17:00:20 #startmeeting F26-blocker-review 17:00:20 Meeting started Mon Feb 27 17:00:20 2017 UTC. The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:20 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:20 The meeting name has been set to 'f26-blocker-review' 17:00:21 #meetingname F26-blocker-review 17:00:21 #topic Roll Call 17:00:21 The meeting name has been set to 'f26-blocker-review' 17:00:29 howdy folks, who's around for blocker funtimes? 17:00:36 * kparal 17:01:19 #chair kparal 17:01:19 Current chairs: adamw kparal 17:01:25 * coremodule is here, ready to secretarialze if needed! 17:01:35 i'm gonna leave the meeting open for a bit for people to get coffee etc. 17:01:39 #info coremodule will secretarialize 17:01:41 #chair coremodule 17:01:41 Current chairs: adamw coremodule kparal 17:01:42 * pschindl_ is here 17:01:46 * garretraziel is here 17:01:52 * pwhalen is here 17:02:38 how's everyone's monday? 17:03:02 Manic 17:03:59 terrible as usual 17:04:03 manic monday sounds like name of video game from eighties 17:04:11 it's a song from the 80s 17:04:17 or, wait, is the song actually called that? 17:04:28 anyone win any oscars last night? 17:04:33 yes 17:04:37 it's called that 17:04:49 garretraziel: you're too young to know that 17:04:59 haha, kids these days 17:05:13 /me feels old 17:05:55 alrighty, everyone got coffee? 17:05:55 garretraziel: You may have been thinking of Maniac Mansion, FWIW 17:08:09 let's get rolling 17:08:16 #topic Introduction 17:08:17 Why are we here? 17:08:17 #info Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. 17:08:17 #info We'll be following the process outlined at: 17:08:18 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting 17:08:18 #info The bugs up for review today are available at: 17:08:21 #link http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current 17:08:23 #info The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: 17:08:24 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_26_Alpha_Release_Criteria 17:08:26 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_26_Beta_Release_Criteria 17:08:28 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_26_Final_Release_Criteria 17:08:45 #info 2 Proposed Blockers (Alpha) 17:09:05 #info 2 Proposed Blockers (Final) 17:09:12 #info 9 Accepted Blockers (Alpha) 17:09:17 #info 1 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (Alpha) 17:09:38 as mentioned, coremodule will secretarialize, thanks 17:09:48 let's go ahead with alpha blockers 17:09:55 #topic (1405790) certmonger: FTBFS in Fedora Rawhide 17:09:55 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1405790 17:09:55 #info Proposed Blocker, certmonger, NEW 17:10:07 adam, no problemo! 17:10:14 *adamw 17:10:46 basically certmonger is part of the freeipa chain, it needs rebuilding for a bumped libxmlrpc, but it can't be built right now. 17:11:47 Oof, sorry. Getting pulled into a meeting. 17:11:51 +1 blocker on this, FWIW 17:12:45 * adamw pulls on sgallagh's feet 17:12:50 +1 17:14:25 +1 blocker 17:15:15 +1 17:15:32 proposed #agreed 1405790 - AcceptedBlocker (Alpha) - clearly violates "It must be possible to join the system to a FreeIPA or Active Directory domain at install time and post-install, and the system must respect the identity, authentication and access control configuration provided by the domain" as freeipa-client cannot be installed 17:15:50 ack 17:15:52 ack 17:16:08 * roshi arrives late 17:16:40 ack 17:16:50 #agreed 1405790 - AcceptedBlocker (Alpha) - clearly violates "It must be possible to join the system to a FreeIPA or Active Directory domain at install time and post-install, and the system must respect the identity, authentication and access control configuration provided by the domain" as freeipa-client cannot be installed 17:16:57 #topic (1422634) selinux prevents kernel modules from loading 17:16:58 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1422634 17:16:58 #info Proposed Blocker, selinux-policy, ON_QA 17:17:31 sounds like AVCs prevent vital modules loading on ARM 17:17:34 so, +1 for me 17:17:43 +1 17:17:52 yes, +1 17:17:58 +1 17:18:09 +1 17:18:14 +1 17:18:21 +1 17:19:27 proposed #agreed 1422634 - AcceptedBlocker (Alpha) - clearly violates the cited criterion and multiple others on armhfp (a release-blocking arch) 17:20:08 ack 17:20:09 ack 17:20:25 ack 17:20:37 #agreed 1422634 - AcceptedBlocker (Alpha) - clearly violates the cited criterion and multiple others on armhfp (a release-blocking arch) 17:20:46 alright, that's all the proposals for alpha 17:20:51 #info moving on to proposed Final blockers 17:21:07 #topic (1340203) goa-daemon not stopped on logout, and gnome-keyring unusable on next log in 17:21:07 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1340203 17:21:08 #info Proposed Blocker, gnome-online-accounts, NEW 17:22:52 so, we punted this one for feedback 17:22:53 I'd approve this on the grounds that it affects everyone or the vast majority. if that turns out to be not true, we can withdraw the blocker status 17:23:03 we got some feedback from mcatanzaro in #c33 17:23:10 based on that i agree with kparal 17:24:12 any other thoughts? 17:24:43 +1, vast majority is bad 17:24:43 +1 17:24:51 I'm +1 17:25:33 +1 17:25:35 alrighty 17:26:12 proposed #agreed 1340203 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - on the grounds that this likely affects all users who log out or switch user, this is accepted as a conditional violation of "Saving passwords to and retrieving passwords from the default keyring must work for all release-blocking desktops" in the case of a logout or user switch 17:26:26 ack 17:26:35 ack 17:26:41 ack 17:26:42 ack 17:26:56 ack 17:27:04 ac 17:27:06 k 17:27:27 kca 17:27:31 #agreed 1340203 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - on the grounds that this likely affects all users who log out or switch user, this is accepted as a conditional violation of "Saving passwords to and retrieving passwords from the default keyring must work for all release-blocking desktops" in the case of a logout or user switch 17:27:37 and finally, our old friend... 17:27:42 #topic (1405539) changing the default keyboard layout changes also disk decryption in plymouth, but only after kernel update, long after 17:27:42 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1405539 17:27:42 #info Proposed Blocker, plymouth, NEW 17:27:47 everyone get some popcorn, we're back 17:27:52 heh 17:28:42 somebody volunteered last time to contact the teams 17:29:18 i hope it wasn't me 17:29:42 anyone has a handy link to the log? 17:29:43 "ACTION: kohane to ask i18n/l10n/desktop teams for input on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1405539" 17:29:49 * adamw goes to check lists 17:30:04 I didn't see it in desktop ML 17:30:35 I'm not subscribed to [a-z][0-9]{2}[a-z] lists 17:30:40 hehe 17:30:45 i don't see it on i18n or trans lists 17:31:14 so, in true zaphod beeblebrox fashion (or was it ford prefect?), we'd better send someone to check on the person who went to check 17:31:45 #info kohane volunteered to check opinions from g11n folks on this last time, but we can't find any record of that happening yet 17:32:52 uh, I don't want to deal with that, I'm so tired of it 17:32:59 #action adamw to check in on kohane checking in on g11n 17:33:06 but if there's no one else, I'll do it 17:33:29 i got it 17:33:35 adamw, just checking in with you about checking in with the check in 17:33:48 * adamw checks in with roshi about coremodule checking in with him 17:34:01 check 17:34:13 checked check 17:34:32 check please! 17:34:38 Czech? 17:34:48 we need a system to handle generic checks... 17:35:00 coremodule: that's the pun I just figured as well :) 17:35:06 proposed #agreed 1405539 - punt (delay decision) again - as we didn't get the expected g11n check-in, we don't have any more info to make our decision 17:35:19 roshi: what about a system to handle generic czechs? 17:35:28 :P 17:35:36 I don't know if there is such a thing as a "generic" czech 17:35:44 beer drinking... 17:35:55 that's generic "human" 17:36:25 ack 17:36:26 roshi: you haven't been to Czechia, have you 17:36:32 I haven 17:36:33 't 17:36:36 also vegetarian meaning chicken 17:36:42 or fish 17:36:50 I've only met a few of our Fedora folks :) 17:37:41 any more acks? 17:38:01 oh 17:38:02 ack 17:38:02 ack 17:38:30 #agreed 1405539 - punt (delay decision) again - as we didn't get the expected g11n check-in, we don't have any more info to make our decision 17:38:39 that's all the blocker proposals, and we don't have any FE proposals 17:39:05 there's quite a few accepted blockers, i think i'll do some manual weeding of them this week and we can do a check-in on remaining ones next week...sound good? 17:39:37 👍 17:39:52 more checks? count me in 17:39:59 sounds good 17:41:44 #info we'll do an accepted blocker checkin next week 17:41:46 #topic Open floor 17:41:53 any other blocker / f26 schedule-related business? 17:42:00 * roshi has nothing at this point 17:46:35 alrighty then, we can get finished (relatively) early 17:46:42 go forth to the pub, our czech friends 17:46:47 thanks for coming, everyone! 17:46:49 * adamw sets the fuse 17:48:30 #endmeeting