19:00:40 #startmeeting Fedora Board Meeting 19:00:40 Meeting started Mon Feb 28 19:00:40 2011 UTC. The chair is jsmith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00:40 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:00:45 #meetingname Fedora Board 19:00:45 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_board' 19:01:16 #chair jds2001 ke4qqq rdieter smooge spot abadger1999 jreznik kital 19:01:16 Current chairs: abadger1999 jds2001 jreznik jsmith ke4qqq kital rdieter smooge spot 19:01:19 here 19:01:25 * abadger1999 here 19:01:25 #topic roll call 19:01:32 * jsmith is here 19:01:51 * jreznik is here 19:02:18 * kital is here 19:02:20 here 19:02:20 Announcement from my owner (jsmith): Fedora Board IRC meeting in #fedora-board-meeting 19:02:55 Looks like we have a quorum 19:03:13 spot is most likely on a plane 19:03:26 mizmo is on a leave of absence 19:03:35 and I know that jds2001 had a conflict with work meetings 19:04:01 Hopefully ke4qqq can join us today 19:04:11 #topic Updates 19:04:24 Just a few quick updates, before we get to the meat of the meeting 19:04:55 We had our Alpha Readiness meeting last week, and determined that our release candidate did not meet the Alpha release criteria 19:05:17 There are still a couple of blockers on the alpha blocker list, so we decided to slip the schedule a week 19:06:02 Some progress is being made on the blocker items, but I'm sure some folks can still use a hand in finding the proper solutions and testing them, so that we can hopefully ship the Alpha this week 19:06:20 Questions or concerns about the Alpha? 19:07:24 Does it look like we may slip again or too soon to tell? 19:07:45 It's a bit too soon to tell -- but I'm *fairly* confident we won't have to slip the Alpha another week 19:08:02 As of Friday, things were looking quite good -- I haven't re-checked the blocker list since 19:08:23 * jsmith rechecks it quickly 19:08:34 OK, there's nothing on the list as of right now 19:08:56 That being said, release engineering cut us an RC2 image on Friday, so I'm sure that'll be getting some heavy testing today and tomorrow 19:09:11 So we may end up with a few items popping back on the list, depending on how the testing goes 19:09:40 ok 19:09:46 that is all from me. 19:09:50 Any other questions? 19:10:06 ? 19:10:10 => gholms 19:10:22 The post-alpha schedule is still the same, right? 19:10:30 (Right now, at least) 19:10:54 It'll be updated -- we slip the *entire* schedule, not just the alpha 19:11:10 In times past we've tried to make up the slip between Alpha and Beta, and it just didn't work well 19:11:22 Okee dokee 19:11:24 So it was decided that it makes more sense to slip the entire schedule by a week each time 19:11:54 I'm sure rbergeron will be updating the schedule once she gets back from SCALE 19:13:09 * jsmith also points out that our release criteria have been a bit more concrete for the past couple of releases 19:14:00 yep. 19:14:00 OK, that's all I have for updates, unless any other Board members have items they want to add 19:16:05 I don't have any other formal Board business to discuss this week, as it's been a fairly quiet week for us 19:16:16 (little traffic on the advisory board list, etc.) 19:16:29 Let's go ahead and open things up for Q and A 19:16:37 #topic Questions and Answers with the Board 19:18:00 Heh, looking to be a short meeting. 19:18:03 Now's your chance to ask questions of the Board, get clarification on items, or generally harass us.... 19:18:19 abadger1999: Nothing wrong with that... that means I can get back to work rebuilding my laptop :-/ 19:19:24 jsmith: how do we proceed with changing board meeting times? 19:19:31 do we change them? 19:20:07 We'll most likely change the times, but so far I haven't found a time that works for all Board members 19:20:12 in the past we have just changed them. 19:20:38 I changed my times in the tool. I hope it makes it easier. 19:20:49 I'm going to open up a few other hours as well. 19:20:50 Other than Thursday I can in the end make whatever changes need to be done 19:21:05 * kital will also try to find more free slots 19:21:13 I think there are a couple of folks who have much more limited schedules than I do, unfortunately 19:22:15 ? (Random complaint when all else is done) 19:22:25 * jsmith will continue to work w/ Board members to get a time that works for all members 19:22:29 => gholms 19:22:54 I feel that http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Hot_Dog discriminates against us taco-lovers. If Fedora needs a user experience with more meat in it then it should feature a theme that is less hotdog-centric. 19:23:59 lol 19:24:11 tacos++ 19:24:12 someone may want to clean the access list :-) 19:24:26 gholms: Speaking for myself and not for the Board, I like breakfast tacos myself. Not sure the Board needs to spend any time debating the issue, though... 19:24:29 mdomsch: will do 19:24:30 fajitas :) 19:25:00 no mdomsch you have emeretis status. 19:25:57 gholms: Since the Hot Dog is animated, I suggeest you work with the feature owner to allow morphing between hot dog and taco. 19:26:08 * Viking-Rawhide points out that tacos and hot dogs are discriminating towards bacon... 19:26:14 MooDoo: +1 for fajitas! 19:26:21 That sounds like a great idea! 19:27:04 We can also use that methodology to add ponies to satisfy rbergeron. 19:27:20 Thank goodness. 19:27:32 I just want pandas and koalas 19:27:37 but anyway. 19:28:10 gholms: ponies in hot dog? :) 19:28:17 D: 19:28:18 are there any issues we need to be looking at beyond testing Alpha? 19:28:21 Any other questions/complaints/suggestions/rotten fruit? 19:28:54 I'll remind folks to blog/tweet/dent/post/socialize the goals we agreed on last week 19:29:12 jsmith: good idea 19:29:22 and work with steering committees and SIGs to start putting some tactics into play 19:30:05 I think those are the most pressing issues 19:30:21 If folks have extra time, they can continue to work on the governance documents that were started at FUDCon 19:30:35 ? 19:30:41 (but personally, I think those are lower priority than making F15 rock and getting people engaged with our goals) 19:30:43 => rbergeron 19:31:01 What's going on with the Spins SIG at this time, and how is that going to impact what spins we have for F15? 19:31:19 ! 19:31:28 => bruce89 19:31:29 Ugh... 19:31:31 => brunowolff 19:31:36 Spins SIGs restart seems to be moving slowly. 19:31:36 * jsmith is a fail whale today 19:32:00 brunowolff: It does seem to be going slow. I'll try to get in contact w/ cwickert today and see what we can do to jumpstart that 19:32:05 Christoph asked for times to schedule meetings a week or two ago and hasn't come back 19:32:06 Last I saw, he was trying to find a time that worked 19:32:12 with a schedule yet. 19:32:18 I'll try to find out where we're at with that 19:32:28 So I suspect the response rate might have been low. 19:32:29 #action jsmith to contact cwickert regarding Spins SIG reboot 19:33:00 The various desktop spins are getting active work though, so in the end those should be OK. 19:33:19 Right.... 19:33:38 Any significant changes to spins will happen for F16, and we're already past the spins freeze for F15 19:34:30 * jreznik would like to help with Spins SIG too 19:38:37 Any other questions? 19:39:34 yes, when can I get a pepsi? 19:40:14 :) 19:40:19 tatica: From a Pepsi machine, perhaps? 19:40:31 jsmith++ 19:40:45 lol 19:41:07 didn't she say when though, not where ;) 19:41:21 Oh, *when* 19:41:26 * jsmith is still a fail whale today 19:41:39 tatica: Hopefully before FUDCon Panama :-) 19:42:05 with poprocks lol 19:42:57 Ok, if there are not further questions in the next three minutes, then we'll adjourn 19:43:08 s/not/not any/ 19:46:50 Thanks everyone! 19:46:53 #endmeeting