13:30:02 #startmeeting The release 13:30:02 Meeting started Tue May 25 13:30:02 2010 UTC. The chair is mmcgrath. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:30:02 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 13:30:20 #action add task to hide -Alpha and -Beta releases from the mirrorlist on release day 13:30:22 I'm going to push spins.fp.o ahead of time 13:30:40 #actiln getting more seeders ready 13:30:40 but I don't want to do rewriterules 13:30:46 nirik: how's your torrent stuff looking? 13:30:48 smooge: Redirect 301 /originalpath /newpath 13:30:53 * mdomsch has a seeder running 13:30:58 oh 13:31:01 No mod_rewrite needed :-) 13:38:48 #info Announcement for mailing list is queued, checked all links 13:42:07 Heh, a syncStatic takes far longer in production than in staging 13:42:37 morning 13:43:08 Hiya Oxf13 13:43:09 oh, let me get some ini files in place for torrents 13:43:28 * stickster has PR folks on hold for the Red Hat press release 13:43:36 Maybe it has to do something with load average: 37.93, 35.87, 32.98 :-) 13:43:46 ricky: where you seeing that load average at? 13:43:48 wowsers 13:43:53 bapp01 13:44:08 (The one place where it's normal, I guess) 13:44:28 eh, that's still a bit high, it's all cpu time too 13:44:47 Maybe time for a bapp02 at some pint 13:44:48 **point 13:45:17 There's crawling and transifex pulling going on 13:45:35 Website build took almost 13 minutes there, takes less than 5 on app01.stg 13:45:47 ricky, mmcgrath look at http://fpaste.org/L7qM/ and let me know what I need to do 13:46:07 smooge: Did you add that file in fedora-docs/manifests/init.pp? 13:46:15 not yet 13:46:23 ok, torrent inis in place 13:46:27 (Just copy the fedora-docs.conf block from above and replace it with redirects.conf) 13:47:01 get that redirects pushed out asap, we don't want that syncing seconds after the announcement goes out. 13:47:35 we can kill crawlers if we need 13:47:36 * stickster can hold announcement until things get confirmed 13:47:48 ricky, thanks for catching that 13:47:50 tx looks like the killer right now 13:47:55 Should I give PR folks a target time after 10:00, like 10:15 or 10:30? 13:48:05 mdomsch: Nah, not a problem, the websites build is finished now 13:48:31 smooge: I sent my +1 13:48:41 smooge: I imagine mmcgrath is happy to +1 too 13:48:50 +1 13:49:12 ricky: Oxf13: we on pace for a 10:00 release? 13:49:20 I am 13:49:21 Websites are ready to go 13:49:46 ricky, pushed.. needs a puppetd -t on the proxy servers 13:50:11 * smooge wonders if a func call would work that way 13:50:17 smooge: I just ran this: 13:50:18 make HOSTS="proxy1 proxy3 proxy4 proxy5 proxy6 proxy7" push 13:50:21 Oxf13: ricky: mmcgrath: smooge: OK, shall I wave the checkered flag for the PR folks to push promo stuff to redhat.com and the press release for a 10am go? 13:50:24 Handy to know for future reference 13:50:28 In puppet/ 13:50:50 interesting 13:50:51 stickster: as far as I'm concerned, yes. Most of my stuff was done last night. 13:50:58 how are we looking on amount of mirrors open? 13:50:59 make push HOSTS :) 13:51:10 smooge: It works via snmp, might not work for some machines due to firewall rules, but it's very handy for doing all the proxies 13:51:18 Oxf13: I'll re check, it was 90% earlier 13:51:39 Hm, proxy7 isn't in func 13:51:44 But it isn't live either, so no problem 13:52:03 Er, I take that back 13:52:03 Adding it now 13:52:10 hmmm I thought I got it in func 13:53:20 Aaaand I have no idea how to add it. 13:53:20 Oxf13: yeah still sitting around 90% 13:53:26 I can just run the commands manually 13:54:51 so I think we're just waiting for the ricky vote on pulling the trigger 13:55:00 Oh, nothing blocking from here 13:55:16 Just let me know when you want the website pushed 13:55:48 mmcgrath, who is that last 10%? 13:55:52 Oxf13, when was the bitflip? 13:56:01 we're starting to see an up-tick in proxy requests - http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/monitoring/proxy-requests.html 13:56:18 mdomsch: http://fpaste.org/cN3t/] 13:56:21 oops - http://fpaste.org/cN3t/ 13:56:24 mdomsch: I did it around midnight pacific time 13:56:33 nearly 7 hours ago 13:56:45 ricky: lets push the website now 13:56:55 OK, running 13:57:19 And with that, I'm going to have Red Hat move their bits out too -- it will take 10-15 minutes for them to show up as well. 13:57:44 * stickster will save ML announcement until websites are ready 13:58:31 OK, website's out, doing spins now 13:58:42 * mmcgrath does a link check 13:59:42 ricky: FYI, http://stg.fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora != http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora 14:00:04 They look the same to me 14:00:04 ricky: nm, there it goes. 14:00:12 Ah, maybe you hit proxy6 14:00:21 I'm syncing manually there now as well, func didn't hit it either. 14:00:36 It hit it fine for spins though 14:00:48 Weird? 14:01:36 mmcgrath: ricky: OK to release ML announcement now? 14:01:49 * ricky is fine with it 14:02:38 stickster: looks good. I got 100% link coverage 14:02:53 * mmcgrath finds the clickstream of the new design a bit confusing 14:04:17 A result of trying to include everything :-( At least it's not on the main download page though 14:04:35 ricky: yeah, it's still much better. Don't get me wrong 14:04:51 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/collectd/bin/graph.cgi?hostname=proxy01;plugin=apache;type=apache_bytes;begin=-3600 <-- weird 14:05:02 Wow :-) 14:06:24 stickster: why "http://get.fedoraproject.org?F13an" instead of "http://get.fedoraproject.org"? 14:06:32 For link tracking purposes 14:06:36 So we know where people came from 14:06:41 lol 14:07:18 rsc: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/2010-May/012918.html 14:07:19 rsc: feel free to use a tinyurl or bit.ly or soemthing 14:07:23 Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 10:03:40 -0400 14:07:26 Have we collected any data from thos eyet? 14:07:28 **yet 14:07:33 that might be the closest to 10:00 am release we've ever done (: 14:07:48 herlo: rsc: There are links prepared at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Link_tracking 14:08:04 Heh, running the website sync half an hour in advance helped :-) 14:08:04 herlo: rsc: Using 100% free software ur1.ca site, no less :-) 14:09:05 ricky: Not yet -- we need a more solid Marketing SOP for them to make sure we're measuring apples to apples 14:09:16 OK 14:09:22 stickster: yeah, figured :) 14:09:29 Anybody have a .announce prepared? 14:10:03 $ rm -rf 13.RC3/ 14:10:03 rm: cannot remove `13.RC3//Fedora/i386/iso/.nfs000000000094f46100000012': Device or resource busy 14:10:15 mmcgrath: more wackyness with that secondary1 storage 14:10:28 ricky: No, but I can paste my recent dent 14:11:01 Sounds good, go for it 14:11:02 ricky: Sound good? 14:11:07 ah, ok :-D 14:11:42 done 14:11:45 Oxf13: looking 14:13:09 Oxf13: that's interesting. I assume that's not somethign you actually created? 14:13:17 that is correct 14:13:30 marek: ping 14:13:50 Announcement from my owner (stickster): Happy Fedora 13 Release Day! http://ur1.ca/03bfg -- to download: http://ur1.ca/03ajw 14:15:05 mmcgrath: pong 14:15:08 mdomsch: just to confirm, redirects for releases/13/ are disabled correct? 14:16:00 Oxf13, they still point at development/13 but the content is the same 14:16:05 I can drop them now 14:16:10 marek: hey, just created a weird ticket. I'll give you the ID if you want to look (when I get it back) 14:16:10 Note that there are pretty much 0 torrent links at fp.o 14:16:17 please do, I just closed the ticket to make that happen 14:16:25 So there may be more via mirrors this time. 14:17:54 np 14:18:16 we're serving around 380 requests / second at the moment 14:20:36 I'm getting mirrors.txt 14:20:42 Er, releases.txt 14:21:31 ricky: thanks I was just about to do that :) 14:23:15 Oxf13, done 14:23:22 will take effect top of the hour 14:23:27 marek: - INC000000198176 14:24:18 Thanks to whoever got func on proxy7 14:25:20 mmcgrath: let me find someone to have a look at it 14:29:15 marek: thanks, appreciated. not a huge major deal or anything but pretty weird :_/ 14:29:26 :) 14:30:39 what can I help with at the moment 14:31:13 smooge: right now we're just trying to pay attention to everything :) 14:33:11 mdomsch: barf, the anaconda redirect as method didn't get fixed :( 14:33:25 mmcgrath, ? 14:33:37 which redirect? 14:33:39 BFO is still using - method=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/13/Fedora/i386/os/ 14:33:49 because download.fedoraproject.org doesn't work 14:33:50 ouch 14:34:00 oh, anaconda doesn't handle the redirect 14:34:04 yeah 14:35:00 so is BFO getting used so much taht d.f.r.c can't handle it? 14:35:16 not yet 14:35:16 of so, yea!, and "oh" 14:35:26 and I suspect it we'll be ok. 14:35:54 if we need to get real fancy we can have it serve that as a server side script that changes method on download. 14:36:27 mmcgrath: torrents are humming along here. ;) 14:36:55 * mdomsch seeding at only 200KB/sec 14:37:09 cap is above 750 14:37:18 hrm, my rsync from warthog9 is failing... should I just manually bit-flip for now, or are there new things being pushed as well? 14:37:32 Jeff_S, manual please 14:37:38 mdomsch: ok, thanks 14:37:59 mdomsch, how can I get the metalink files for the isos from mm? and do they include the torrent information? 14:38:39 heffer, the metalink files for isos are per-ISO, not grouped, and do not inlcude torrent info 14:38:56 http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora-all 14:39:04 Ticket notification - infrastructure: Ticket #2144 (bug closed): Template modification (FedoraVersion 14:39:07 Not linked from anywhere at the moment, but it has everything 14:39:25 heffer, http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?path=pub/fedora/linux/releases/13/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-13-x86_64-DVD.iso 14:39:33 mdomsch, too bad. because using them with aria2 in http/ftp/torrent mode would be really nice. 14:39:47 mdomsch, thanks for the link 14:39:51 heffer, just a small matter of code I haven't had time to write 14:40:01 mdomsch, okay :) 14:44:11 ricky: ping 14:44:18 mmcgrath: pong 14:44:34 ricky: can you fix the F13 release.txt name. It says (Branch) :) 14:44:55 * mmcgrath is going through and double checking everything 14:45:08 Blah, I really should have slept last night 14:45:11 Good thing you checked 14:46:29 ricky: hehe, you were too excited for the release ;) 14:49:01 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/collectd/bin/index.cgi?hostname=proxy3&plugin=apache×pan=3600&action=show_selection&ok_button=OK 14:49:15 keepalives are taking up a lot of our scoreboard at the moment. 14:51:55 hmm, we're seeing a lot of docs errors 14:52:23 stickster: who's someone good to talk about wrt docs errors? 14:52:49 ricky: hey got a minute? 14:53:31 mmcgrath: Sure 14:53:44 ricky: ssh to proxy3 and tail -f *error.log 14:54:02 mmcgrath: Probably best is rudi, but he's in BNE so he may have finally dropped off for some shuteye 14:54:10 :-/ 14:54:10 I can try to help as much as I can 14:54:26 We can make sure sparks is here too, as Docs team lead. 14:54:27 stickster: I'm not sure what is including this - http://docs.fedoraproject.org/es-ES/Fedora/13/html/Release_Notes/Common_Content/css/default.css 14:54:34 but it's refering to css docs that don't exist 14:54:46 so browsers try to request them and they don't return 14:55:14 Hm, I'm guessing that needs to be fixed on the publican side 14:55:32 mmcgrath: Should we put empty docs in for those? ricky is right, they're generated by the Publican brand bits 14:55:50 heh, that's a fun one - [Tue May 25 14:55:32 2010] [error] [client 67.207.201.165] (36)File name too long: access to /get-fedora to download a LiveCD, regardless of what operating system youre running. This will give you a working version of Fedora, complete with common applications, all running off your CD drive - your hard drive wont be touched at all.And when youre ready, installation is just a click away.\nWant an even more enjoyable way to use F 14:56:03 Hehe 14:56:11 wow 14:56:14 Mispaste, happens to me all the time 14:56:20 * stickster too :-) 14:56:33 Good thing my URLs usually don't have rm -rfs in them :-) 14:57:14 mmcgrath: I can generate empty files for those CSS as a temporary fix and put them in our docs/web git repo 14:57:15 mmcgrath: so the 404 on the docs site is pushing them to the error/welcome page? which means the docs are basically inaccessible I assume 14:57:31 ke4qqq: beats me, you'll have to talk to the docs guys. 14:57:34 ke4qqq: I wouldn't think so, just generating lots of other 404s in the logs. 14:57:42 I just loaded a bunch of docs with no problem. 14:57:57 stickster: lang.css is the problem - 14:58:04 The error pages should redirect to / 14:58:09 So nothing should be inaccessible 14:58:28 Well, except for that langs.css file :-) 14:58:47 http://docs.fedoraproject.org/es-ES/Fedora/13/html/Release_Notes/index.html <-- seems to work OK 15:01:37 mmcgrath: Talking on #fedora-docs about this now 15:01:48 ricky: yeah, I can see in yslow, it's actually downloading and trying to run the main page stuff for all css docs that are missing 15:01:59 which isn't breaking the page, but is very inefficient 15:02:03 stickster: thanks 15:02:10 If we have a testing doc for staging sites, I recommend adding this to the test measurements 15:02:14 mmcgrath: anything I can help out with as far as release-day heckticness? 15:02:32 mmcgrath: Shall I whip up a rewriterule? 15:03:25 ricky: I'm not sure. 15:03:39 It would fix the extra useless downloading 15:03:45 stickster: this is something that could be tested before it gets to staging 15:03:46 ricky: empty file wouldn't be easier? (/me doesn't claim to know the answer, just asking) 15:03:47 Any downsides? 15:04:02 ke4qqq: It's under a bunch of paths :-/ 15:04:09 ricky: I say hold off for now and let the docs team see if they can fix it and push it out. 15:04:23 Publican is designed to have each language have its own files and be self-contained 15:04:26 OK 15:04:29 it doesn't seem to be causing anything horrible. 15:04:58 ricky: here's one you could fix - [Tue May 25 15:04:42 2010] [error] [client 59.172.157.158] File does not exist: /srv/web/spins.fedoraproject.org/favicon.ico 15:05:03 This is a good lesson to avoid last-minute stuff next time. Hopefully we've mitigated most of the issues 15:05:07 OK 15:05:16 [Tue May 25 15:04:47 2010] [error] [client 67.207.201.163] (36)File name too long: access to /get-fedora to download a LiveCD, regardless of what operating system youre running. This will give you a working version of Fedora, complete with common applications, all running off your CD drive - your hard drive wont be touched at all.And when youre ready, installation is just a click away.\nWant an even more enjoyable way to use Fedora, risk-free failed 15:05:22 that one just popped up again :) 15:05:43 hah 15:05:48 Haha, from a slightly different IP too 15:05:51 Same guy, I guess 15:06:10 mmcgrath: twice??? is that a bad link somewhere? 15:06:38 The IPs are 2 apart, for what it's worth 15:06:54 ah, it's a bot. 15:06:57 * ricky would hope our link checking would have caught that - did a lot of that last night 15:06:59 +http://www.chainn.com/mxbot.html 15:07:01 whatever that is 15:07:06 Hah, smart bot 15:07:37 interesting 15:07:45 mmcgrath: Anything I can help out with, or are we good? I have a few minutes, then I'll be gone for ~45 minutes, then I'll have quite a while if we need anything 15:08:00 CodeBlock: aside from more torrent seeders I think we're in good shape at the moment 15:08:16 mmcgrath: I'm already seeding, grabbed it last night, heh ;) 15:08:27 * nirik is pushing about 4800KB/sec for torrents now. 15:08:32 I'll bump up the throttle on my vps a bit for it 15:09:06 I'd seed at SHSU but we block torrenting in and out, so... :-/ 15:09:22 * rigeld2 stabs his security guy 15:09:36 yeah torrent is dangerous 15:09:36 Whoever designed the idea of /favicon.ico.. 15:09:41 mmcgrath: actually I'm only seeding -live, I'll grab some of the others I guess 15:09:51 ricky++ 15:13:23 mmcgrath: Which torrents really need some seeders atm, any particular ones? 15:14:01 It's hard to tell, you can look at http://torrent.fedoraproject.org:6969/ to see whichh ones are downloading the most of 15:14:19 Fedora-13-x86_64-DVD looks pretty popular. 15:14:22 by an order of magnitude 15:14:36 Fedora-13-i386-DVD same with that one 15:14:49 Can I get two +1s for this: http://dpaste.com/199000/ 15:15:00 +1 15:15:02 umm.. so even i'm confused on where to get the torrents 15:15:22 rather, i don't see the links anywhere on get-fedora 15:15:36 ricky: ^^ 15:16:34 Yeah, they aren't linked on fp.o at all, it was hard to find space with all the things we had to include :-( 15:16:50 gah 15:17:24 * ricky wishes we could just list 4 ISOs, desktop/DVD i686 and x86_64. 15:18:22 daMaestro: maybe make a note on the websites list 15:18:29 probably worth another discussion 15:18:45 * ricky is discussing with sijis in #fedora-websites 15:19:01 ah 15:19:15 He's in California, so times are a bit weird for him :-) 15:27:35 Alright, seeding both arch's -live and -DVD 15:27:37 * CodeBlock goes to get lunch 15:27:55 CodeBlock: thanks 15:28:14 i'm currently uploading at 2500KB/s 15:28:19 stupid box won't go any faster 15:39:39 mmcgrath: no problem, let me know if you come up with anything for me to do :) 15:40:43 dgilmore, jds2001: ping - mailman puppet config 15:40:59 we have manifests/services/mailman.pp and modules/mailman/ 15:41:11 and it sure looks like modules/mailman is NOT being used but the other is 15:41:29 so I'm just trying to figure out which one is the 'right' one 15:44:18 skvidal: i dont think we got it finshed ported to a module 15:44:33 okay 15:44:38 so my changes from yesterday are moot 15:44:41 I'll go fix them up 15:45:07 stickster, do you have more redirects you want me to do? 15:46:28 wow, best release day download experience ever 15:47:07 smooge: Still investigating 15:47:19 smooge: Weirdly, our docs-web repo appears to show that we *have* those CSS files 15:48:36 smooge: mmcgrath: http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=docs/web.git;a=tree;f=public_html/es-ES/Common_Content/css;h=f2396150050d46d5e5167f3c9893ade3d99fe450;hb=master 15:50:57 * stickster wishes nb were around to ask 15:54:42 stickster: can you build your copy of that and send me the output of a "find" so I can see where all the files are? 15:55:46 mmcgrath: http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/temp/css-list.txt 15:56:39 Hi 15:57:04 has someone ever looked at http://www.mirrorbrain.org/ 15:57:22 I think mdomsch has 15:57:23 gladiac, yes 15:57:31 I've spoken with peter poeml quite a bit 15:57:38 ah ok, fine 15:57:49 then I just hope Fedora will use it one day 15:57:52 MB is quite nice, MM accomplishes similar things with a different implementation 15:58:05 stickster: yeah, do a search on that page for "Release_Notes/Common_Content/" note that lang.css is gone 15:58:19 strange prediction :) 15:58:45 Oh bugger 15:58:54 mmcgrath: Good call. I'll put those in place and push them. 15:59:05 mmcgrath: A zero-byte file should be fine there, right? 15:59:33 stickster: it'd be even better if it didn't get requested at all but if that's a docbook convention that's hackish to fix a 0byte is fine too 15:59:46 unless that file should actually be there? 15:59:55 * mmcgrath isn't sure the mechanism that's actually creating the request and why 16:00:28 mmcgrath: It's to accommodate specific language CSS, i.e. RTL in some languages 16:01:06 When you build a document for publication in publican, it generates the default.css with those lines 16:01:35 16:01:36 It simply doesn't add a lang.css unless there's one it already knows it needs, like RTL for the he-IL (Hebrew) locale 16:01:43 so this could more be a publican bug? 16:01:48 mmcgrath: It definitely is 16:01:56 But we won't be able to get it fixed and pushed for at least most of a day 16:02:00 Since the maintainer is in BNE 16:02:21 So the fastest fix that the site's git pull won't overwrite (AFAIK) is putting in 0-byte lang.css for now 16:02:31 16:05:25 * stickster files Publican bug first to reference in the git changelog 16:07:14 mmcgrath: There's a good chance the Publican maintainer will say, "Fix your 404 redirects." 16:07:43 sites shouldn't have 404's anyway so even if we fix the redirects, we're still trying to serve content that doesn't exist. 16:09:04 * mmcgrath sees http codes 103 and wonders wtf thats about 16:09:40 103? 16:10:31 .bug 595799 16:10:32 stickster: Bug 595799 Missing lang.css file when publishing to web to avoid 404s - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=595799 16:10:36 smooge: yeah 16:11:35 mmcgrath, you probably found this already http://jw.n--tree.net/blog/2009/9/23/http-status-code-103 16:11:39 mod cache 16:12:00 yeah it's cache related, I just don't get what is causing it and what the client might be seeing. 16:12:10 mmcgrath: :-( no access to push my change, apparently 16:12:38 ah hah, that's what's going on. 16:12:43 the wiki does something similar. 16:12:56 stickster: you can't push to the docs site? O_o 16:13:25 Make sure you get in docs-writers and docs-publishers 16:13:44 Looks like you're missing the second one 16:13:47 sparks: ^ 16:14:01 Yup, just saw that, fixing 16:22:32 If anybody's interested, here are spins stats for F12 (including both i686 and x86_64) 16:22:36 http://dpaste.com/199031/ 16:23:09 Do we have total download.fp.o stats for the DVDs and Desktop/KDE Live media? 16:24:16 /wiki/Statistics has combined stats: 1486587 unique IPs 16:25:07 those dammed LXDErs beating out Xfce! :) 16:27:55 Oxf13: By the way - we were talking about hardlinks and timestamp changes yesterday - if people sync with -H as suggested, then they shouldn't end up pulling more data 16:30:00 mmcgrath, which proxy is on ipv6? proxy4? 16:30:06 Yup 16:30:16 mdomsch: yeah, and shortly proxy2 16:30:28 Woah, PHX2 has ipv6? Cool 16:30:30 its response time is a lot slower than the others, at least for me 16:30:38 ricky: nope, it'll be in the UK 16:30:40 ricky, no 16:30:48 Ohh, that proxy2 :-) 16:31:04 $ time wget -6 -S -O - 'https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-13&arch=x86_64&country=global' | wc -l 16:32:01 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/collectd/bin/index.cgi?hostname=proxy4&plugin=apache×pan=3600&action=show_selection&ok_button=OK 16:33:08 mdomsch: it's ipv6 specific, not proxy4 specific - 16:33:10 time wget -SO- --header="Host: mirrors.fedoraproject.org" 'http://152.46.7.222/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-13&arch=x86_64&country=global' | wc -l 16:33:19 ricky: the new proxy2 :) 16:33:27 mmcgrath, interesting... 16:33:50 dgilmore: ping 16:33:58 mdomsch: can you time this? 16:34:13 time wget -6 -S -O - 'http://fedoraproject.org/' | wc -l 16:35:22 mmcgrath: pong 16:35:25 mmcgrath, it's fine now - I restarted my aiccu tunnel 16:35:32 must have been a problem on my end 16:35:43 dgilmore: how's your ipv6 looking to Fedora services, particularly mirrors.fp.o 16:35:45 0.3 - 0.4sec now 16:35:48 mdomsch: interesting, lets get some verifications 16:35:55 please do 16:35:59 mdomsch: do you have header info from the -S portion of that request? 16:36:23 mmcgrath: ricky: OK, got my group access, now just need to wait for propagation 16:36:56 mmcgrath, http://fpaste.org/L8Q1/ 16:37:38 stickster: It's already synced to hosted 16:37:41 mmcgrath: ricky: OK, changes pushed, should be in next sync 16:38:13 mmcgrath: im getting 403's 16:38:30 mdomsch: do you have the headers from the slow request? 16:38:38 dgilmore: 403 to what address? 16:38:43 err URL 16:39:22 mmcgrath: i ran time wget -6 -S -O - 'https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-13&arch=x86_64&country=global' | wc -l 16:40:07 Resolving mirrors.fedoraproject.org... 2610:28:200:1::fed0:2 16:40:07 Connecting to mirrors.fedoraproject.org|2610:28:200:1::fed0:2|:443... failed: Permission denied. 16:40:49 permission denied to a 443 port? 16:40:51 that's... weird 16:41:03 i can ping6 the host ok 16:41:21 dgilmore: wget -6 -SO/dev/null http://fedoraproject.org/ 16:41:22 try that 16:41:37 dgilmore: what headers did you get? 16:41:42 an interesting question here, but is it intended that no torrent options are available on get.fedoraproject.org? 16:41:49 permission denied 16:41:58 I can't help share if I can't find the links... 16:41:59 herlo: I'm not sure what the deal is with that, check in #fedora-websites I know they've been discussing it. 16:42:06 mmcgrath: cool, tx 16:42:13 http://torrents.fedoraproject.org/ ;) 16:42:28 (which is where we have been pointing folks in #fedora who can't find them) 16:42:37 It's intended 16:42:50 We discussed this with mizmo, and decided to leave it as is 16:42:53 so are we going to slowly phase out torrents? what's the plan there? 16:42:56 mmcgrath: i think its something with me 16:43:02 nirik: but that's not my point :) 16:43:06 dgilmore: selinux? :) 16:43:07 mmcgrath: i cant access ipv6.google.com either 16:43:14 * ricky personally wanted torrents to be linked somewhere, but ah well. 16:43:24 mmcgrath: selinux is in permissive 16:43:31 herlo: I'm just saying we are seeing that in #fedora a lot too... ;) 16:43:34 ip6tables? 16:43:34 ricky: I think I have an easy solution for the future and could hack it in quickly... 16:43:35 since my kvm setup doesnt work in enforcing mode 16:48:29 dgilmore, I had to restart my sixxs tunnel 16:49:04 mdomsch: i did that 16:49:24 mdomsch: its something on my external router box 16:49:36 i run aiccu on my colo'd box 16:49:45