#ansible-meeting: AnsibleFest Contributors Summit: Morning Session
Meeting started by gundalow at 13:02:19 UTC
(full logs).
Meeting summary
- Intro (gundalow, 13:03:09)
- https://bluejeans.com/7480904391
(gregdek,
13:06:16)
- https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ansible-summit-atlanta-2019
(dmsimard,
13:06:39)
- https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ansible-summit-atlanta-2019-general-session
(gregdek,
13:06:43)
- Data Presentation (Greg Sutcliffe ) (gundalow, 13:09:26)
- gwmngilfen is giving a presentation on using
data to understand community structure and aid governance
(gundalow,
13:11:00)
- Ideas on how to use this data, ie what
questions we should ask? (gundalow,
13:15:01)
- ACTION: gundalow to
give gwmngilfen updated list of committers (gundalow,
13:15:27)
- we will be pulling web stats from
docs.ansible.com to add to the stats on module usage (gundalow,
13:20:49)
- We have stats to show the 80% merge time for
various labels. The stats confirm that label/P1 and label/P2 get
merged faster than others. Likewise label/bugs get merged faster
than label/feature (or label/new_module) (gundalow,
13:22:06)
- the merge time stats allows you to pick any two
labels to compare (gundalow,
13:22:44)
- We also have some stats on
http://ansible.meetup.com (gundalow,
13:25:39)
- http://stats.eng.ansible.com/apps/
(gregdek,
13:29:15)
- Roadmap with Dylan Silva (gregdek, 13:33:31)
- thaumos / Dylan contributed to 0.12 in June
2012 and has been making trouble fo us ever since (gregdek,
13:34:24)
- ACTION: gregdek to
clean his keyboard (gregdek,
13:35:00)
- ACTION: jtanner to
clean his keyboard (gregdek,
13:36:39)
- no preso on screen for this session
(gregdek,
13:37:50)
- Open Questions / Q+A about collections (gregdek, 13:39:08)
- Open Questions / Q+A about Core roadmap / collections (gregdek, 13:39:21)
- question: what will go into ansible core and
what will stay in collections? (gregdek,
13:39:41)
- answer: all "content" will go into some kind of
collection (gregdek,
13:40:07)
- https://github.com/ansible-collections
(bcoca,
13:44:41)
- galaxy will be the way for users to get "a la
carte" content if they so choose (gregdek,
13:45:18)
- initially, current idea for community
collections will likely be in a single repo and multiple
collections, will discuss later in dedicated collections
session (gregdek,
13:46:05)
- chouseknecht is discussing galaxy (gregdek,
13:57:41)
- geerlingguy is asking questions about ui of
galaxy (gregdek,
13:59:14)
- searchabilityt of collections will be
key (gregdek,
13:59:52)
- ACTION: gwmngilfen
should have basic stats for collections in galaxy (gregdek,
14:00:27)
- ACTION: gregdek to
think about stats on growth of collections and usage rate
(gundalow,
14:00:48)
- maybe 10-30 people don't know what ansible-test
is (gundalow,
14:01:32)
- `ansible-test` is what does all the work when
you push a PR to ansible/ansible (gundalow,
14:02:40)
- https://github.com/ansible/ansible/tree/devel/test
? (dmsimard,
14:03:16)
- ansible-test is in the
github.com/ansible/ansible (ie main) repo (gundalow,
14:03:26)
- https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/devel/user_guide/collections_using.html
(bcoca,
14:09:56)
- https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/devel/user_guide/collections_using.html
(bcoca,
14:10:17)
- https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/devel/dev_guide/developing_collections.html
(bcoca,
14:10:25)
- Collections (gundalow, 14:30:13)
- https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ansible-summit-atlanta-2019-general-session
line 69 (gundalow,
14:30:38)
- proposal: new collection format for community
collections: one repo, many collections (gregdek,
14:32:41)
- proposal: net new plugins will go into the new
community collection (gregdek,
14:33:24)
- one of the initial structures for Community
Collections will be ~21 collections, matching the top level
directories from
https://github.com/ansible/ansible/blob/devel/lib/ansible/modules
(ie cloud_community, clustering_community, crypto_community,
...) (gundalow,
14:34:00)
- For now the Ansible Community Collections will
live under github.com/ansible/ (gundalow,
14:35:03)
- The repository where a Collection lives could
be anywhere, no requirement to be under GitHub. Ansible will
continue to develop on GitHub (gundalow,
14:38:23)
- module_utils will be forked. (gregdek,
14:43:30)
- we're going to have to make sure that upstream
and downstream are in sync, and that is on us to keep pace.
(gregdek,
14:43:54)
- we will not necessarily fork mod_utils, but we
must have the ability to do so, and if we do, maintaining
upstream/downstream relationship will be critical (gregdek,
14:46:26)
- FYI #ansible-docs
https://github.com/ansible/community/wiki/Docs (gundalow,
14:47:20)
- question in the room: will there an option to
say "this collection is for x versions only"? (gregdek,
14:49:35)
- answer: yes, creators can say "this collection
version only works for these versions of ansible" -- tooling will
eventually restrict, but does not work that way today (gregdek,
14:50:25)
- These are all proposals, we need your feedback
to help work out what's the right way to move forward (gundalow,
14:52:16)
- about dozzen Terraform users in the room
(gundalow,
14:55:20)
- Only ~dozen people in the room knew what a
collection looks like on disk (ie directory structure) (gundalow,
15:00:35)
- there were some people in the room that are now
more concerned that before (gundalow,
15:06:58)
- geerlingguy asks A lot of discussion is about
Python and Collections. What about Roles? When are Roles getting new
features? (gundalow,
15:09:03)
- ~2 two dozen people are excited for
Collections (gundalow,
15:17:17)
- Requiring documentation for modules has been
key to ensuring Ansible's success (gundalow,
15:20:03)
- ACTION: gundalow for
future Contributor Summits ensure we have a decent webcam/video
camera showing the room (gundalow,
15:24:42)
- thaumos "licensing sucks" (geerlingguy,
15:35:22)
Meeting ended at 16:45:46 UTC
(full logs).
Action items
- gundalow to give gwmngilfen updated list of committers
- gregdek to clean his keyboard
- jtanner to clean his keyboard
- gwmngilfen should have basic stats for collections in galaxy
- gregdek to think about stats on growth of collections and usage rate
- gundalow for future Contributor Summits ensure we have a decent webcam/video camera showing the room
Action items, by person
- gregdek
- gregdek to clean his keyboard
- gregdek to think about stats on growth of collections and usage rate
- gundalow
- gundalow to give gwmngilfen updated list of committers
- gundalow for future Contributor Summits ensure we have a decent webcam/video camera showing the room
- gwmngilfen
- gundalow to give gwmngilfen updated list of committers
- gwmngilfen should have basic stats for collections in galaxy
- jtanner
- jtanner to clean his keyboard
People present (lines said)
- gregdek (103)
- bcoca (81)
- gundalow (75)
- felixfontein (62)
- abadger1999 (57)
- jtanner (46)
- geerlingguy (45)
- mnaser (35)
- jimi|ansible (30)
- cyberpear (30)
- robertdebock (26)
- dmsimard (19)
- resmo (18)
- dmellado (17)
- fungi (17)
- pabelanger (15)
- misc (14)
- shaps (12)
- zodbot (10)
- jborean93 (8)
- jillr (8)
- alikins (6)
- gwmngilfen (5)
- maxamillion (4)
- BobBoldin (3)
- akasurde (2)
- chouseknecht (2)
- jhawkesworth (2)
- webknjaz (2)
- ptoal2 (1)
- samccann (1)
- ptoal (1)
- sdoran (1)
- smolz (1)
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- thaumos (0)
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