17:01:23 #startmeeting F32-blocker-review 17:01:23 Meeting started Mon Feb 10 17:01:23 2020 UTC. 17:01:23 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 17:01:23 The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:01:23 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:01:23 The meeting name has been set to 'f32-blocker-review' 17:01:23 #meetingname F32-blocker-review 17:01:23 #topic Roll Call 17:01:23 The meeting name has been set to 'f32-blocker-review' 17:01:24 evening 17:01:33 who's around for blocker review funtimes? 17:01:37 * kparal is definitely not here 17:01:43 .hello2 17:01:44 lruzicka: lruzicka 'Lukáš Růžička' 17:01:53 * pwhalen is here 17:01:56 .hello2 17:01:56 frantisekz: frantisekz 'František Zatloukal' 17:02:02 But let's hurry, Yennefer is waiting with the unicorn. 17:02:09 -_- ... 17:02:48 also, a wind storm is coming the Brno way .... 17:04:14 i hear kparal volunteering to run the meeting! 17:04:34 yeah... I hear that too... :P :D 17:05:41 I nominate lruzicka to run it and frantisekz to update bugzillas 17:05:45 there is an announcement here in the office, too 17:06:16 my english is poor, so I cannot come up with those descriptions - as Adam can. 17:06:56 no problem kparal :) 17:07:52 .hello2 17:07:53 bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' 17:08:27 Well, I cannot find the lines to copy, kparal, thought I could access it via the blockerbug app 17:08:55 it's fine, i'm doin' it 17:08:57 alrighty 17:09:05 #chair bcotton frantisekz 17:09:05 Current chairs: adamw bcotton frantisekz 17:09:11 lruzicka: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/32/beta/irc 17:09:11 IMPENDING BOILERPLATE ALERT 17:09:17 #topic Introduction 17:09:17 Why are we here? 17:09:17 #info Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. 17:09:18 #info We'll be following the process outlined at: 17:09:20 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting 17:09:21 #info The bugs up for review today are available at: 17:09:23 #link http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current 17:09:25 #info The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: 17:09:27 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria 17:09:29 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_32_Beta_Release_Criteria 17:09:31 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_32_Final_Release_Criteria 17:10:10 kparal, I saw this, but I thought there were some bot commands to make it. 17:10:35 lruzicka: it's auto-refreshed every half an hour 17:10:43 lruzicka: for the meeting you just copy and paste from that url 17:10:47 it's all nice and low tech :P 17:11:43 #info for Beta, we have: 17:11:44 #info 1 Proposed Blockers 17:11:44 #info 4 Accepted Blockers 17:11:47 #info 1 Accepted Freeze Exceptions 17:11:51 #info for Final, we have: 17:11:58 #info 3 Proposed Blockers 17:11:58 adamw, well the header you have just copied is not there :D 17:11:58 #info 1 Accepted Blockers 17:12:02 #info 1 Proposed Freeze Exceptions 17:12:07 lruzicka: oh, that's on the SOP page 17:12:10 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting 17:12:27 who wants to secretarialize? 17:12:38 I can handle that adamw 17:13:03 adamw, thanks found it 17:13:40 #info frantisekz will secretarialize 17:13:57 #topic proposed Beta blockers 17:14:02 #topic (1798792) blivet.errors.DeviceTreeError: failed to add slave root00p2 of device root00 17:14:02 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1798792 17:14:02 #info Proposed Blocker, python-blivet, NEW 17:15:39 the proposed criterion is not likely violated, but some other is 17:15:58 installer's not supposed to crash? 17:16:31 so, this is booting the installer with an existing virt SCSI or virt IDE (but not virtIO) software RAID set? 17:16:32 oh, this is still a crash in the installer? ok 17:16:45 but lili says it happens after reboot 17:17:14 kparal: "2 boot the newly installed machine with the installer,the crash will happens on the welcome page" 17:17:16 reboot the installer 17:17:27 +1 17:17:29 which probably is - restart anaconda 17:17:29 I see, you reboot into the installer for the second time 17:17:36 (and there's no reason booting an installed system would crash in blivet, we don't run blivet there) 17:17:48 i can't tell because there are no reproduce steps or description of the environment 17:17:51 so, i'd say this violates "When using both the installer-native and the blivet-gui-based custom partitioning flow, the installer must be able to: 17:17:51 Correctly interpret, and modify as described below, any disk with a valid ms-dos or gpt disk label and partition table containing ext4 partitions, LVM and/or btrfs volumes, and/or software RAID arrays at RAID levels 0, 1 and 5 containing ext4 partitions" 17:17:59 cmurf: it's in comment #14. 17:18:27 OIC 17:18:37 +1 beta blocker 17:19:10 +1 beta blocker 17:19:17 +1 beta blocker 17:19:19 +1 beta blocker 17:19:21 +1 17:19:24 yeah +1 17:20:34 proposed #agreed 1798792 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - accepted as a violation of Beta criterion "...the installer must be able to: Correctly interpret...any disk with a valid ms-dos or gpt disk label and partition table containing...software RAID arrays at RAID levels 0, 1 and 5 containing ext4 partitions" 17:20:46 holy ellipsis, batman 17:21:09 acklipsis 17:21:19 frantisekz: btw, did you file a bug on the whole 'rawhide is utterly borked' thing yet? :P 17:21:22 cos we should probably vote on that 17:21:26 ack 17:21:28 ack 17:21:30 ack 17:21:38 adamw: not yet, I though I'd wait for you 17:21:41 haha 17:21:53 I can do that now though, or do you want to do it? 17:21:54 ack 17:22:12 let us save it for next week 17:22:32 I should've gone for all caps on that, no mere haha is adequate for having nearly spat out my coffee 17:23:38 ack 17:23:39 don't bother expensing a new keyboard, we don't have the money for those sorts of luxuries around here 17:23:45 #agreed 1798792 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - accepted as a violation of Beta criterion "...the installer must be able to: Correctly interpret...any disk with a valid ms-dos or gpt disk label and partition table containing...software RAID arrays at RAID levels 0, 1 and 5 containing ext4 partitions" 17:24:02 frantisekz: yeah, if you could file a quick skeleton bug while i get through the rest of the meeting it'd be good 17:24:23 okay, will do 17:25:11 #topic proposed Final blockers 17:25:21 #topic (1798392) AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_type_string' 17:25:21 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1798392 17:25:21 #info Proposed Blocker, anaconda, POST 17:26:47 looks +1 17:27:03 seems pretty blocky to me 17:27:13 huh, another iscsi bug different from my iscsi bug... 17:27:19 i don't think mine's fixed, so i assume this one happens first 17:27:19 +1 17:27:30 +1 17:27:32 +1 17:27:33 +1 17:27:36 +1 17:27:50 +1 final blocker 17:28:27 proposed #agreed 1798392 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - accepted as a Final blocker as a violation of "The installer must be able to detect (if possible) and install to supported network-attached storage devices" 17:28:44 ack 17:29:15 ack 17:29:35 ack 17:29:39 ack 17:30:17 ack 17:30:36 #agreed 1798392 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - accepted as a Final blocker as a violation of "The installer must be able to detect (if possible) and install to supported network-attached storage devices" 17:30:43 #topic (1798876) unable to add a fcoe disk as there is no nic listed 17:30:43 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1798876 17:30:43 #info Proposed Blocker, anaconda, POST 17:31:14 +1 17:31:49 +1 17:31:58 it's not clear what happens and what should have happened 17:32:14 ah, must read the title again 17:32:24 alright, +1 17:32:27 +1 17:32:34 +1 17:32:37 +1 17:32:45 +1 17:32:45 +1 17:33:28 proposed #agreed 1798876 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - accepted as a Final blocker as a violation of "The installer must be able to detect (if possible) and install to supported network-attached storage devices" 17:33:35 ack 17:33:36 ack 17:33:39 ack 17:33:40 ack 17:33:44 #agreed 1798876 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - accepted as a Final blocker as a violation of "The installer must be able to detect (if possible) and install to supported network-attached storage devices" 17:33:50 #topic (1801087) colord fails to start due to selinux 17:33:51 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1801087 17:33:51 #info Proposed Blocker, colord, NEW 17:34:16 +1 17:34:21 +1 17:34:45 that's not the correct criterion 17:35:01 is this a colord issue or a selinux issue? 17:35:04 but we have some for crashed services 17:35:52 yeah, this one? All system services present after installation with one of the release-blocking package sets must start properly, unless they require hardware which is not present. 17:36:00 yes 17:36:01 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_32_Final_Release_Criteria#System_services 17:36:15 well, if he gets a crash notification, then it *would* violate that criterion too :) 17:36:18 but yeah, that's the obvious one. 17:36:22 lruzicka: there is no notification for selinux issues by default. They removed setroubleshoot from the default install set 17:36:28 bets on this being glib again 17:36:29 +1 with a change in violation to the one lruzicka said 17:36:50 +1 17:36:52 adamw: yeah, unless it's caught by abrt 17:36:59 good catch, "must start properly" 17:37:04 but for selinux you'll receive no notification 17:37:13 +1 17:37:28 +1 17:37:28 +1 17:37:47 so +1 again, just for the case 17:38:30 proposed #agreed 1801087 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - accepted as a violation of "All system services present after installation with one of the release-blocking package sets must start properly, unless they require hardware which is not present" 17:38:50 ack 17:39:01 ack 17:39:05 ack 17:39:08 ack 17:39:09 ack 17:39:46 #agreed 1801087 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - accepted as a violation of "All system services present after installation with one of the release-blocking package sets must start properly, unless they require hardware which is not present" 17:40:00 #topic Proposed Beta blockers redux 17:40:05 #info we have a new ch-ch-ch-challenger! 17:40:11 :D 17:40:33 #topic (1801353) Mounting root from installation media fails since systemd-245 17:40:37 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1801353 17:40:45 #info Proposed Blocker, systemd, NEW 17:40:51 ummmhmmm 17:41:09 disclaimer: I am not 100% sure it's a systemd problem, just wild guess, I didn't have too much time to look into that today 17:41:20 I had to manually install systemd-245 on rawhide, it wouldn't come through on updates 17:41:21 it seems like a reasonable guess to me, though. 17:41:28 and i'm not hitting this 17:41:32 cmurf: it's in the installer 17:41:55 how is it on install media already if it wouldn't come in on an update? i guess that's irrelevant 17:41:58 well, live images too 17:42:03 ok so some kind of assembly problem 17:42:09 could well be, yes 17:42:11 ahhha 17:42:21 so in my case i didn't rebuild the initramfs 17:42:27 so this happened just at the very last compose? 17:42:33 no 17:42:35 or it's just to do with specifically how we boot live/install media 17:42:37 which means systemd-244 in the initramfs and systemd-245 after switchroot 17:42:44 I think since 0207 17:42:55 kparal: from 20200207.n.2 17:43:04 which is the first successful compose since systemd-245 17:43:05 so 3 composes in a row are broken? 17:43:12 yes 17:43:19 ok, +1 17:43:43 oh dear 17:43:59 well, this sounds like a lot of fun for the party 17:44:02 +1 17:44:04 +1 17:44:14 +1 17:44:17 this could actually be like that issue recently which was to do with parsing of our weird ISOs, i guess 17:44:21 but completely guessing so far 17:44:26 +1 , and we have a day to branching and post branch freeze :) 17:44:28 yeah i need to see logs 17:44:52 this is actually an automatic blocker and doesn't really need voting on, but hey. 17:44:57 and actually, before i do that i'm gonna rebuild the initramfs on this VM so it uses systemd-245 in the initramfs 17:45:02 right, image is DOA 17:45:18 proposed #agreed 1801353 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - accepted as a violation of "All release-blocking images must boot in their supported configurations" 17:45:22 ack 17:45:22 ack 17:45:26 ack 17:45:29 ack 17:46:07 where'd this show up? 17:46:20 how do you mean where? 17:46:24 #agreed 1801353 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - accepted as a violation of "All release-blocking images must boot in their supported configurations" 17:47:22 it's not in the blocker tool listing 17:47:24 (yet) 17:47:28 cmurf: frantisekz just filed it 17:47:33 i asked him to earlier in the meeting, remember 17:47:33 gotcha 17:48:13 adamw, oh ... and I thought you were referring to the asynchronous BB process and its application 17:48:18 haha no but what i do or don't remember isn't relevant :D 17:48:50 lruzicka: i meant we could just have marked it as accepted under https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process#Automatic_blockers 17:48:52 but it doesn't really matter 17:49:11 btw, I've just pinged zbyszek about that blocker 17:49:28 so they know sooner than later, since final systemd-245 is expected soon 17:49:35 #info all accepted Beta blockers seem to be at some level of 'being worked on', but we need to resolve the new showstopper before we can be sure about them all 17:50:01 frantisekz: i think he may be aware of it already, i'm on a private mail thread with him and zpytela which references it 17:50:03 but anyhoo 17:50:06 #topic Open floor 17:50:14 any other business? any specific notes on any of the accepted blockers? 17:51:11 nope 17:51:31 probably just thanks for the meeting adamw, will do secretary stuff in a moment 17:51:51 salt is a question for me. it appears to have several vulnerbilities and newer upstream releases 17:52:19 I have nothing to share just now. 17:53:56 Southern_Gentlem: well, there's the unresolved security issue criterion at final 17:54:09 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_32_Final_Release_Criteria#Security_bugs 17:54:20 if you know of a specific unfixed issue that meets that criterion, you could propose it 17:56:00 thanks all 17:56:37 but of course i dont know if salt is in any of the blocking stuff 17:57:07 kparal: KDE spin probably has the sethroubleshoot thing yet, and is blocker too 17:57:13 I'd say salt is essential. But don't each too much of it. 17:57:20 *eat 17:57:35 Southern_Gentlem: it doesn't actually need to be for that criterion 17:57:35 jlanda: does it have colord, though? 17:57:44 Oh, good question 17:58:07 just rhetorical, don't spend time on it :) 17:59:55 na :) 18:02:48 ok, thanks for coming everyone! 18:02:51 #endmeeting