#fedora-blocker-review: F35-blocker-review

Meeting started by adamw at 16:00:55 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. Roll Call (adamw, 16:01:07)
  2. Introduction (adamw, 16:09:19)
    1. Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (adamw, 16:09:29)
    2. We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:09:34)
    3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (adamw, 16:09:38)
    4. The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:09:44)
    5. http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw, 16:09:48)
    6. The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw, 16:09:52)
    7. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:09:56)
    8. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_35_Beta_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:10:00)
    9. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_35_Final_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:10:05)
    10. for Final, we have: (adamw, 16:10:08)
    11. 7 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:10:15)
    12. 12 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:10:20)
    13. 8 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:10:23)
    14. coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:10:35)

  3. Proposed Final blockers (adamw, 16:10:40)
  4. (2009460) It's impossible to take a screenshot on Wayland with GNOME 41 (adamw, 16:10:51)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2009460 (adamw, 16:10:54)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/526 (adamw, 16:11:00)
    3. Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 16:11:04)
    4. Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-3) (+lruzicka, -catanzaro, -kparal, -frantisekz) (adamw, 16:11:07)
    5. AGREED: 2009460 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - multiple testers found no bugs in basic functionality here, screenshot taking generally works as intended via shortcuts and in the app launched from the overview (adamw, 16:20:16)

  5. (2012817) missing Source drop-down in gnome-software -> not allowing to uninstall applications, misleading users (adamw, 16:20:29)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2012817 (adamw, 16:20:33)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/529 (adamw, 16:20:37)
    3. Proposed Blocker, gnome-software, NEW (adamw, 16:20:41)
    4. Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+0,0,-1) (-frantisekz) (adamw, 16:20:44)
    5. https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/1490#note_1287432 (adamw, 16:25:34)
    6. AGREED: 2012817 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - per discussion in the bug reports downstream and upstream the problems here seem to be triggered by specific qualtiies of Homebank's flatpak metadata, thus they're not really broad enough to count as basic functionality failures (and can be fixed outside of Fedora, in the metadata) (adamw, 16:29:47)

  6. (2012863) Gnome Software does not refresh after installation from RPM. (adamw, 16:30:14)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2012863 (adamw, 16:30:15)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/530 (adamw, 16:30:15)
    3. Proposed Blocker, gnome-software, NEW (adamw, 16:30:15)
    4. AGREED: 2012863 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - as no practical consequences of this have been identified, we agreed it's not really significant enough to count as a failure of "basic functionality", and so it does not meet the blocker criteria (adamw, 16:35:18)

  7. (2011928) Fedora 35 aarch64 cloud image based openstack VM hangs (adamw, 16:35:30)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011928 (adamw, 16:35:33)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/525 (adamw, 16:35:36)
    3. Proposed Blocker, kernel, NEW (adamw, 16:35:40)
    4. Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-0) (+bcotton) (adamw, 16:35:43)
    5. AGREED: 2011928 - punt (delay decision) - this is definitely a worrying bug but so far we have only a single reporter and not much detail or feedback from kernel/arm/cloud groups. we will try to get more input on this issue this week and take further action (adamw, 16:54:59)

  8. (2008803) openh264 crashes for all videos (adamw, 16:55:22)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2008803 (adamw, 16:55:26)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/521 (adamw, 16:55:30)
    3. Proposed Blocker, openh264, MODIFIED (adamw, 16:55:38)
    4. Ticket vote: 0Day (+8,0,-0) (+catanzaro, +mohanboddu, +bcotton, +kevin, +lruzicka, +geraldosimiao, +ngompa, +frantisekz) (adamw, 16:55:41)
    5. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process#Normal.2C_0-Day_and_Previous_Release_blockers (adamw, 16:59:36)
    6. AGREED: 2008803 - Accepted0Day - this is accepted as a 0-day blocker by ticket vote of +8 (was not cleared before meeting due to blockerbugs webUI limitation) (adamw, 16:59:37)

  9. (2011774) Toggled repos in Discover jump to the bottom of the list, and other repo names are changed to undefined (adamw, 17:01:37)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011774 (adamw, 17:01:45)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/528 (adamw, 17:01:48)
    3. Proposed Blocker, plasma-discover, NEW (adamw, 17:01:51)
    4. AGREED: 2011774 - RejectedBlocker (Final) AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - we agreed that while this looks bad, the operation does work, so critical functionality is maintained. It's accepted as an FE issue if it can be fixed relatively safely, as it does look pretty bad. (adamw, 17:12:20)

  10. (2011231) HDMI Audio Device is invisible/inactive unless you manually assign it a profile (adamw, 17:12:20)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011231 (adamw, 17:12:21)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/511 (adamw, 17:12:21)
    3. Proposed Blocker, plasma-systemsettings, NEW (adamw, 17:12:23)
    4. Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+4,0,-0) (+bcotton, +mohanboddu, +kevin, +adamwill) (adamw, 17:12:27)
    5. AGREED: 2011231 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - we agreed that this seems too limited in impact (at least to HDMI audio output on KDE, and possibly to the specific device) to be considered a criteria violation. note that it is already accepted as an FE issue. (adamw, 17:26:01)

  11. Accepted Final blockers (adamw, 17:26:43)
    1. will skip ones that are clearly on the way to being resolved (adamw, 17:27:00)
    2. a reminder that we're checking status/progress here, not re-voting unless we specifically decide to (adamw, 17:27:13)

  12. (1991075) time is transiently incorrect when Automatic Time Zone is enabled (adamw, 17:27:18)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1991075 (adamw, 17:27:22)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/389 (adamw, 17:27:25)
    3. Accepted Blocker, geoclue2, MODIFIED (adamw, 17:27:28)
    4. the existing update does not fully resolve this (adamw, 17:28:06)
    5. desktop team are actively working on it and intend further progress today (adamw, 17:28:17)

  13. (1989726) [abrt] gnome-shell: cogl_texture_get_gl_texture(): gnome-shell killed by SIGSEGV (adamw, 17:30:35)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1989726 (adamw, 17:30:40)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/399 (adamw, 17:30:43)
    3. Accepted Blocker, mesa, ASSIGNED (adamw, 17:30:46)
    4. per karol herbst's most recent comments this should be fixable now, we are waiting for him to submit the PRs he planned (adamw, 17:32:22)
    5. ACTION: adamw to check in with karol if PRs do not show up soon (adamw, 17:32:31)

  14. (2011291) Discover shows a misleading state of Flatpak repos, can't delete disabled repos (adamw, 17:33:50)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011291 (adamw, 17:33:54)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/512 (adamw, 17:33:57)
    3. Accepted Blocker, plasma-discover, NEW (adamw, 17:34:00)
    4. this has been reported upstream and had some attention, but doesn't look like any prospect of a fix yet (adamw, 17:41:24)

  15. (2011322) Discover doesn't seem to find any RPM packages, neither locally installed nor in RPM repos (adamw, 17:45:49)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011322 (adamw, 17:45:53)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/515 (adamw, 17:45:55)
    3. Accepted Blocker, plasma-discover, NEW (adamw, 17:46:00)
    4. there isn't any obvious progress on a fix for this, but myself and geraldo found we cannot reproduce the bug with 5.22 or 5.23, we get correct behaviour in all cases identified by kamil. we speculate this behaviour may occur only until some repodata is properly retrieved? we will continue to investigate (adamw, 17:55:40)

  16. (2011333) Toggling repo in Discover doesn't redraw the checkbox, confusing users (adamw, 17:57:43)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011333 (adamw, 17:57:46)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/517 (adamw, 17:57:51)
    3. Accepted Blocker, plasma-discover, NEW (adamw, 17:57:56)
    4. no apparent movement on a fix for this either (adamw, 17:58:56)
    5. ACTION: adamw to poke KDE team about series of unaddressed blockers, try and figure out an action plan (adamw, 18:01:37)

  17. (2001837) The switch for Fedora Third Party repositories does not switch them on. (adamw, 18:02:50)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2001837 (adamw, 18:02:53)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/455 (adamw, 18:02:57)
    3. Accepted Blocker, selinux-policy, ASSIGNED (adamw, 18:03:00)
    4. there seem to be different findings as to whether this is yet fully fixed (adamw, 18:06:08)
    5. we will try to get more testing done to confirm whether this is actually fixed (adamw, 18:06:46)

  18. Open floor (adamw, 18:07:41)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2012948 (Southern_Gentlem, 18:10:02)
    2. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2012950 (Southern_Gentlem, 18:10:29)
    3. AGREED: 2012948 and 2012950 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - accepted as clear violations of "A fedora-release package containing the correct names, information and repository configuration for a final Fedora release must be present on release-blocking images" (adamw, 18:19:36)


Meeting ended at 18:22:10 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. adamw to check in with karol if PRs do not show up soon
  2. adamw to poke KDE team about series of unaddressed blockers, try and figure out an action plan


Action items, by person

  1. adamw
    1. adamw to check in with karol if PRs do not show up soon
    2. adamw to poke KDE team about series of unaddressed blockers, try and figure out an action plan


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  6. Southern_Gentlem (21)
  7. zodbot (11)
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