20:00:08 <nitzmahone> #startmeeting Ansible Windows Working Group
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20:00:33 <jborean93> yo
20:00:35 <jokajak> jborean93: I hope it's as simple as pulling the wrong file
20:01:05 <nitzmahone> #chair jborean93
20:01:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: jborean93 nitzmahone
20:02:20 <nitzmahone> Nothing new on the agenda today
20:02:26 <nitzmahone> #topic open floor
20:02:30 <jborean93> I probably had one question to bring up
20:02:42 <nitzmahone> fire away
20:03:47 <jborean93> https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/46516#issuecomment-437179660
20:04:01 <jborean93> pretty much what we would want to name the `win_psmodule` source/repo module
20:04:21 <nitzmahone> yeah, win_psrepository works for me
20:04:33 <nitzmahone> (though it sounds a lot like "suppository" ;) )
20:04:37 <jborean93> cool, simple to me
20:04:58 <jborean93> slightly related, I had a giggle when I came across https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/api/shtypes/ns-shtypes-_shitemid
20:05:19 <nitzmahone> lol
20:05:26 <jhawkesworth_> hey
20:05:29 <jborean93> hey
20:05:34 <nitzmahone> #chair jhawkesworth_
20:05:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: jborean93 jhawkesworth_ nitzmahone
20:05:40 <nitzmahone> hey Jon!
20:06:09 <jhawkesworth_> hey.
20:06:14 <jhawkesworth_> just catching up
20:06:18 <jtanner> shite
20:06:42 <jhawkesworth_> I bet it seemed like a great idea at the time
20:07:02 <nitzmahone> jborean93 you ready for  https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/48404  to get merged?
20:07:11 <nitzmahone> Looks like it's just failing on the docker mess
20:07:18 <jborean93> yep, merge away if you're good with it
20:07:20 <nitzmahone> It's holding up testing on ... other things ;)
20:07:38 <nitzmahone> cool, will do
20:07:44 <jborean93> I know dag's win_wait_for_process has held up by it as well
20:07:58 <jborean93> and someone just posted a comment earlier saying win_psexec was failing
20:08:04 <jhawkesworth_> is shippable not happy atm?
20:08:05 <jborean93> when run with async in devel
20:08:26 <jborean93> shippable seemed to have downgraded the Docker version on our nodes causing some issues
20:08:35 <jborean93> it should be back to normal now AFAIK
20:09:48 <jhawkesworth_> ah ok I bounced someone azure pr earlier to see if it was just flakiness
20:10:42 <nitzmahone> Any other fun for today?
20:11:00 <jborean93> I'm good, should be nearing a win_mapped_drive revamp sometime soon but coming across some interesting issues
20:11:30 <jhawkesworth_> I have a question.  Is psrp ready to go now... I've been a bit out of touch recently but was wondering whether to try it for my next round of playbook upgrades
20:12:00 <nitzmahone> I'd still call it "experimental" personally; is there any reason you want to use it?
20:12:03 * jhawkesworth_ sees its documented connection type now so I guess its considered ready to use
20:12:22 <jhawkesworth_> I'm hoping for any speed enhancements I can get
20:12:39 <nitzmahone> I think in general the underlying stuff is a lot cleaner. I'd be surprised if you get performance boost from that.
20:12:54 <jhawkesworth_> got some feedback from users that some automation stuff is getting skipped because its slower in some cases than manual upgrades.
20:13:09 <jborean93> dag claims it is faster, local testing does say it is faster as well but only minimal gains
20:13:32 <jborean93> yes, manual work is always faster than automated runs....
20:13:37 <jhawkesworth_> I'll take any gains I can get.
20:13:50 <jhawkesworth_> ... but then you get snowflakes and headaches
20:14:06 <mrlos> exactly
20:14:18 <jborean93> sounds like people just want to continue running stuff manually
20:14:20 <nitzmahone> For most stuff it should be stable; you should definitely try it out
20:14:46 <jhawkesworth_> ok I'll set it up when I come to test the playbooks and capture some timings.
20:14:51 <jborean93> yep, there were a few minor bugs we found when it came to unicode characters but that should mostly be fixed now
20:14:56 <nitzmahone> There are probably some dusty corners still though where things may break
20:15:23 <jborean93> Any feedback is more than welcome, especially if you come across any of those dusty corners
20:15:51 <jhawkesworth_> sure
20:16:36 <jhawkesworth_> curious if playing with max_envelope_size has any effect, so I might try upping that
20:16:59 <nitzmahone> Probably not much; we hardcode internally to ~200k for things like file transfers
20:17:45 <nitzmahone> I wanted to make it totally dynamic, but querying the config costs roundtrips
20:18:07 <nitzmahone> (and most people don't mess with it anyway)
20:18:29 <jborean93> and having it set too high is actually counterproductive anyway
20:18:40 <jhawkesworth_> oh ok.. file transfers being most likely sort of calls for any gains.
20:18:49 <jhawkesworth_> sounds like one to leave alone then.
20:20:22 <nitzmahone> any other burning issues this week?
20:20:54 <jhawkesworth_> not from me.  Thanks for everyone's help with my epic refactor of `win_say`
20:21:10 <nitzmahone> :D
20:21:28 <jborean93> if only VBox allowed me to run it :)
20:22:00 * nitzmahone has still never actually seen it work; my one "real" Win10 host is silent as can be
20:22:02 <jhawkesworth_> I have literally heard of 1 other person who has used it successfully... to prank to his manager
20:22:49 <jhawkesworth_> yeah I was hoping to prove that it does work at 'fest, but your talk was scheduled same time as mine... and my demo failed anyway :-(
20:23:31 <jhawkesworth_> nice to have a low impact module to get head round using Ansible.Basic though
20:23:41 <jokajak> jborean93: shows how slurp is the same across multiple plays https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/EW6A3uOhS41394cte3cqPQ
20:24:48 <jborean93> that just tells me the keytab is always the same
20:25:33 <nitzmahone> Well, until next week then!
20:25:35 <nitzmahone> #endmeeting