#fedora-blocker-review: F29-blocker-review

Meeting started by adamw at 16:01:12 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. Roll Call (adamw, 16:01:12)
  2. Introduction (adamw, 16:06:22)
    1. Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (adamw, 16:06:22)
    2. We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:06:22)
    3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (adamw, 16:06:22)
    4. The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:06:24)
    5. http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw, 16:06:26)
    6. The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw, 16:06:28)
    7. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:06:30)
    8. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_29_Beta_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:06:32)
    9. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_29_Final_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:06:34)
    10. 9 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:06:41)
    11. 6 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:06:42)
    12. 24 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:06:46)
    13. 3 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:06:48)
    14. coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:07:14)
    15. starting with the proposed blockers (adamw, 16:07:26)

  3. (1596540) RuntimeError: C++ std::exception: Exec failed: no such table: main.trans_cmdline (adamw, 16:07:33)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1596540 (adamw, 16:07:33)
    2. Proposed Blocker, dnf, ASSIGNED (adamw, 16:07:33)
    3. AGREED: 1596540 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - accepted as a blocker as a violation of "The installed system must be able appropriately to install, remove, and update software with the default console tool for the relevant software type (e.g. default console package manager). This includes downloading of packages to be installed/updated." (adamw, 16:22:10)

  4. (1625259) RuntimeError: TransactionItem not found for key (adamw, 16:22:16)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1625259 (adamw, 16:22:16)
    2. Proposed Blocker, dnf, NEW (adamw, 16:22:16)
    3. AGREED: 1625259 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) - while DNF tracebacks are always bad, this doesn't seem to cause permanent problems and the functionality that fails is not in the criteria (and not hugely important). we are open to considering FE status once the bug and fix are more clearly understood (adamw, 16:41:10)

  5. (1623868) default libvirt/container networking (NAT based AFIACT) broken in F-29 (adamw, 16:41:30)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1623868 (adamw, 16:41:30)
    2. Proposed Blocker, firewalld, ON_QA (adamw, 16:41:30)
    3. AGREED: 1623868 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - accepted as a violation of "The release must be able host virtual guest instances of the same release" and its footnote (adamw, 16:44:52)

  6. (1624534) Transition from g-i-s to desktop fails in current Rawhide and F29 (adamw, 16:45:01)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1624534 (adamw, 16:45:01)
    2. Proposed Blocker, gdm, NEW (adamw, 16:45:01)
    3. AGREED: 1624534 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - accepted as a violation of "A system installed with a release-blocking desktop must boot to a log in screen where it is possible to log in to a working desktop using a user account created during installation or a 'first boot' utility." (adamw, 16:50:15)

  7. (1625269) The Region and Languages section displays in a very small window and therefore is difficult to use. (adamw, 16:50:29)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1625269 (adamw, 16:50:29)
    2. Proposed Blocker, gnome-control-center, NEW (adamw, 16:50:29)
    3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_29_Final_Release_Criteria#Default_application_functionality (adamw, 16:52:13)
    4. AGREED: 1625269 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - accepted as a Final (not Beta) blocker, violation of "All applications that can be launched using the standard graphical mechanism of a release-blocking desktop after a default installation of that desktop must start successfully and withstand a basic functionality test." also accepted as Beta FE as a major bug in GNOME that should be fixed in the live images (adamw, 17:00:35)

  8. (1625253) gnome-shell on wayland might crash when moving bookmark in nautilus (adamw, 17:00:51)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1625253 (adamw, 17:00:51)
    2. Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 17:00:51)
    3. AGREED: 1625253 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - accepted as a Final (not Beta) blocker, violation of "All applications that can be launched using the standard graphical mechanism of a release-blocking desktop after a default installation of that desktop must start successfully and withstand a basic functionality test." also accepted as Beta FE as a major bug in GNOME that should be fixed in the live images (adamw, 17:14:51)

  9. (1619389) mod_ssl does not work with TLS 1.3-enabled openssl (adamw, 17:16:30)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1619389 (adamw, 17:16:30)
    2. Proposed Blocker, httpd, ON_QA (adamw, 17:16:30)
    3. AGREED: 1619389 - punt (delay decision) - it's still not clear if there's a criteria violation here, and it's already accepted as an FE issue. we will try to clarify if there's a criteria violation here in time for next week (adamw, 17:27:29)

  10. (1616269) [abrt] xorg-x11-server-Xwayland: OsLookupColor(): Display server crashed (adamw, 17:27:35)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1616269 (adamw, 17:27:36)
    2. Proposed Blocker, xorg-x11-server, NEW (adamw, 17:27:36)
    3. AGREED: 1616269 - punt (delay decision) on blocker status, AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - we're still worried about this bug, but still don't know how widespread the impact may be. We accept it as a Beta FE issue, and will send out a call for testing before voting on blocker status (adamw, 17:48:54)

  11. (1620584) XWayland crashes on start up and causes the terminal to be unresponsive. (adamw, 17:49:02)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1620584 (adamw, 17:49:02)
    2. Proposed Blocker, xorg-x11-server, NEW (adamw, 17:49:02)
    3. AGREED: 1620584 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) - crashes like this are obviously bad, but so far it does not seem to affect anyone else, and lruzicka could not reproduce it on the initially affected system during the meeting. we will reconsider if more information emerges (adamw, 18:03:10)
    4. moving onto proposed FEs, with some on-the-fly prioritization (adamw, 18:04:11)

  12. (1622545) Extremely slow launching of apps on F29 (adamw, 18:04:18)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1622545 (adamw, 18:04:18)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, at-spi2-core, ON_QA (adamw, 18:04:18)
    3. AGREED: 1622545 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is obviously undesirable for the Workstation live and could not be fixed with an update for that case (adamw, 18:09:40)

  13. (1598523) Make BootLoaderSpec-style configuration files the default (adamw, 18:09:50)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1598523 (adamw, 18:09:50)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, Changes Tracking, ON_QA (adamw, 18:09:50)
    3. https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/pull/1545 , i think (adamw, 18:14:07)
    4. AGREED: 1598523 - RejectedFreezeException (Beta) - this is a major functional change (and Change) which should have landed much earlier, it is not appropriate and potentially highly destabilizing for it to go in as a freeze exception now. (adamw, 18:23:37)

  14. (1624838) package python3-behave-1.2.6-1.fc29.noarch conflicts with python2-behave < 1.2.6 provided by python2-behave-1.2.5-23.fc28.noarch (adamw, 18:24:12)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1624838 (adamw, 18:24:12)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, fedora-obsolete-packages, ON_QA (adamw, 18:24:12)
    3. AGREED: 1624838 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this prevents upgrades without --allowerasing which can be destructive; it merits an FE to allow upgrades with this package and without updates-testing or --allowerasing to proceed (adamw, 18:31:03)

  15. (1623471) Spurious connection errors: "Server did not return a valid TLS certificate" (adamw, 18:31:22)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1623471 (adamw, 18:31:23)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gnutls, ON_QA (adamw, 18:31:23)
    3. AGREED: 1623471 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this breaks major functionality of Evolution and other apps which are included in the Workstation live, thus cannot be fully fixed with an update (adamw, 18:37:52)

  16. (1623132) krita is outdated in F29 and depends on libraw.so.16 (adamw, 18:38:02)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1623132 (adamw, 18:38:02)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, krita, VERIFIED (adamw, 18:38:02)
    3. AGREED: 1623132 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this results in packages being silently left off the KDE live images, which obviously we want to fix (adamw, 18:40:53)

  17. (1625053) Icons missing for LXQt application menu (adamw, 18:40:54)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1625053 (adamw, 18:40:54)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, lxqt-panel, MODIFIED (adamw, 18:40:54)
    3. AGREED: 1625053 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this issue affects one of our live images and cannot be resolved with an update, fix is clearly limited to lxqt only, cannot break anything else (adamw, 18:44:38)

  18. (1624739) Upgrade from F28 fails due to different names of subpackage (adamw, 18:44:48)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1624739 (adamw, 18:44:48)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, lxqt-themes, ON_QA (adamw, 18:44:48)
    3. AGREED: 1624739 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this prevents upgrades without --allowerasing which can be destructive; it merits an FE to allow upgrades with this package and without updates-testing or --allowerasing to proceed (adamw, 18:51:23)

  19. (1575328) Xorg crashes after latest mesa update (adamw, 18:51:26)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1575328 (adamw, 18:51:26)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, mesa, ON_QA (adamw, 18:51:26)
    3. AGREED: 1575328 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this fixes failure of X to start on some hardware, which is important and cannot be fixed with an update. We do note this fix involves significant change to critical components and should be carefully tested (adamw, 18:55:54)

  20. (1624353) Xfce: Sorry, your Window Manager does not support compositing (adamw, 18:56:06)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1624353 (adamw, 18:56:06)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, xfwm4, MODIFIED (adamw, 18:56:06)
    3. AGREED: 1624353 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this bug affects live and ARM disk image media and thus cannot be fixed fully with an update. The change here seems well planned and in accordance with upstream's intentions, and can be reverted if it turns out to cause problems (adamw, 19:02:33)

  21. Open floor (adamw, 19:04:21)
    1. there are many remaining proposed FEs, but we are at time; many seem to be FTBFS bugs, and there's no obvious reason to grant Beta FE purely because a package is FTBFS (adamw, 19:04:47)


Meeting ended at 19:09:50 UTC (full logs).

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