#fedora-blocker-review: F35-blocker-review

Meeting started by adamw at 16:02:08 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. Roll Call (adamw, 16:02:15)
  2. Introduction (adamw, 16:10:03)
    1. Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (adamw, 16:10:10)
    2. We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:10:13)
    3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (adamw, 16:10:15)
    4. The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:10:18)
    5. http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw, 16:10:22)
    6. The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw, 16:10:25)
    7. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:10:28)
    8. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_35_Beta_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:10:32)
    9. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_35_Final_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:10:35)
    10. for Final, we have: (adamw, 16:10:38)
    11. 4 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:10:49)
    12. 4 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:10:52)
    13. 5 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:10:59)
    14. 11 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:11:01)
    15. coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:11:15)

  3. Proposed Final blockers (adamw, 16:11:22)
  4. (2016613) Anaconda in F35 does not switch keyboard layout correctly (adamw, 16:11:30)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016613 (adamw, 16:11:33)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/566 (adamw, 16:11:37)
    3. Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (adamw, 16:11:40)
    4. Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-0) (+ahmedalmeleh) (adamw, 16:11:46)
    5. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_35_Final_Release_Criteria#Keyboard_layout_configuration doesn't specify, but i'd naiively assume it would only apply to the primary layout (although I see the case for secondary, too) (bcotton, 16:19:05)
    6. AGREED: 2016613 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a violation of the intent of the "If a particular keyboard layout has been configured for the system, that keyboard layout must be used: ..." criterion - "in the installer" is not listed in that criterion, but we agree this is an oversight and it is intended to be covered (we will rectify this later) (adamw, 16:39:14)

  5. (2017043) WS GIS aarch64 doesn't accept input from wireless keyboard (adamw, 16:39:49)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2017043 (adamw, 16:39:53)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/568 (adamw, 16:39:57)
    3. Proposed Blocker, gnome-initial-setup, NEW (adamw, 16:39:59)
    4. AGREED: 2017043 - RejectedBlocker (Final) AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - this is rejected as there doesn't seem to a be blocking scenario (hardware plus input device plus environment) which is affected, but accepted as an FE issue as it cannot be fixed with an update and would be good to fix for the non-blocking RPi4 case if possible (adamw, 16:46:59)

  6. (2011928) Fedora 35 aarch64 cloud image based openstack VM hangs (adamw, 16:47:14)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011928 (adamw, 16:47:17)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/525 (adamw, 16:47:20)
    3. Proposed Blocker, kernel, NEW (adamw, 16:47:24)
    4. Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+2,0,-0) (+bcotton, +ahmedalmeleh) (adamw, 16:47:28)
    5. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1949334 was the f34 bug with the same trace (adamw, 17:00:01)
    6. https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/965 (Eighth_Doctor, 17:00:42)
    7. AGREED: 2011928 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - this is a tough call as we cannot be sure if it specific to vexxhost's environment somehow, and if the problem lies there or in Fedora 35 itself. we agreed on current information to reject this as a blocker and document it as an ongoing situation with vexxhost which we will try to get resolved ASAP. (adamw, 17:16:24)

  7. (2016253) wireplumber not enabled automatically (adamw, 17:16:32)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016253 (adamw, 17:16:35)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/567 (adamw, 17:16:39)
    3. Proposed Blocker, wireplumber, MODIFIED (adamw, 17:16:43)
    4. Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+3,0,-0) (+frantisekz, +catanzaro, +lruzicka) (adamw, 17:16:47)
    5. Ticket vote: 0Day (+3,0,-0) (+kparal, +catanzaro, +bcotton) (adamw, 17:16:51)
    6. https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2021-3c4c454c98#bugs (Eighth_Doctor, 17:20:31)
    7. AGREED: 2016253 - Accepted0Day (Final), AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - this is accepted as a conditional violation of "For each one of the release-blocking package sets, it must be possible to successfully complete a direct upgrade...The upgraded system must meet all release criteria", as we hold it's sufficiently likely this could possibly happen in such a case to be worth blocking on. Also FE to fix it sooner. (adamw, 17:30:44)

  8. Proposed Final freeze exceptions (adamw, 17:36:53)
    1. we'll skip this section, as time is running on and most of them have ticket votes (adamw, 17:37:05)
    2. please vote in the tickets if you want to vote on these, i will update them shortly after the meeting (adamw, 17:37:18)

  9. Accepted Final blockers (adamw, 17:37:27)
    1. 2015972 - this is verified (adamw, 17:38:32)

  10. (2016310) The KDE LiveCD 35 RC does not boot in basic graphics mode. (adamw, 17:39:15)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016310 (adamw, 17:39:19)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/562 (adamw, 17:39:22)
    3. Accepted Blocker, LiveCD - KDE, MODIFIED (adamw, 17:39:25)
    4. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1x70jhY5S18TB6lXPI7QYjDFuWelLm6ov (Southern_Gentlem, 17:44:45)
    5. we're actively working to get a usable fix for this, no specific action is needed to move it along (adamw, 17:49:56)
    6. 2016510 is ON_QA and showing mostly positive results in testing so far, kparal is working on a subcase where steam doesn't always show up (adamw, 17:50:24)
    7. 2011322 is ON_QA because we need to confirm it keeps working over time, but the fix is pushed stable and we think it's good (adamw, 17:50:53)

  11. Open floor (adamw, 17:50:59)
    1. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/447#comment-751676 (adamw, 17:54:38)


Meeting ended at 17:59:28 UTC (full logs).

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