16:19:42 We don't have a bird feeder, but we there's a family of pheasants living in the garden, so maybe that's why the fox is around. 16:19:51 ah 16:20:42 I think our foxes mostly live on rabbits and mice and squirrels 16:20:58 they live on 'anything smaller they can catch' 16:21:48 We have hares here too, but they mostly keep a low profile. 16:24:29 I officially pronounce today "DaWGs Wildlife Discussion Day" 16:24:44 but unfortunately, I need to go back to my authn/authz struggles 16:25:13 ariordan: hope your daytime fox is not out because it's sick 16:25:28 bcoca: happy Thanksgiving 16:25:45 general note to the channel: 16:25:46 Good luck, acozine_ 16:25:53 Thursday is a holiday in the US 16:26:02 most folks have both Thursday and Friday off 16:26:27 but US chatters will be back Monday 16:26:28 happy holidays all 16:26:36 thanks, folks! 16:26:46 #endmeeting