#fedora-blocker-review: F38-blocker-review

Meeting started by bcotton at 16:00:59 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. Roll Call (bcotton, 16:01:21)
  2. Roll Call (adamw, 16:06:02)
  3. Introduction (adamw, 16:07:05)
    1. Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (adamw, 16:07:23)
    2. We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:07:28)
    3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (adamw, 16:07:32)
    4. The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:07:36)
    5. http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw, 16:07:40)
    6. The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw, 16:07:43)
    7. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:07:46)
    8. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_38_Beta_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:07:51)
    9. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_38_Final_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:07:53)
    10. for Final, we have: (adamw, 16:08:00)
    11. 5 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:08:33)
    12. 5 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:08:35)
    13. 2 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:08:36)
    14. 4 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:08:46)
    15. coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:08:57)

  4. Proposed Final blockers (adamw, 16:09:05)
  5. (2177725) Combo boxes in GTK4 can't be opened (adamw, 16:09:58)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2177725 (adamw, 16:09:59)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1091 (adamw, 16:09:59)
    3. Proposed Blocker, gtk4, VERIFIED (adamw, 16:09:59)
    4. Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+2,0,-0) (+bcotton, +geraldosimiao) (adamw, 16:10:01)
    5. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2177725 (frantisekz, 16:12:25)
    6. AGREED: 2177725 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this would affect basic functionality of many GTK4 apps, combo boxes are a standard UI element (adamw, 16:16:53)

  6. (2176766) Dragging files is Nautilus doesn't work as expected, quick movements result in a selection box instead (adamw, 16:17:13)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2176766 (adamw, 16:17:16)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1085 (adamw, 16:17:23)
    3. Proposed Blocker, nautilus, NEW (adamw, 16:17:24)
    4. Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+4,2,-2) (+catanzaro, +nielsenb, +geraldosimiao, +bcotton, kparal, sgallagh, -frantisekz, -lruzicka) (adamw, 16:17:26)
    5. Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+2,0,-0) (+frantisekz, +sgallagh) (adamw, 16:17:28)
    6. AGREED: 2176766 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a violation of the "basic functionality" criterion for nautilus, in the case of impatient people who like to move the mouse real fast (adamw, 16:35:43)

  7. (2113005) Live image made with BOOTX64.EFI from latest shim-x64-15.6-2 fails to boot on some boards (adamw, 16:35:56)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2113005 (adamw, 16:36:00)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1087 (adamw, 16:36:03)
    3. Proposed Blocker, shim, POST (adamw, 16:36:07)
    4. Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+3,0,-3) (+geraldosimiao, +kparal, +bcotton, -frantisekz, -nielsenb, -sgallagh) (adamw, 16:36:09)
    5. Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+4,0,-0) (+frantisekz, +nielsenb, +lruzicka, +sgallagh) (adamw, 16:36:13)
    6. AGREED: 2113005 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a conditional violation of "All release-blocking images must boot in their supported configurations" when booting in native UEFI mode on affected hardware. (adamw, 17:02:23)

  8. (2177784) Sound volume is sometimes 0% after login (a race condition) (adamw, 17:02:39)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2177784 (adamw, 17:02:42)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1092 (adamw, 17:02:44)
    3. Proposed Blocker, wireplumber, NEW (adamw, 17:02:47)
    4. AGREED: 2177784 - RejectedBlocker (Final) AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - this isn't serious enough to be considered a criteria violation. The criterion says "The installed system must be able to play back sound with gstreamer-based applications"; if affected by this bug you can play sound, you just have to turn the volume up first. It is bad polish, though, so we grant an FE (adamw, 17:12:19)

  9. (2177853) Logout/reboot/poweroff timeout leaves the session in a broken state, doesn't perform the action (adamw, 17:14:14)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2177853 (adamw, 17:14:27)
    2. Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 17:14:50)
    3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_38_Beta_Release_Criteria#Shutdown,_reboot,_login,_logout (kparal, 17:16:40)
    4. AGREED: 2177853 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a conditional violation of "Shutting down [etc]...must work using...the mechanisms offered (if any) by all release-blocking desktops" in the case where you wait for the automatic action to happen after the timeout (adamw, 17:22:33)

  10. Proposed Final freeze exception issues (adamw, 17:22:47)
  11. (2176732) delete an album and undo the delete operation makes the album is not shown in the "Add to album" list (adamw, 17:23:02)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2176732 (adamw, 17:23:02)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1083 (adamw, 17:23:03)
    3. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gnome-photos, NEW (adamw, 17:23:06)
    4. Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+0,0,-5) (-frantisekz, -catanzaro, -nielsenb, -geraldosimiao, -lruzicka) (adamw, 17:23:08)
    5. Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+1,0,-0) (+lruzicka) (adamw, 17:23:11)
    6. AGREED: 2176732 - AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - this is accepted to improve final release polish, so long as the proposed fix does not present any risk to anything more important (adamw, 17:29:09)

  12. (2177722) systemd-oomd extremely aggressive in killing non-DE logins (sshd or console) and any commands running in them (adamw, 17:29:22)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2177722 (adamw, 17:29:27)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1090 (adamw, 17:29:30)
    3. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, systemd, NEW (adamw, 17:29:35)
    4. AGREED: 2177722 - punt (delay decision) - it's hard to make any decision here without some details of any proposed fix. we will leave this until there's actually a necessary decision to make (i.e. a proposed fix during the freeze period) (adamw, 17:40:30)

  13. Open floor (adamw, 17:40:51)


Meeting ended at 17:42:26 UTC (full logs).

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  2. kparal (54)
  3. lruzicka (50)
  4. geraldosimiao (36)
  5. bcotton (29)
  6. frantisekz (21)
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