17:01:09 <adamw> #startmeeting F28-blocker-review 17:01:09 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Jan 8 17:01:09 2018 UTC. The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:01:09 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:01:09 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'f28-blocker-review' 17:01:09 <adamw> #meetingname F28-blocker-review 17:01:10 <adamw> #topic Roll Call 17:01:10 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'f28-blocker-review' 17:01:19 <adamw> morning folks! who's around for blocker review fun times? 17:04:34 * pwhalen is here 17:04:36 * adamw kicks feet, watches dust balls roll by 17:04:38 <adamw> hi pwhalen! 17:06:26 <adamw> hi tenk, kohane 17:06:39 <Kohane> Hi adamw tenk 17:06:43 <tenk> hi adamw 17:06:45 * Kohane waves 17:07:08 <tenk> i am in France, so in a good timezone for the meeting :) 17:07:24 <tenk> comeback to japan tomorrow 17:07:50 * pschindl_wfh is here 17:08:08 <adamw> hi pschindl 17:08:19 <adamw> sgallagh: tflink: pingles? 17:08:24 <adamw> mboddu: pingity? 17:08:26 <pschindl_wfh> Hi Adam. Hi all. 17:08:48 <adamw> nirik: kparal: pingaroonie? 17:08:52 <Kohane> tenk: how do you find France? 17:09:06 <adamw> Kohane: i find it's easiest to find Germany and then head west 17:09:11 <adamw> ba-dum *tish* 17:09:22 <tenk> Kohane: it's my home country so good :) 17:10:15 <adamw> you know, cos, france is west of germany...and find can mean...you know what, never mind 17:10:18 <adamw> *pouts* 17:10:36 <Kohane> adamw: LOL for me that's sure, I'm in Stuttgart 17:10:47 <adamw> aha, suse-land 17:10:52 * adamw checks if kohane is a spy 17:10:57 <adamw> :P 17:10:59 <Kohane> LOL 17:11:11 <adamw> #chair pwhalen kohane 17:11:11 <zodbot> Current chairs: adamw kohane pwhalen 17:11:23 <Kohane> Funnily enough, I found more Fedora than Suse users. 17:11:28 <adamw> huh, interesting 17:11:42 <adamw> ok so, we're a bit low on numbers, but let's get started and see how we do... 17:11:43 <adamw> #topic Introduction 17:11:44 <adamw> Why are we here? 17:11:44 <adamw> #info Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. 17:11:44 <adamw> #info We'll be following the process outlined at: 17:11:45 <adamw> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting 17:11:47 <adamw> #info The bugs up for review today are available at: 17:11:48 <adamw> #link http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current 17:11:50 <adamw> #info The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: 17:11:54 <adamw> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria 17:11:56 <adamw> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_28_Beta_Release_Criteria 17:11:58 <adamw> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_28_Final_Release_Criteria 17:14:01 <adamw> we have: 17:14:11 <adamw> #info 6 Proposed Blockers (Beta) 17:14:25 <Kohane> I was looking at them, yeah... 17:14:35 <adamw> does anyone want to volunteer as secretary? 17:14:55 <pschindl_wfh> I'll do it 17:16:15 <adamw> thanks pschindl 17:16:21 <adamw> #info pschindl_wfh will secretarialize 17:16:35 <adamw> alrighty, let's get to the proposed Beta blockers, then 17:16:41 <adamw> #topic (1323012) AttributeError: '_ped.Partition' object has no attribute 'setName' 17:16:42 <adamw> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1323012 17:16:42 <adamw> #info Proposed Blocker, anaconda, POST 17:16:55 <adamw> this one may be fixed already, let me check 17:17:30 <Kohane> Give me second to read, please, because I don't get it by the description 17:18:15 <adamw> yeah, this is fixed. 17:18:24 <adamw> Kohane: it was a crasher during all UEFI installs. 17:18:41 <Kohane> Ah. 17:18:45 <Kohane> Okay. 17:18:49 <adamw> #info this is fixed in current Rawhide, bug can be closed. 17:19:01 <adamw> so, we don't need to do anything for that one. moving on 17:19:46 <adamw> #topic (1526861) unable to do an installation when a boot option is added 17:19:47 <adamw> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1526861 17:19:47 <adamw> #info Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED 17:20:17 <adamw> erf, this one. so, this one is 'fixed', but i think the fix was wrong. 17:20:26 <Kohane> How so? 17:20:28 <adamw> so far as this bug is concerned at least, though, it's gone. 17:20:36 <adamw> Kohane: bit of a long story - see https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/commit/ab29bdff2e041ec4f354c3334d8aa15ea8366a17#commitcomment-26397639 17:20:47 <Kohane> Oh. Okay. Thanks. 17:22:07 <Kohane> So. Is this fixed...? 17:22:29 <adamw> yeah... 17:22:48 <adamw> probably the best thing is to close this, and i'll try to figure out precisely what's broken by the removal of the escape code and file a new bug for that 17:23:00 <pwhalen> sounds good 17:23:17 <adamw> #info this bug is fixed in current Rawhide: adamw has some issues with other consequences of the chosen fix, but the actual bug reported here is definitely gone, so this can also be closed 17:23:17 <Kohane> Yeah, sounds good. 17:23:29 <adamw> #topic (1530428) AttributeError: 'FC3_Cdrom' object has no attribute 'url' 17:23:29 <adamw> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1530428 17:23:29 <adamw> #info Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW 17:24:33 <Kohane> This is one that I don't understand. 17:25:19 <adamw> i think lnie is saying that there's a crash when selecting an http install source with the Server DVD iso, but not with the Server netinst iso 17:25:42 <Kohane> Ah. 17:26:06 <adamw> however, the same test in openQA passed: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/184723# 17:26:24 <adamw> so...we need to look into this one a bit further, i guess 17:26:55 <pwhalen> I havent tested the isos yet, will do so shortly. +1 as its written or punt til we reproduce? 17:27:22 <Kohane> punt 17:27:30 <Kohane> My humble opinion 17:27:43 <pwhalen> wfm 17:27:46 <adamw> i'd say punt till we're sure about the reproducer, yah 17:28:02 <pwhalen> will leave a note if I reproduce today 17:28:47 <tenk> +1 punt 17:29:29 <pschindl_wfh> +1 punt 17:29:53 <Kohane> +1 punt 17:30:18 <adamw> proposed #agreed 1530428 - punt (delay decision) - this sounds bad, but openQA has a test covering similar ground that is passing. we need clearer details on the scenario and an independent reproduction before accepting this as a blocker 17:30:36 <pschindl_wfh> ack 17:30:41 <Kohane> ack 17:31:05 <pwhalen> ack 17:31:15 <adamw> #agreed 1530428 - punt (delay decision) - this sounds bad, but openQA has a test covering similar ground that is passing. we need clearer details on the scenario and an independent reproduction before accepting this as a blocker 17:31:16 <tenk> ack 17:31:31 <Kohane> ack 17:32:19 <adamw> you don't have to ack the actual agreed, that's okay :P 17:32:31 <adamw> #topic (1528103) Crash when creating a container (VG, RAID set etc.): TypeError: suggest_container_name() got an unexpected keyword argument 'hostname' 17:32:31 <adamw> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1528103 17:32:31 <adamw> #info Proposed Blocker, blivet-gui, MODIFIED 17:32:36 <adamw> this is another one that might be fixed, let me see 17:32:52 <adamw> sorry, i should've gone through and closed the fixed ones before the meeting, but i'm trying not to work on weekends lately 17:33:17 <Kohane> Okay, no worries. 17:33:58 <adamw> yup, install_blivet_btrfs is passing on openqa, so this is fixed. 17:34:08 <adamw> #info this is another one that is fixed with latest Rawhide packages, can be closed, no vote needed. 17:34:16 <adamw> #topic (1531398) F28 keys missing from F26 17:34:17 <adamw> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1531398 17:34:17 <adamw> #info Proposed Blocker, fedora-repos, ON_QA 17:34:38 <Kohane> Good. Another fixed bug. 17:35:56 <adamw> so, this one affects upgrades from F26 to Rawhide (and will affect upgrades to F28 when it branches, if not fixed by then) 17:36:08 <Kohane> Yes. 17:36:19 <adamw> obviously to check the package signatures when upgrading from release X to release Y, release X needs to have the public key for release Y 17:36:28 <adamw> but F26 did not have the F28 public key. 17:36:35 <Kohane> Why? 17:36:38 <adamw> just an oversight 17:36:52 <Kohane> I mean, why is missing in 26 but not in 27? 17:36:56 <adamw> oh, just timing 17:37:15 <adamw> the F28 key was created after F26 was already released 17:37:22 <adamw> so we have to do a post-release update to add it to F26 17:37:28 <Kohane> Ah. Okay. 17:37:36 <Kohane> So it's easy to fix? 17:38:11 <adamw> oh yeah. it's ON_QA already, which means the fix has been sent to testing 17:38:24 <adamw> i'll have to check it out later 17:38:27 <adamw> but for now... 17:38:30 <pwhalen> same 17:38:35 <pwhalen> +1 17:38:43 <Kohane> Oh, nice. 17:39:10 <adamw> proposed #agreed 1531398 - AcceptedPreviousRelease - this is accepted as a 'previous release' blocker, meaning it needs fixing in F26 before F28 can go out, as a violation of Beta criterion "For each one of the release-blocking package sets, it must be possible to successfully complete a direct upgrade from fully updated installations of the last two stable Fedora releases with that package set installed" 17:39:17 <tenk> ack 17:39:37 <Kohane> ack 17:39:38 <pwhalen> ack 17:39:39 <pschindl_wfh> ack 17:39:41 <sumantro> ack 17:39:46 <adamw> #agreed 1531398 - AcceptedPreviousRelease - this is accepted as a 'previous release' blocker, meaning it needs fixing in F26 before F28 can go out, as a violation of Beta criterion "For each one of the release-blocking package sets, it must be possible to successfully complete a direct upgrade from fully updated installations of the last two stable Fedora releases with that package set installed" 17:39:49 <adamw> hi again sumantro 17:40:12 <adamw> #topic (1527684) Flood of 'read' denials for systemd-journald with selinux-policy-3.13.1-306.fc28 17:40:12 <sumantro> hi adamw , bit under the weather :P took med and came back 17:40:12 <adamw> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1527684 17:40:12 <adamw> #info Proposed Blocker, selinux-policy-targeted, ASSIGNED 17:40:21 <adamw> sumantro: oof :( go get some rest when we're done here! 17:40:23 <adamw> this is the last one 17:40:41 <adamw> sumantro: it's always better to rest up when you're sick than push yourself to work 17:40:52 <pwhalen> +1 17:41:09 <sumantro> thats okay , 1 is still left :P will pull through :D 17:41:23 <adamw> so, lukas thought he'd fixed this, but i'm pretty sure it's still happening 17:41:38 <adamw> openQA is set to check for AVCs after most installs, and it still sees these denials on just about all installs 17:41:48 <pwhalen> adamw, testing yesterdays compose it's still there 17:41:54 <adamw> pwhalen: cool, glad to have confirmation 17:42:02 <adamw> pwhalen: can you add a note to the bug so lukas knows it's not just me and my bots? :) 17:42:08 <pwhalen> sure 17:42:10 <adamw> thanks 17:43:27 <adamw> so, on the basis that this messes with logging, i'm +1 as a violation of ""A system logging infrastructure must be available, enabled by default, and working" 17:43:46 <Kohane> Yes, me too. 17:43:47 <sumantro> +1 17:43:47 <Kohane> +1 17:44:17 <adamw> (it's not actually a violation of the criterion about 'no SELinux alerts', because GNOME doesn't actually notify about this, i guess because it isn't part of the user session) 17:44:24 <pschindl_wfh> +1 17:44:33 <pwhalen> adamw, xfce does 17:44:40 <adamw> pwhalen: aha, so it violates that too, for arm 17:44:48 <pwhalen> yea 17:45:02 <tenk> +& 17:45:04 <tenk> +1 17:45:06 <Kohane> adamw: What do you mean? I always get SELinux alerts when I install first time. 17:45:24 <adamw> Kohane: huh, you do? the openQA test doesn't get any. interesting 17:45:31 <adamw> Kohane: is it these denials that you are notified about? 17:46:02 <sfix> elinks http://google.com/ 17:46:19 * mboddu just came back from lunch 17:46:21 <adamw> sfix: wrong window, but i can send you some javascript that'll spy on you if you like :P 17:46:45 <sumantro> adamw, lol :P 17:46:45 <pwhalen> heh 17:47:05 <mboddu> haha :D 17:47:06 <Kohane> Sometimes. I always get SELinux notifications when I make a fresh install. And the last time I kept getting them for over a month. 17:47:17 <Kohane> Which is both annoying and surprising, heh 17:47:28 <adamw> proposed #agreed 1527684 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this is accepted as a violation of Basic criterion "A system logging infrastructure must be available, enabled by default, and working" - also violates Final criterion "There must be no SELinux denial notifications or crash notifications on boot of or during installation from a release-blocking live image, or at first login after a default install of a release-blocking desktop" for Xfce/ARM 17:47:29 <adamw> and possibly GNOME/x86_64 17:47:33 <adamw> grr, i'll trim that a bit. 17:48:05 <pwhalen> ack 17:48:06 <adamw> proposed #agreed 1527684 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this is accepted as a violation of Basic criterion "A system logging infrastructure must be available, enabled by default, and working" - also Final criterion "There must be no SELinux denial notifications...on boot of or during installation from a release-blocking live image, or at first login after a default install of a release-blocking desktop" for Xfce, possibly GNOME 17:48:11 <sumantro> ack 17:48:13 <pwhalen> ack 17:48:14 <tenk> ack 17:48:16 <Kohane> ack 17:48:19 <pschindl_wfh> ack 17:48:21 <adamw> #agreed 1527684 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this is accepted as a violation of Basic criterion "A system logging infrastructure must be available, enabled by default, and working" - also Final criterion "There must be no SELinux denial notifications...on boot of or during installation from a release-blocking live image, or at first login after a default install of a release-blocking desktop" for Xfce, possibly GNOME 17:48:37 <adamw> alrighty, that's all the proposed blockers 17:48:43 <Kohane> Good. 17:48:49 <adamw> i don't think there's any value to going through accepted blockers this early 17:48:53 <adamw> so... 17:48:54 <adamw> #topic Open floor 17:48:57 <adamw> any other business, folks? 17:49:07 <Kohane> I can't remember any. 17:49:27 <sumantro> nothing from my end 17:49:30 <pwhalen> adamw, heads up we have the firefox FTBFS issue again on armv7. I've not yet nominated it, but xfce currently has no browser 17:49:56 <adamw> pwhalen: zoiks, thanks for the heads-up - that'll definitely need fixing 17:49:59 <pwhalen> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1523912 17:50:12 <adamw> #info Firefox is FTBFS on ARM again, pwhalen is on it: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1523912 17:50:14 <pwhalen> I moved it to rust last week, hopefully get some additional eyes 17:50:42 <sumantro> pwhalen thanks for bringing this up! 17:51:13 * adamw cc's self 17:51:58 <adamw> thanks for coming and voting, everyone! 17:52:03 <adamw> i guess we're done here 17:52:12 <pwhalen> thanks folks! 17:52:17 <tenk> thx all 17:52:29 <Kohane> Thanks adamw ! 17:52:34 <adamw> #endmeeting