16:00:40 <roshi> #startmeeting F26-blocker-review
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16:00:40 <roshi> #meetingname F26-blocker-review
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16:00:40 <roshi> #topic Roll Call
16:00:51 <roshi> who's around for some blocker review?
16:01:25 <roshi> #chair adamw jkurik
16:01:25 <zodbot> Current chairs: adamw jkurik roshi
16:01:39 * satellit listening
16:01:52 <roshi> #chair satellit
16:01:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: adamw jkurik roshi satellit
16:01:58 <roshi> welcome satellit
16:02:10 <jkurik> .hello jkurik
16:02:11 <zodbot> jkurik: jkurik 'Jan Kurik' <jkurik@redhat.com>
16:04:46 * roshi waits for more people to show up
16:05:26 * pschindl_wfh is here
16:05:46 <roshi> welcome pschindl_wfh
16:05:50 <roshi> #chair pschindl_wfh
16:05:50 <zodbot> Current chairs: adamw jkurik pschindl_wfh roshi satellit
16:08:45 * roshi has pinged people
16:08:49 <pschindl_wfh> I can do the secretary stuff today
16:10:17 <roshi> thanks pschindl_wfh :D
16:13:14 * kparal is here, almost forgot
16:13:22 <roshi> welcome kparal
16:13:27 <roshi> #chair kparal
16:13:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: adamw jkurik kparal pschindl_wfh roshi satellit
16:13:36 <roshi> I think we can get started
16:13:50 <roshi> hopefully adamw gets here sometime
16:14:09 <roshi> #topic Introduction
16:14:09 <roshi> Why are we here?
16:14:09 <roshi> #info Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs.
16:14:13 <roshi> #info We'll be following the process outlined at:
16:14:16 <roshi> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
16:14:18 <roshi> #info The bugs up for review today are available at:
16:14:21 <roshi> #link http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current
16:14:23 <roshi> #info The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at:
16:14:26 <roshi> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_26_Alpha_Release_Criteria
16:14:29 <roshi> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_26_Beta_Release_Criteria
16:14:32 <roshi> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_26_Final_Release_Criteria
16:14:45 <roshi> 2 proposed
16:15:09 <roshi> first up
16:15:14 <roshi> #topic (1440417) Firmware for Intel(R) Dual Band Wireless AC 8260 not included on ISO
16:15:17 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1440417
16:15:19 <roshi> #info Proposed Blocker, lorax, POST
16:17:19 <dustymabe> .hello dustymabe
16:17:21 <zodbot> dustymabe: dustymabe 'Dusty Mabe' <dustymabe@redhat.com>
16:17:25 <roshi> for the record, sgallagh was -1 on this
16:17:57 <jkurik> I am not sure how many people are affected by this. I am +1 for FE and probably +0 for a blocker
16:18:45 <roshi> yeah
16:19:43 <roshi> -1 blocker +1 FE
16:20:53 <roshi> kparal, pschindl_wfh ?
16:21:15 <kparal> -1 blocker, +1 fe
16:23:08 <roshi> proposed #agreed - RHBZ#1440417 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException - We're not convinced this bug affects enough people to be a blocker, but we would consider a fix during freeze to remedy this issue.
16:23:20 <jkurik> ack
16:23:31 <kparal> ack
16:23:34 <roshi> #agreed - RHBZ#1440417 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException - We're not convinced this bug affects enough people to be a blocker, but we would consider a fix during freeze to remedy this issue.
16:23:42 <roshi> #topic (1170803) calls e2fsck on all ext volumes, provides no status indicator, and hangs indefinitely if e2fsck doesn't exit
16:23:45 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1170803
16:23:47 <roshi> #info Proposed Blocker, python-blivet, ASSIGNED
16:25:23 <kparal> cmurf's comment 88 makes a lot of sense to me
16:26:03 <kparal> if we reject this solely on 'too late, too big change' grounds, we should automatically make it a blocker for F27 (not sure which milestone)
16:26:22 <dustymabe> wow this bug is from 2014
16:27:14 <roshi> yeah
16:27:28 <roshi> I'd say F27 Alpha
16:27:45 <roshi> since this was an alpha criterion violation to begin with, right?
16:27:52 <kparal> I have to agree that automatically fixing errors on all partitions is quite aggressive from anaconda
16:28:00 <roshi> yeah
16:28:03 <kparal> but I'm not really sure the cited criterion was written with this in mind
16:28:47 <roshi> -1 for now, but I'd be +1 F27 Alpha blocker
16:29:28 <dustymabe> so basically this would require a fix in anaconda?
16:29:43 <roshi> yeah
16:29:53 <kparal> I'd be interested in hearing adamw's thoughts on this
16:30:02 * dustymabe is sad we dropped stuff like this
16:30:03 <jkurik> right, -1 for now, +1 F27 Alpha blocker
16:30:19 <kparal> but I'm fine with the current suggestion
16:30:26 <dustymabe> -1 blocker +1 27 alpha blocker
16:31:56 <roshi> proposed #agreed - RHBZ#1170803 - RejectedBlocker (F26 Beta) AcceptedBlocker (F27Alpha) - This bug has been in existence for a while now, and it's too sweeping of a change to accept for F26 Beta. However, per the logic in Comment 88, we've accepted this as a violation of the Alpha "No disks touched" criterion for F27.
16:32:27 * roshi thinks he got a good summation in there
16:32:36 <roshi> yeah, I'm curious what adams take is on this too
16:32:39 <dustymabe> ack
16:32:45 <jkurik> ack
16:32:58 <kparal> ack
16:33:08 <roshi> #agreed - RHBZ#1170803 - RejectedBlocker (F26 Beta) AcceptedBlocker (F27Alpha) - This bug has been in existence for a while now, and it's too sweeping of a change to accept for F26 Beta. However, per the logic in Comment 88, we've accepted this as a violation of the Alpha "No disks touched" criterion for F27.
16:33:27 <roshi> ok, we've got 4 proposed FEs for Beta
16:33:34 <roshi> #topic (1455295) failed x86 changes broke aarch64 cloud images
16:33:34 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1455295
16:33:35 <roshi> #info Proposed Freeze Exceptions, distribution, NEW
16:35:01 <kparal> +1 fe
16:35:39 <roshi> +1
16:35:40 <jkurik> heh, nice description: So Dusty pushed a badly tested change :-)
16:35:47 <jkurik> +1 FE
16:36:34 <dustymabe> jkurik: i think comment #3 sums it up
16:36:48 <roshi> proposed #agreed - RHBZ#1455295 - AcceptedFreezeException - A tested fix exists for this and we'd like to pull this in.
16:36:55 <roshi> I lol'd at first
16:37:02 <roshi> but agree with comment 3
16:37:05 <dustymabe> +1 FE
16:37:10 <jkurik> ack
16:37:46 <dustymabe> i like how we must make sure we don't break secondary architectures, but we also don't have any access to that hardware
16:37:53 <dustymabe> and not way to do scratch image builds ourselves
16:38:03 <pschindl_wfh> ack
16:38:04 <dustymabe> s/not/no
16:38:07 <roshi> #agreed - RHBZ#1455295 - AcceptedFreezeException - A tested fix exists for this and we'd like to pull this in.
16:38:16 <roshi> yeah, it's ... problem
16:38:16 * sgallagh shows up late
16:38:20 <roshi> thanks sgallagh
16:38:37 * roshi has assigned you everything and put words into your mouth
16:38:51 <jkurik> dustymabe: no problem with the change/bug, just the "pointing" in the description looks funny
16:39:07 <sgallagh> roshi: How is that different from when I'm here in time?
16:39:20 <roshi> none - which is why I felt comfortable doing it :p
16:39:21 <dustymabe> jkurik: :)
16:40:09 <roshi> #topic (1455299) Add missing Power64 docker/cloud images to F-26 Beta compose
16:40:12 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1455299
16:40:15 <roshi> #info Proposed Freeze Exceptions, distribution, NEW
16:41:12 <jkurik> +1 FE
16:41:18 <pschindl_wfh> +1 FE
16:41:23 <dustymabe> so i think dgilmore merged a change that made it so failed 2nd arches don't fail x86_64 cloud images
16:41:30 <dustymabe> assuming that is true, then +1 FE
16:41:43 <sgallagh> Ok, dustymabe answered the question I was just typing
16:41:56 <sgallagh> +1 FE
16:42:27 <Southern_Gentlem> +fe
16:43:03 <dustymabe> roshi: can you include the comment about making sure failed 2nd arches don't fail primaries in the #agreed comment?
16:43:45 * roshi reads
16:43:50 <roshi> was refilling coffee
16:45:51 <roshi> proposed #agreed - RHBZ#1455299 - AcceptedFreezeException - We'd like to see this change pulled in, provided failures of the secondary arches don't have an impact on primary arches.
16:46:11 <sgallagh> ack
16:46:11 <dustymabe> ack
16:46:14 <jkurik> ack
16:46:25 <dustymabe> roshi: let me know when we hit the end of the proposed freeze exceptions
16:46:28 <pschindl_wfh> ack
16:46:31 <roshi> #agreed - RHBZ#1455299 - AcceptedFreezeException - We'd like to see this change pulled in, provided failures of the secondary arches don't have an impact on primary arches.
16:46:35 <roshi> will do dustymabe
16:46:42 <roshi> #topic (1450639) [abrt] gnome-shell: operator delete(): gnome-shell killed by signal 6
16:46:45 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1450639
16:46:48 <roshi> #info Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gnome-shell, NEW
16:49:18 <dustymabe> hmm
16:49:42 <sgallagh> -1 FE. there's not enough information and I 'd rather not risk destabilizing GNOME to try and rush a fix.
16:49:55 <sgallagh> This is firmly in the "can be fixed with an update" class of bugs
16:50:10 <roshi> I'm -1 because others haven't really seen it, and it's not a huge issue
16:50:19 <dustymabe> do we even have a proposed fix?
16:50:30 <kparal> I don't see any response from gnome dev
16:50:33 <roshi> nope
16:50:40 <dustymabe> maybe we can -1 FE and then say we can revisit if a proposed fix is non-invasive
16:50:41 <kparal> it's pointless to discuss this
16:50:59 <kparal> -1 fe until there's dev response or a proposed fix
16:51:19 <dustymabe> agree -1 with those caveats
16:51:25 <jkurik> -1 FE
16:51:39 <roshi> proposed #agreed - RHBZ#1450639 - RejectedFreezeException - There's no proposed fix for this and not enough information to justify breaking freeze if a fix shows up.
16:51:47 <kparal> ack
16:52:04 <jkurik> ack
16:52:06 <roshi> #agreed - RHBZ#1450639 - RejectedFreezeException - There's no proposed fix for this and not enough information to justify breaking freeze if a fix shows up.
16:52:16 <roshi> #topic (1440417) Firmware for Intel(R) Dual Band Wireless AC 8260 not included on ISO
16:52:20 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1440417
16:52:22 <roshi> #info Proposed Freeze Exceptions, lorax, POST
16:52:24 <roshi> dustymabe: last FE proposal
16:52:42 <roshi> already did this one
16:52:57 <roshi> #info already discussed this during blocker discussion
16:53:06 <roshi> #topic Accepted Blocker review
16:53:16 <roshi> #topic (1454897) Release-blocking Cloud base images missing from Fedora 26 composes
16:53:17 <dustymabe> roshi: i have one more freeze exception
16:53:19 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1454897
16:53:22 <roshi> #info Accepted Blocker, distribution, ON_QA
16:53:23 <roshi> ah
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16:53:37 <dustymabe> :( sorry that last one went fast
16:53:40 <roshi> go for it dustymabe
16:53:46 <dustymabe> roshi: this one
16:53:50 <dustymabe> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1456901
16:54:07 <dustymabe> i proposed it like 30 minutes ago, but it hasn't shown up in the app yet
16:55:22 <roshi> this only impacts the atomiccli package?
16:55:25 <roshi> if so, +1
16:55:40 <dustymabe> roshi: yes, it only affects atomic CLI package
16:55:48 <jkurik> +1 FE
16:56:29 <sgallagh> +1 FE
16:56:36 <roshi> proposed #agreed - RHBZ#1456901 - AcceptedFreezeException - Since this affects only one package that doesn't impact any deliverables, we're comfortable pulling in this change.
16:56:47 <jkurik> ack
16:56:53 <dustymabe> ack
16:56:55 <dustymabe> thanks all
16:57:56 <roshi> #agreed - RHBZ#1456901 - AcceptedFreezeException - Since this affects only one package that doesn't impact any deliverables, we're comfortable pulling in this change.
16:58:16 <roshi> onto reviewing the accpeted blockers
16:58:17 <roshi> #topic (1454897) Release-blocking Cloud base images missing from Fedora 26 composes
16:58:20 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1454897
16:58:22 <roshi> #info Accepted Blocker, distribution, ON_QA
16:59:07 <roshi> #info this looks to be fixed, will confirm with next RC
16:59:12 <dustymabe> yep
16:59:14 <roshi> #topic (1443415) [TRACKING] Upgrade f25 to f26 get stuck in Cleanup
16:59:15 <Southern_Gentlem> +1fe
16:59:17 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1443415
16:59:19 <roshi> #info Accepted Blocker, dnf, ASSIGNED
17:01:09 <jkurik> looks like there is still no fix
17:01:12 <roshi> #info work is still ongoing to get this fixed so we can get a compose for testing
17:01:59 <roshi> onto the next...
17:01:59 <roshi> #topic (1438046) initial-setup.service: Failed to set up stdin: Inappropriate ioctl for device
17:02:03 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1438046
17:02:05 <roshi> #info Accepted Blocker, initial-setup, ON_QA
17:02:50 <roshi> looks like an update has been pushed to this
17:02:57 <dustymabe> i have to run grab food before they close the cafeteria,  talk to you guys in a bit
17:02:59 <roshi> pwhalen: you around to confirm that it works?
17:03:05 <roshi> gl hf dustymabe
17:05:25 <roshi> #info fix has been pushed
17:05:34 <roshi> #topic (1443206) gnome-shell consistently crashes in the middle of first-login gnome-initial-setup
17:05:37 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1443206
17:05:40 <roshi> #info Accepted Blocker, libgweather, ON_QA
17:06:23 <roshi> #info A tested fix will get pulled into the next compose.
17:06:32 <roshi> #topic (1446879) [abrt] gnome-shell: gweather_location_unref(): gnome-shell killed by signal 11
17:06:35 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1446879
17:06:37 <roshi> #info Accepted Blocker, libgweather, ON_QA
17:07:01 <roshi> anyone have any updates for this?
17:07:30 <jkurik> I do not have any
17:07:32 <pwhalen> roshi, sorry was afk, I'll update bz today
17:08:10 <roshi> no worries pwhalen - thanks
17:09:02 <roshi> #info looks like a fix has been pushed, and should land in the next compose
17:09:10 <roshi> #topic (1348688) Anaconda cannot access LVM partitions in a LUKS-encrypted disk partition after decryption
17:09:13 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1348688
17:09:15 <roshi> #info Accepted Blocker, lvm2, ON_QA
17:09:52 <roshi> no more movement, it looks like
17:10:14 <jkurik> yeah
17:10:20 <roshi> but an update has been pushed, so that's good
17:10:28 <jkurik> ack
17:10:44 <roshi> #info an update has been pushed for this and we'll see it in the next compose. Please test the update if you can.
17:11:20 <jkurik> so, except a missing fix for #1443415, we are ready for RC
17:11:43 <roshi> yeah
17:11:52 <roshi> well, we have 6 proposed blockers for Final
17:12:02 <roshi> so time to go through those as well, if people are around
17:12:41 <jkurik> I am here
17:12:48 <kparal> hmm
17:13:07 * jkurik is going for a bit of vodka to survive next 6 blockers :-)
17:13:20 <roshi> unless we want to break now and deal with these blocker next meeting, after Beta (hopefully)
17:13:22 <pschindl_wfh> I have to leave now. So someone has to do the secretary stuff
17:13:31 <roshi> thanks pschindl_wfh
17:14:11 * kparal is trying to make his child sleep
17:14:19 <kparal> my hands are literally full :)
17:14:49 <roshi> +1 to break now and discuss these next time around?
17:15:09 <kparal> sounds good
17:15:14 <jkurik> ok, why not
17:15:27 <roshi> kparal: blocker review with "full hands" is Blocker Review v2
17:15:38 * roshi knows :p
17:17:26 <roshi> #topic Open Floor
17:17:39 <roshi> anyone have anything for open floor?
17:17:55 <jkurik> nothing from me
17:18:20 <roshi> thanks for coming folks!
17:18:27 * roshi crosses his fingers about an RC soon
17:18:32 * roshi also sets the fuse...
17:18:33 <roshi> 3...
17:19:22 <jkurik> roshi++
17:19:27 <roshi> 2...
17:19:53 <roshi> 1...
17:19:56 <jkurik> roshi: thanks for chairing
17:20:01 <roshi> see you all on #fedora-qa
17:20:06 <roshi> np jkurik :)
17:20:14 <roshi> #endmeeting