#fedora-blocker-review: f19final-blocker-review-6

Meeting started by tflink at 16:01:57 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. Roll Call (tflink, 16:01:58)
  2. Introduction (tflink, 16:05:56)
    1. Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and freeze exception bugs. (tflink, 16:06:02)
    2. We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 16:06:08)
    3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (tflink, 16:06:08)
    4. The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 16:06:14)
    5. http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink, 16:06:14)
    6. The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink, 16:06:21)
    7. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Final_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:06:22)
    8. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Beta_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:06:24)
    9. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Alpha_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:06:27)
    10. Up for review today, we have: (tflink, 16:06:30)
    11. 12 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 16:06:35)
    12. 11 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 16:06:35)
    13. 14 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (tflink, 16:06:35)
    14. 19 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (tflink, 16:06:35)

  3. (971191) DVD install option unavailable in TUI (tflink, 16:08:27)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=971191 (tflink, 16:08:28)
    2. Accepted Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:08:28)
    3. devs are aware of this bug, waiting for update from them (tflink, 16:10:39)

  4. (968951) g-i-s created user's accounts and settings are copied to new users created after g-i-s completes but before a reboot (tflink, 16:11:24)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=968951 (tflink, 16:11:28)
    2. Accepted Blocker, gnome-initial-setup, NEW (tflink, 16:11:30)
    3. devs are aware of the problem and are working on a fix, nothing for us to do here (tflink, 16:13:14)

  5. (969852) Software Update fails to update (tflink, 16:13:27)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=969852 (tflink, 16:13:27)
    2. Accepted Blocker, gnome-packagekit, ASSIGNED (tflink, 16:13:27)
    3. devs are aware of the issue and are working on it - no significant updates yet (tflink, 16:15:24)

  6. (958426) 19 Final TC1 x86_64 Desktop Live is oversized (larger than 1 GB) (tflink, 16:15:53)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958426 (tflink, 16:15:56)
    2. Accepted Blocker, LiveCD, NEW (tflink, 16:15:59)
    3. devs appear to be aware of the issue and are continuing to work on getting the image size under 1GB (tflink, 16:17:25)

  7. (974643) console=<foo> not passed onto installed system (tflink, 16:20:26)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974643 (tflink, 16:20:26)
    2. Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:20:26)
    3. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=761490&action=diff (adamw, 16:24:29)
    4. AGREED: 974643 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException - Serial console options are persisted for primary arch using grub and as such, this does not violate any release criteria and is not a blocker. However, a tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 16:29:44)

  8. (974711) Drop HAL and beefy install 'ad banners' for F19 final(?) (tflink, 16:29:52)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974711 (tflink, 16:29:55)
    2. Proposed Blocker, fedora-logos, NEW (tflink, 16:29:58)
    3. AGREED: 974711 - AcceptedFreezeException - This is a very visable polish issue that can't be fixed with an update post-release. Waiting on feedback from design team before making a decision on blocker status. (tflink, 16:41:43)

  9. (974063) Ignore Google documents without a thumbnail URI (tflink, 16:42:16)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974063 (tflink, 16:42:16)
    2. Proposed Blocker, gjs, ON_QA (tflink, 16:42:16)
    3. AGREED: 974063 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException - This does not violate any of the F19 release criteria (GNOME Documents works in most cases) and is thus rejected as a release blocking bug for F19 final. However, a tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 16:53:59)

  10. (974778) Wrong locale set by g-s-d with single quote (tflink, 16:54:13)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974778 (tflink, 16:54:13)
    2. Proposed Blocker, gnome-settings-daemon, MODIFIED (tflink, 16:54:13)
    3. AGREED: 974778 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 final release criterion for non-english installs: "All applications listed under the Applications menu or category must withstand a basic functionality test and not crash after a few minutes of normal use." (tflink, 17:04:34)

  11. (974038) [abrt] gnome-shell-3.8.3-1.fc19: wrapped_gobj_toggle_notify: Process /usr/bin/gnome-shell was killed by signal 5 (SIGTRAP) (tflink, 17:04:41)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974038 (tflink, 17:04:44)
    2. Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (tflink, 17:04:47)
    3. AGREED: 974038 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't seem to be happening often enough to justify blocking the release of F19. Please repropose as a blocker if more reports start coming in. If upstream is of the opinion that this is important, please propose as FE. (tflink, 17:17:32)

  12. (974032) bug reporting doesn't work from LiveCD (tflink, 17:17:41)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974032 (tflink, 17:17:41)
    2. Proposed Blocker, python-meh, POST (tflink, 17:17:41)
    3. AGREED: 974032 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 alpha release criterion for live installs: "The installer must be able to report failures to Bugzilla, with appropriate information included." (tflink, 17:25:52)

  13. (974691) Since cleaning up from #974132, nothing gets written to /var/log/messages (tflink, 17:26:03)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974691 (tflink, 17:26:06)
    2. Proposed Blocker, rsyslog, NEW (tflink, 17:26:09)
    3. http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_2.3/fhs-2.3.html#VARLOGLOGFILESANDDIRECTORIES (adamw, 17:31:33)
    4. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/Packaging/LogFiles <-- for 600 components ( which of like only 3 depend on rsyslogd ) is whats needed to fix this (Viking-Ice, 17:33:45)
    5. AGREED: 974691 - We need more data on how many people are affected by this bug and whether any of the listed workarounds work. Will revisit when more data is available. (tflink, 17:37:21)

  14. (973849) SELinux is preventing /usr/libexec/accounts-daemon from 'read' accesses on the directory /var/log. (tflink, 17:38:36)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=973849 (tflink, 17:38:39)
    2. Proposed Blocker, selinux-policy-targeted, ON_QA (tflink, 17:38:42)
    3. AGREED: 973849 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 final release criterion: "In most cases, there must be no SELinux 'AVC: denied' messages or abrt crash notifications on initial boot and subsequent login (see Blocker_Bug_FAQ)" (tflink, 17:43:58)

  15. (974784) live image composing in koji broken (tflink, 17:44:13)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974784 (tflink, 17:44:13)
    2. Proposed Blocker, system-config-keyboard, NEW (tflink, 17:44:13)
    3. AGREED: 974784 - AcceptedBlocker - This blocks the process for creating live images and we can't continue testing until it is fixed. Thus, accepted as a release blocking bug for F19 final. (tflink, 17:48:21)

  16. (974198) missing letters on various anaconda screens with spice graphics (tflink, 17:48:33)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974198 (tflink, 17:48:36)
    2. Proposed Blocker, virt-manager, NEW (tflink, 17:48:39)
    3. http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2013-06-17_17_58_57-TLblAN5e.png (Viking-Ice, 18:03:24)
    4. AGREED: 974198 - AcceptedBlocker - While the cause is still not 100% clear, this appears to be serious and widespread enough to justify blocker status. Violates the following F19 release criterion for live installs in a VM using spice/qxl (installation screens are garbled, making the process difficult if not impossible): "The installer must be able to complete an installation using all supported interfaces" (tflink, 18:12:43)

  17. (924162) A software selection with dependency errors is allowed to proceed if the dependency check runs twice (tflink, 18:12:59)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=924162 (tflink, 18:13:02)
    2. Proposed Blocker, yum, NEW (tflink, 18:13:05)
    3. AGREED: 924162 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 alpha release criteria for netinstalls when the main repos have depsolving errors, leading to a broken install: "When doing a graphical install using the dedicated installer images, the installer must be able to install each of the release blocking desktops, as well as the minimal package set." (tflink, 18:36:54)

  18. (968808) Interlingua installs result in errors setting locale and apparent failure of g-i-s to create a user account (tflink, 18:43:53)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=968808 (tflink, 18:43:56)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:43:58)
    3. AGREED: 968808 - AcceptedFreezeException - Locale issues post-install can be pretty ugly and would be best to fix before release. A tested fix would be considered after freeze. (tflink, 18:51:10)

  19. (971050) initial-setup runs to completion on F19-TC1 but does not make any changes (tflink, 18:51:20)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=971050 (tflink, 18:51:23)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, initial-setup, POST (tflink, 18:51:26)
    3. AGREED: 971050 - AcceptedFreezeException - This causes problems in the initial configuration of the ARM images and would be nice to fix prior to release. A tested fix would be considered after freeze. (tflink, 18:59:39)

  20. (971117) No processing for event 'report_Uploader' is defined (tflink, 19:00:47)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=971117 (tflink, 19:00:50)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, libreport, ON_QA (tflink, 19:00:52)
    3. AGREED: 971117 - AcceptedFreezeException - The file reporter is not required to work in the event of an installer traceback but it can be rather useful and can't be fixed with a post-release update. A tested fix would be considered after freeze. (tflink, 19:03:40)

  21. Open Floor (tflink, 19:06:33)


Meeting ended at 19:18:40 UTC (full logs).

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