14:01:33 <mkonecny> #startmeeting Fedora Infrastructure Sustaining Standup Meeting
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14:01:35 <mkonecny> #chair cverna mkonecny siddharthvipul jednorozec mboddu lrossett asaleh mobrien nils pingou
14:01:35 <zodbot> Current chairs: asaleh cverna jednorozec lrossett mboddu mkonecny mobrien nils pingou siddharthvipul
14:01:37 <mkonecny> #info meeting is 30 minutes MAX. At the end of 30, its stops
14:01:39 <mkonecny> #info agenda is at https://board.net/p/fedora-infra-daily
14:01:41 <mkonecny> .hello zlopez
14:01:42 <zodbot> mkonecny: zlopez 'Michal Konečný' <michal.konecny@packetseekers.eu>
14:01:47 <nils> .hello nphilipp
14:01:48 <zodbot> nils: nphilipp 'Nils Philippsen' <nphilipp@redhat.com>
14:01:56 <siddharthvipul_> .hello siddharthvipul1
14:01:57 <zodbot> siddharthvipul_: siddharthvipul1 'Vipul Siddharth' <siddharthvipul1@gmail.com>
14:02:39 <lrossett> .hello lrossett
14:02:40 <zodbot> lrossett: lrossett 'Leonardo Rossetti' <lrossett@redhat.com>
14:02:49 <mkonecny> Hi everybody, I'm currently on road, so it's possible I will have some connection issues
14:03:35 <mkonecny> #topic Item needing reviews
14:03:40 <mkonecny> Ok, let's start
14:04:24 <mkonecny> I have one thing https://github.com/fedora-infra/mbbox/pull/91
14:04:34 <lrossett> I reviewed some prs today, the last one being about mbs-backend docs which needs just one fid ans should be good yo go
14:04:37 <lrossett> *to
14:04:52 <lrossett> I approved that one already
14:04:57 <siddharthvipul_> some CentOS CI ansible playbook work but that's in review progress by Fabian :)
14:05:20 <mkonecny> lrossett++
14:05:39 <mkonecny> Anything else for review?
14:05:52 <lrossett> this one: https://github.com/fedora-infra/mbbox/pull/95
14:06:02 <lrossett> a tiny pr for github pr and issue templates
14:06:52 <mkonecny> lrossett: I will look at it
14:07:04 <mobrien[m]> .hello mobrien
14:07:05 <zodbot> mobrien[m]: mobrien 'Mark O'Brien' <markobri@redhat.com>
14:08:47 <mkonecny> #topic Work In Progress
14:09:18 <nils> Improving CI for our Ansible repo
14:09:29 <mkonecny> I worked on the mbs-frontend for mbbox yesterday, today I'm working on blog post about mbbox
14:09:30 <siddharthvipul_> we are working on deploying a staging cluster (right now trying to identify where to deploy to keep it close to production and still not impacting the actual node count)
14:09:32 <nils> Which doesn't help much if people just commit directly, hint, hint
14:09:41 <lrossett> I was mostly reviewing stuff and will grab something from the todo list.. probaly the mbox crd work
14:10:07 <mkonecny> nils: I stopped to do that, when we switched to pagure
14:10:14 <nils> mkonecny++
14:11:59 <fm-admin> pagure.issue.tag.added -- pingou tagged ticket fedora-infrastructure#8979: iad2 https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8979
14:12:05 <fm-admin> pagure.issue.comment.added -- asamalik commented on ticket fedora-infrastructure#8964: "docs too big to fit on proxies anymore" https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8964#comment-656383
14:12:18 <mkonecny> If nobody has nothing else, let's move on
14:12:20 <mkonecny> #topic Blockers
14:12:28 <mkonecny> Do we have any blockers?
14:12:47 <siddharthvipul_> lack of infra but nothing else :)
14:12:52 <lrossett> no blockers but I saw a few failed builds in zuul today
14:13:06 <fm-admin> pagure.issue.comment.added -- asamalik commented on ticket fedora-infrastructure#8964: "docs too big to fit on proxies anymore" https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8964#comment-656384
14:14:45 <mkonecny> lrossett: I had some yesterday, but they were related to kubernetes not set up
14:15:00 <mkonecny> Not sure why this happened
14:15:44 <mkonecny> Maybe asaleh will know
14:15:47 <mkonecny> #topic Questions
14:16:12 <mkonecny> Any questions?
14:16:21 <fm-admin> pagure.issue.comment.added -- smooge commented on ticket fedora-infrastructure#8964: "docs too big to fit on proxies anymore" https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8964#comment-656385
14:16:32 <nils> Other than convenience, is there a reason in our Ansible, other playbooks, roles, vars files, ... are referenced with absolute paths (/srv/web/infra/ansible/...)?
14:17:16 <mkonecny> nils: I don't know, I think smooge, nirik or pingou could have a clue
14:17:22 <misc> historic reason
14:17:24 <dustymabe> abompard_: do you think you could give a final review to https://pagure.io/robosignatory/pull-request/46 ? or maybe help me figure out how to write the test you suggested ?
14:17:36 <misc> the repo predate the apparition of roles in ansible
14:17:48 <misc> and I do guess that's just because no one tried to refactor that
14:18:10 <misc> (to be fair, now I do have access, I could do the clean up with PR, but will wait after the DC move)
14:18:14 <mkonecny> misc: It's hard to find a time for this
14:18:15 <siddharthvipul_> seems like a good easy fixes
14:18:34 <nils> it may be preliminary work I have to do for more CI checks
14:18:38 <mkonecny> siddharthvipul_++
14:18:38 <misc> mkonecny: sleeping is for the weak :p
14:18:54 <nils> because "ansible-playbook --syntax-check" does more than just syntax check :)
14:18:56 <mkonecny> misc: No rest for the wicked
14:18:57 <lrossett> no we are talking
14:19:03 <lrossett> *now
14:19:19 <siddharthvipul_> I think this is a good idea to point some people who are interested in infra contribution (easy ones)
14:19:24 <nils> So I'll put it on my plate, tentatively.
14:19:37 <siddharthvipul_> nils: misc: do you think this would be feasible?
14:20:01 <mkonecny> siddharthvipul: It's also a good way to get familiar with our ansible repo
14:20:02 <nils> If we have a volunteer now? Otherwise it could well be blocking me in which case I'd rather give it a go myself.
14:20:18 <nils> And I'm also not super familiar with it yet, so that fits. :)
14:20:31 <siddharthvipul_> ah, then nevermind :P
14:21:24 <nils> I've also looked into ways to address relative to repo-root, but haven't gotten definite results there yet.
14:22:13 <nils> I guess that settles my question ;)
14:22:14 <smooge> nils, historical, lots of why doesn't this work.. oh copy this working one and use it
14:22:27 <nils> yeah that's what I suspected
14:22:52 <smooge> most playbooks are written under a pressure crunch of MAKE IT WORK NOW, I HAVE BUILDS FAILING
14:23:18 <lrossett> lol
14:23:25 <mkonecny> smooge: yeah, temporary solution, I will fix this later
14:23:35 <siddharthvipul_> seems like everything else lol
14:23:39 <smooge> there is never a later
14:24:10 <fm-admin> pagure.issue.comment.added -- cverna commented on ticket fedora-infrastructure#8949: "bodhi times out on update with many (almost 300) packages" https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8949#comment-656388
14:24:41 <amrmzaki> nils, I can help you at this work
14:24:44 <mkonecny> smooge: Temporary solution is the longest one, but there is always fun when something happens and you need to fix it
14:25:08 <pingou> there is nothing more permanent than a temporary fix
14:25:09 <misc> sometime, i feel like I should force to have "refactor friday", but that is likely going to end like "doc writing friday" and "do my expenses friday"
14:25:24 <smooge> and the fact that anything you say is a permanent fix you find that service is no longer going to be used a day later
14:25:28 <nils> misc, so many Fridays, get in line? :)
14:25:28 <misc> (and morph to "firefighting friday")
14:25:32 <lrossett> I like the idea of refactor friday :)
14:25:58 <smooge> misc, or 'when do I ever have a Friday?' I am on Monday 4 of June
14:26:08 <misc> ah ah
14:26:54 <siddharthvipul_> I have questions for open floor :P
14:27:16 <nils> amrmzaki, if you know of a good way to "address relative to repository root" in Ansible, I'm all ears. I'm currently investigating something relative to the inventory, ansible seems to have special vars for that
14:27:35 <mkonecny> siddharthvipul_: Just ask
14:27:36 * nils yields the floor to siddharthvipul_
14:27:46 <lrossett> there are special vars for plabook dir and inventory dir
14:27:55 <lrossett> and role dir as well I believe
14:28:19 <nils> lrossett, thanks
14:28:27 <siddharthvipul_> 1. is this meeting format working for everyone? I find this not engaging at all (today has been an  exception :P) and it feels very "FYI"
14:28:30 <siddharthvipul_> Often I forget that there is a meeting (in between meetings), I blamed myself for not being super focused but just want to see what you all think?
14:29:03 <lrossett> https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/reference_appendices/special_variables.html#special-variables
14:29:05 <siddharthvipul_> 2. Should we move the meeting to -meeting-X (to not block generic discussion in the channel)? just asking
14:29:09 <fm-admin> pagure.issue.comment.added -- tdawson commented on ticket fedora-infrastructure#8949: "bodhi times out on update with many (almost 300) packages" https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8949#comment-656390
14:29:24 <mkonecny> siddharthvipul_: This should be a quick standup for the sustaining team, so we know what others are working on and if anybody is blocked by anything
14:29:38 <nils> siddharthvipul_, generic discussion and occasional fm-admin burp :)
14:29:47 <siddharthvipul_> nils: yeah
14:29:50 <amrmzaki> playbook_dir variable
14:30:14 <mkonecny> 2. We can move it, we just need to look at free slot in fedora-meeting-X
14:30:35 <siddharthvipul_> mkonecny: regarding 2, we have a bunch of them available :)
14:30:42 <mkonecny> And I'm not sure if this needs to be officially added to some schedule
14:31:29 <mkonecny> siddharthvipul_: Could you look at it?
14:31:39 <siddharthvipul_> mkonecny: look at free schedule?
14:31:45 <siddharthvipul_> yep, I can
14:31:53 <mkonecny> siddharthvipul_++
14:32:06 <mkonecny> thank siddharthvipul_
14:32:17 <nils> The biggest benefit of moving it elsewhere would be not to clash with normal convos, or fm-admin interrupting with the latest commit
14:32:33 <mkonecny> nils: Yeah, I was also thinking about it
14:32:40 * siddharthvipul_ hands power to siddharthvipul
14:32:49 <mkonecny> But for now, I'm ending this one
14:32:54 <mkonecny> #topic Ending meeting
14:32:54 <mkonecny> #info Thank you all for coming. See you next on next meeting.
14:32:54 <mkonecny> #endmeeting