#fedora-blocker-review: F25-blocker-review

Meeting started by adamw at 16:02:18 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. Roll Call (adamw, 16:02:22)
  2. Introduction (adamw, 16:09:04)
    1. Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (adamw, 16:09:04)
    2. We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:09:06)
    3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (adamw, 16:09:06)
    4. The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:09:08)
    5. http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw, 16:09:10)
    6. The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw, 16:09:12)
    7. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_25_Alpha_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:09:16)
    8. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_25_Beta_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:09:18)
    9. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_25_Final_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:09:20)
    10. coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:09:22)
    11. 6 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:09:47)
    12. 9 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:09:47)
    13. 3 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:09:51)
    14. 3 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:09:51)

  3. (1383890) blivet.errors.DeviceError: ('cannot replace active format', 'sdc1') (adamw, 16:10:02)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1383890 (adamw, 16:10:02)
    2. Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (adamw, 16:10:02)
    3. AGREED: 1383890 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - we're provisionally accepting this as it does pretty much meet the criteria, but we're open to anaconda team arguing that this should not be a blocker (they were not available at the meeting) (adamw, 16:27:44)

  4. (1385684) Cannot install F25 from local hard disk using Fedora Workstation live ISO (adamw, 16:27:54)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1385684 (adamw, 16:27:54)
    2. Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (adamw, 16:27:54)
    3. AGREED: 1385684 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - the criteria definition of 'supported media' (from Alpha) does not include direct booting the ISO from a hard disk, so we don't consider this scenario covered by the criteria (adamw, 16:38:43)

  5. (1376471) global menu can't be used for 15-30 seconds, startup notification stuck, missing item in alt+tab (on wayland) (adamw, 16:38:59)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1376471 (adamw, 16:38:59)
    2. Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 16:38:59)
    3. AGREED: 1376471 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is considered to effectively violate "All elements of the default panel (or equivalent) configuration in all release-blocking desktops must function correctly in typical use" as it affects expected use of core Shell functions with standard apps (adamw, 16:49:37)

  6. (1188774) [anaconda] white screen on external monitor attached to a Lenovo ThinkPad T400 when docked and lid closed (adamw, 16:49:45)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1188774 (adamw, 16:49:45)
    2. Proposed Blocker, metacity, NEW (adamw, 16:49:45)
    3. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=725219 (adamw, 16:55:52)
    4. AGREED: 1188774 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - Fedora's behaviour in this case has not changed for many releases and this bug is only a very conditional violation of the criteria (adamw, 17:02:04)

  7. (1384482) Screenshots and screencasts don't work on Wayland with multiple monitors (regression) (adamw, 17:02:12)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1384482 (adamw, 17:02:12)
    2. Proposed Blocker, mutter, NEW (adamw, 17:02:12)
    3. AGREED: 1384482 - RejectedBlocker (Final), AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - we don't consider this severe enough to constitute a violation of the cited criterion, but we do think it's significant enough to warrant taking a fix through freeze if we get to that point (adamw, 17:11:08)

  8. (1382001) Switching between users doesn't work and freezes the desktop (adamw, 17:11:15)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1382001 (adamw, 17:11:15)
    2. Proposed Blocker, sddm, NEW (adamw, 17:11:15)
    3. AGREED: 1382001 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is considered a violation of "Shutting down, logging out and rebooting must work using standard console commands and the mechanisms offered (if any) by all release-blocking desktops" as 'switch user' is an offered mechanism, with 1184933 as precedent (adamw, 17:25:02)

  9. (1379098) [Regression] Gnome-shell crashes on switching back from tty ([abrt] gnome-shell: wl_resource_post_event(): gnome-shell killed by SIGSEGV) (adamw, 17:28:42)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1379098 (adamw, 17:28:50)
    2. Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 17:29:01)
    3. AGREED: 1379098 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a blocker as a violation of "All known bugs that can cause corruption of user data must be fixed or documented at Common F25 bugs", as proposed in comment #12 (adamw, 18:02:29)

  10. Open floor (adamw, 18:04:22)


Meeting ended at 18:08:38 UTC (full logs).

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