17:01:06 <adamw> #startmeeting F27-8-blocker-review
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17:01:06 <adamw> #meetingname F27-8-blocker-review
17:01:07 <adamw> #topic Roll Call
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17:01:19 * sumantro is here
17:02:14 <adamw> morning folks, sumantro
17:02:16 * pschindl is here
17:02:33 * coremodule is here. Good morning adamw, sumantro, pschindl
17:02:36 <adamw> sgallagh: ping
17:02:36 <zodbot> adamw: Ping with data, please: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/No_naked_pings
17:02:49 * siddharthvipul is here
17:02:58 <sumantro> good morning adamw coremodule pschindl :)
17:03:42 * kparal lurks
17:03:59 <pschindl> coremodule: Good morning
17:04:16 <adamw> hi everyone
17:04:19 <pschindl> And good morning to adamw too :)
17:04:21 <adamw> c'mon out, sgallagh, you can't hide
17:04:25 <adamw> i was talking to you just a minute ago
17:04:26 <adamw> :P
17:04:28 <pschindl> sumantro: good evening
17:04:41 <adamw> everyone had a good weekend?
17:04:53 * sgallagh is here for the next 24 minutes
17:05:43 * adamw sends Top Men to fiddle with sgallagh's clock
17:05:44 <sumantro> mine was great , adamw how was yours ?
17:05:50 <adamw> not bad thanks
17:06:05 * sgallagh sighs. Now I have to bury *another* pair of MIBs?
17:06:28 <adamw> alrighty, bureaucracy alert
17:06:33 <adamw> #chair sumantro coremodule sgallagh
17:06:33 <zodbot> Current chairs: adamw coremodule sgallagh sumantro
17:06:33 <coremodule> uh oh
17:06:45 <adamw> #topic Introduction
17:06:45 <adamw> Why are we here?
17:06:45 <adamw> #info Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs.
17:06:45 <adamw> #info We'll be following the process outlined at:
17:06:46 <adamw> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
17:06:46 <adamw> #info The bugs up for review today are available at:
17:06:48 <adamw> #link http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current
17:06:50 <adamw> #info The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at:
17:06:52 <adamw> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria
17:06:54 <adamw> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_28_Beta_Release_Criteria
17:06:56 <adamw> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_28_Final_Release_Criteria
17:06:58 <adamw> (also the F27 pages, for Server)
17:07:14 <adamw> For Server Final, we have:
17:07:15 <adamw> #info 1 Proposed Blockers
17:07:29 <adamw> #undo
17:07:29 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by adamw at 17:07:15 : 1 Proposed Blockers
17:07:37 <adamw> #info 1 Proposed Blockers (F27 Server)
17:07:42 <adamw> #info 3 Proposed Blockers (F28 Beta)
17:07:50 <adamw> and that's all
17:07:54 <adamw> who wants to secretarialize?
17:08:04 <adamw> only four bugs to do, and you get paid just the same as a normal week!
17:08:05 * coremodule will do it.
17:08:10 <adamw> (that's 100% of 0)
17:08:13 <coremodule> that sounds like a good deal
17:08:14 <adamw> thanks coremodule
17:08:21 <adamw> #info coremodule to secretarialize)
17:08:24 <adamw> #undo
17:08:24 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by adamw at 17:08:21 : coremodule to secretarialize)
17:08:27 <adamw> #info coremodule to secretarialize
17:08:39 <sgallagh> I want a raise. In fact, please double my salary.
17:08:39 <adamw> one day, if i've been very good, santa is going to teach me to type.
17:08:42 <adamw> DONE
17:08:47 <sgallagh> \o/
17:08:50 <adamw> now i expect twice as much work
17:09:02 <adamw> #info starting with the proposed Server blocker
17:09:08 <sgallagh> adamw: So... you're lowering your expectations for me then?
17:09:21 <sgallagh> moving along...
17:09:23 <adamw> well, that depends if we're talking quality or quantity...
17:09:23 <adamw> #topic (1517010) Domain controller role deployment fails due to FreeIPA package dependency issues in current Modular Server
17:09:23 <adamw> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1517010
17:09:23 <adamw> #info Proposed Blocker, fedora-modular-release, ASSIGNED
17:09:45 <adamw> let's see if this is still the case in today's compose
17:09:47 <sgallagh> This is both obviously a blocker and should be fixed within the next hour. +1
17:09:57 <sgallagh> adamw: It is, but I've got the fix in-flight as we speak
17:10:04 <adamw> aha, ok.
17:10:07 <sgallagh> It will be in the nightly compose tonight
17:10:16 <adamw> so, that's good. clearly a blocker on the merits. +1
17:10:24 <sgallagh> will be *fixed* in the nightly compose tonight
17:11:04 <adamw> we hope :P
17:11:40 <sgallagh> adamw: Will you settle for "if it's broken, it will be for a different reason"? :)
17:11:52 <adamw> so, briefly i'd just like to mention that dnf bug i noticed on friday: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1516990
17:12:02 <adamw> i didn't propose it as a blocker yet, but if it's something that keeps getting worse, it may be
17:12:08 <pschindl> +1
17:12:16 <adamw> so worth keeping an eye on
17:12:37 <adamw> #info 1516990 may be something we need to keep an eye on going forward (an early stage of dnf setup taking a long time on modular images/installs)
17:12:41 <sumantro_> +1
17:12:53 <adamw> ok, so that's +4
17:13:06 <sgallagh> adamw: Yeah, there's definitely an optimization missing somewhere.
17:13:41 <sgallagh> I suspect it's not optimized for the "many repos" case that modularity is using under the hood.
17:13:49 <adamw> proposed #agreed 1517010 - AcceptedBlocker (F27ServerFinal) - this is a clear violation of Basic criterion "Release-blocking roles and the supported role configuration interfaces must meet the core functional Role Definition Requirements to the extent that supported roles can be successfully deployed..." - domain controller is a release-blocking role
17:13:56 <adamw> sgallagh: sounds likely.
17:14:12 <sgallagh> And every time we add a new module, that time probably goes up
17:14:21 <sgallagh> I'll discuss it with my team
17:14:22 <pschindl> ack
17:14:29 <sgallagh> ack
17:14:35 <sumantro_> ack
17:14:53 <adamw> #agreed 1517010 - AcceptedBlocker (F27ServerFinal) - this is a clear violation of Basic criterion "Release-blocking roles and the supported role configuration interfaces must meet the core functional Role Definition Requirements to the extent that supported roles can be successfully deployed..." - domain controller is a release-blocking role
17:16:59 <adamw> OK, that's all the Server proposals ATM
17:17:03 <adamw> #info moving onto Fedora 28 Beta
17:18:06 <adamw> hm, just a sec. let me see why the first two bugs have identical topics and see if i need to do some cleanup first
17:18:59 <adamw> hum. one of the anaconda guys duped this, but i'm not 100% sure why. oh well, let's work through it.
17:19:07 <adamw> #topic (1500992) All non-live install attempts using automatic partitioning fail on lower memory systems due to problem with swap partition handling
17:19:07 <adamw> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1500992
17:19:07 <adamw> #info Proposed Blocker, lorax, MODIFIED
17:19:33 <adamw> so i think this one is fixed
17:20:02 <adamw> yeah, last rawhide compose passed 87 tests, far more than it did when this was around
17:20:09 <adamw> so i'm gonna say let's close this and move on
17:20:13 <adamw> any objections?
17:21:47 <adamw> okay
17:21:53 <adamw> #info this is clearly fixed now, we will close the bug
17:22:00 <adamw> #topic (1501249) All non-live install attempts using automatic partitioning fail on lower memory systems due to problem with swap partition handling
17:22:00 <adamw> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1501249
17:22:00 <adamw> #info Proposed Blocker, python-blivet, ASSIGNED
17:22:10 <adamw> this is a dupe of the previous one, which i'm not entirely sure why it was made
17:22:16 <adamw> proposal: punt on it and i'll ask
17:22:28 <sumantro_> punt
17:23:55 <sgallagh> +1 punt
17:23:59 <sumantro_> +1
17:24:45 <adamw> proposed #agreed 1501249 - punt (delay decision) - we're not sure why a dupe of the previous bug was created, we'll check with the person who duped it before closing this
17:24:55 <pschindl> ack
17:25:00 <sumantro_> ack
17:26:17 <adamw> one more ack?
17:26:26 <adamw> any old acks, any old acks, any any any old acks...
17:26:31 <siddharthvipul> ack
17:26:32 <sgallagh> ack
17:26:44 <adamw> #agreed 1501249 - punt (delay decision) - we're not sure why a dupe of the previous bug was created, we'll check with the person who duped it before closing this
17:26:56 <adamw> #topic (1508662) dac_override denials prevent start of 389-ds (FreeIPA)
17:26:56 <adamw> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1508662
17:26:57 <adamw> #info Proposed Blocker, selinux-policy, POST
17:27:54 <sgallagh> +1 blocker, it interferes with FreeIPA
17:28:14 <sgallagh> And now I need to run to another meeting
17:28:20 <sumantro_> +1
17:28:55 <adamw> hum, well, freeipa deployment is still failing on current rawhide, but it doesn't look like this is the cause any more. i'd best look into that
17:28:56 <adamw> thanks sgallagh
17:30:04 <pschindl> +1
17:32:12 <adamw> proposed #agreed 1508662 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this is a clear violation of "Release-blocking roles and the supported role configuration interfaces must meet the core functional Role Definition Requirements to the extent that supported roles can be successfully deployed..."
17:32:20 <adamw> may as well accept it, if it turns out to be fixed, no harm done
17:34:49 <adamw> any acks?
17:34:59 <adamw> after acks we can all go home!
17:35:19 <sumantro_> ack
17:35:28 <pschindl> ack
17:35:31 <siddharthvipul> ack
17:35:42 <adamw> #agreed 1508662 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this is a clear violation of "Release-blocking roles and the supported role configuration interfaces must meet the core functional Role Definition Requirements to the extent that supported roles can be successfully deployed..."
17:35:52 <adamw> alright alright alright
17:35:58 <kparal> ack!
17:36:00 <adamw> #info that's all the proposed blockers we have
17:36:03 <adamw> #topic Open floor
17:36:09 <adamw> any other 27 Server / 28 business?
17:38:18 <adamw> in that case, i guess we're done here
17:38:22 <adamw> thanks for coming, everyone!
17:38:25 * adamw sets fuse
17:39:02 <sumantro_> adamw thanks for hosting :)
17:42:13 <adamw> thanks again
17:42:14 <adamw> #endmeeting