16:00:22 <adamw> #startmeeting F39-blocker-review
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16:00:22 <adamw> #meetingname F39-blocker-review
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16:00:23 <adamw> #topic Roll Call
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16:00:25 <adamw> morning folks
16:00:29 <adamw> time for a very short meeting!
16:00:48 * coremodule is here, hi adamw
16:01:06 * coremodule has a confession to make.
16:01:50 <coremodule> I totally forgot to do the secretarialization work last week. That was my bad and I'm sorry for missing it. Thank you to whoever took care of it.
16:01:50 <adamw> i am not a licensed priest, but go ahead
16:01:59 <adamw> I think I did?
16:02:08 <adamw> so, you're welcome. :P
16:02:10 <coremodule> grovel grovel
16:03:04 <adamw> #chair coremodule
16:03:04 <zodbot> Current chairs: adamw coremodule
16:03:04 <zodbot_> Current chairs: adamw coremodule
16:03:12 <adamw> let's just blow through this, since we have nothing to actually vote on
16:03:19 <coremodule> sure
16:03:20 <adamw> boilerplate time!
16:03:21 <adamw> #topic Introduction
16:03:22 <adamw> Why are we here?
16:03:22 <adamw> #info Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs.
16:03:22 <adamw> #info We'll be following the process outlined at:
16:03:22 <adamw> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
16:03:26 <adamw> #info The bugs up for review today are available at:
16:03:28 <adamw> #link http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current
16:03:30 <adamw> #info The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at:
16:03:32 <adamw> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria
16:03:34 <adamw> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_39_Beta_Release_Criteria
16:03:36 <adamw> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_39_Final_Release_Criteria
16:03:38 <adamw> #info for F39 Final, we have:
16:03:40 <adamw> #info 4 Accepted Blockers
16:03:42 <adamw> #info 1 Accepted Previous Release Blockers
16:03:45 <adamw> #info 4 Accepted Freeze Exceptions
16:04:00 <adamw> #info as there are no proposed blockers or FEs, we will not need a secretary
16:04:05 <adamw> #info let's cut straight to:
16:04:10 <adamw> #topic Accepted Final blockers
16:04:21 <adamw> #topic (2241632) Netinstall ISO renders a black screen when using kickstart install (bare metal and VM)
16:04:21 <adamw> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2241632
16:04:22 <adamw> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1354
16:04:22 <adamw> #info Accepted Blocker, mutter, POST
16:05:29 <adamw> #info there is now a proposal upstream which seems to me to fix everything - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/merge_requests/3329#note_1874837 . it has not been moved past the state of 'comment on the PR' yet, though. I will try and get that moved forward today
16:05:42 <coremodule> cool
16:05:43 <adamw> #action adamw to get the fix for 2241632 moved along in the process
16:06:25 <adamw> #topic (2113005) Live image made with BOOTX64.EFI from latest shim-x64-15.6-2 fails to boot on some boards
16:06:25 <adamw> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2113005
16:06:25 <adamw> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1154
16:06:25 <adamw> #info Accepted Blocker, shim, NEW
16:06:27 <adamw> #info to be waived
16:06:33 <adamw> #topic (2241252) U-Boot fails to load kernel provided DTs from /boot (RPi4 boots to blank screen)
16:06:33 <adamw> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2241252
16:06:33 <adamw> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1352
16:06:35 <adamw> #info Accepted Blocker, uboot-tools, ASSIGNED
16:06:44 <coremodule> I have tested this using an RPi4 on Fedora-Minimal-39-20231016.n.0.aarch64.raw.xz and Fedora-Workstation-39-20231016.n.0.aarch64.raw.xz with the new uboot, it works just like it should. I'm currently writing today's Workstation image to test there, but I  can confirm that this new uboot fixes the issue.
16:06:56 <adamw> that's the hardcoded one though, right?
16:07:03 <coremodule> yes
16:07:04 <adamw> also, spot the guy who had his paste buffer lined up. :D
16:07:12 <coremodule> but at least we know what to do
16:07:23 <adamw> can you add that as a comment to the bug just so we look busy? :D
16:07:26 <coremodule> lol, I've been testing all morning, gotta get my info out!
16:07:47 <coremodule> yes, as soon as I get today's image tested, I will write a comment with the three images I tested
16:07:58 <coremodule> autocorrect
16:08:06 <adamw> #info pbrobinson gave an update in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2241252#c16 , he knows what the issue is here in detail and is working on the fix. coremodule has confirmed by testing that pbrobinson is on the right track
16:08:29 <adamw> anything else on that?
16:08:34 <coremodule> nope, all I had!
16:09:03 <adamw> #topic (2244305) Fedora Server 39 does not boot on Raspberry Pi 4 (RPi4) from microSD card slot
16:09:03 <adamw> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2244305
16:09:03 <adamw> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1411
16:09:03 <adamw> #info Accepted Blocker, uboot-tools, POST
16:09:09 <coremodule> okay, I have something here too
16:09:13 <adamw> fire away
16:09:40 <coremodule> just from my own personal testing, I haven't run into this a single time, and I've booted an RPi4 with SD cards seriously like 30 times since this time last week
16:10:16 <coremodule> not that that necessarily means anything, but, should it come down to it, I would be willing to argue that we shouldn't block on it based off my personal testing. just my testing.
16:10:30 <nielsenb> I haven't been able to hit it either
16:10:46 <nielsenb> Does anyone have a link to the upstream discussion of the fix referenced?
16:11:12 <coremodule> nielsenb, I don't...
16:11:52 <adamw> that also sounds like useful information on deciding whether whatever trade-off the fix comes with is worth it
16:12:02 <adamw> again, could you guys add that to the bug as comments if you didn't already?
16:12:24 <coremodule> wilco
16:14:00 <adamw> #info pbrobinson posted in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2244305#c14 (without any references) that there is a potential fix for this being discussed upstream, but it comes with unspecified tradeoffs. coremodule and nielsenb note that they have not been able to trigger the bug
16:14:10 <nielsenb> Well, my 20 seconds on DuckDuckGo didn't turn anything up, I'll just assume it's spicy
16:14:25 <adamw> #info we will need more details on the potential fix and then we'll have to decide whether it's worth pulling it in based on how common the bug seems to be
16:15:40 <adamw> i think it may be https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2023-October/533018.html ? not sure
16:16:26 <adamw> oh, no. maybe https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2023-October/533298.html
16:18:05 <adamw> https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2023-October/534553.html is juicy!
16:18:23 <adamw> anyhow.
16:18:33 <adamw> that's all we got
16:18:35 <adamw> #topic Open floor
16:19:04 <coremodule> sweet!
16:19:07 <coremodule> good meeting
16:19:19 <nielsenb> A real tour de force
16:21:10 <adamw> my favorite kinda meeting
16:21:54 <nielsenb> That thread indeed gets spicy
16:22:56 <coremodule> updated both rpi4 bugs with my experiences
16:22:56 <adamw> taking a quick look at testcase_stats it looks like our testing coverage is pretty solid
16:23:00 <adamw> thanks coremodule
16:24:49 <geraldosimiao> .hello geraldosimiao
16:24:49 <zodbot_> geraldosimiao: [hellomynameis geraldosimiao]
16:24:50 <zodbot> geraldosimiao: geraldosimiao 'Geraldo S. Simião Kutz' <geraldo.simiao.kutz@gmail.com>
16:25:10 <adamw> hey geraldo
16:25:13 <adamw> we're just about done :)
16:25:16 <geraldosimiao> ok
16:25:18 <adamw> did you have anything for open floor?
16:25:19 <geraldosimiao> sorry[
16:25:26 <geraldosimiao> was out from home
16:25:36 <geraldosimiao> no
16:25:42 <geraldosimiao> nothing
16:26:09 <adamw> alrighty
16:26:12 <adamw> i guess we're done here
16:26:15 <adamw> thanks for coming, folks
16:26:21 <nielsenb> Thanks for having me
16:26:24 <nielsenb> Bye
16:26:45 <adamw> #endmeeting