16:05:11 #startmeeting F13Beta review 16:05:12 Meeting started Fri Mar 26 16:05:11 2010 UTC. The chair is jlaska. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:05:14 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:05:23 #meetingname f-13-beta-blocker-review 16:05:24 The meeting name has been set to 'f-13-beta-blocker-review' 16:05:27 #topic Gathering 16:05:36 #chair adamw 16:05:38 Current chairs: adamw jlaska 16:06:07 dlehman: welcome 16:06:37 * jlaska pulls up blocker list while waiting for others to join 16:06:44 Sorry I'm late 16:06:46 but I'm here. 16:07:05 Oxf13: no worries, things just got started 16:07:40 #topic Why are we here ... 16:07:51 just a reminder (for me really) 16:07:58 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting 16:08:13 we're here to review the F13Beta list and determine whether the contents are Beta blockers 16:08:25 The list of F13Beta blocker bugs - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=538274&hide_resolved=1 16:09:02 do we want to include ON_QA and MODIFIED bugs during review? 16:09:15 NEW + MODIFIED + ON_QA = 15 bugs 16:09:23 NEW = 3 bugs 16:09:26 i think we should run through them quickly to make sure that we have a plan for confirming the fixes 16:09:34 we should since we have the capability of testing some of those MODIFIED 16:09:41 alrighty ... lemme sort by component ... 16:10:23 http://tinyurl.com/yk9dgez 16:10:31 okay, starting off ... 16:10:38 #topic https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=569377 16:10:39 Bug 569377: medium, low, ---, pjones, MODIFIED, CDROM install unable to eject disc - storage: error ejecting cdrom sr0: (5, 'Input/output error') 16:11:00 cranes maska time! 16:11:11 he's a good guy, I really like him 16:11:12 a lot 16:11:33 well, I tested the updates.img for this yesterday 16:11:42 now it just needs testing against the updated images 16:12:22 seems simple enough 16:12:33 it does ... this might come up again later when we look at the last anaconda bug on the list 16:12:42 anything else to discuss here? 16:12:55 just needs somebody to test split media 16:13:01 not really, as long as it's on your list to test we're all good 16:13:08 #info Tested updates.img - Fixed in anaconda-13.37-1 (F-13-Beta-RC1) awaiting testing 16:13:33 alrighty, next up 16:13:38 #topic https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=574587 16:13:40 Bug 574587: high, high, ---, hdegoede, MODIFIED, Failure to install on Intel Matrix RAID box when raid level 5 is active 16:13:59 #info Fix included in anaconda-13.37-1 (F-13-Beta-RC1) 16:14:16 looks like we need dledford to re-test with rc1 16:14:21 yeah 16:14:35 adamw: you already posting in the bz? 16:14:46 yeah I have no way to re-test this 16:15:07 same here, I don't have access to this type of hardware right now 16:15:16 jlaska: will do 16:15:50 #help needs confirmation that the fix solves the reported problem ... possibly dledford 16:16:19 posted 16:16:19 #action adamw requesting updated test results in bz 16:16:22 adamw: thx 16:16:25 alright, next up ... 16:16:36 #topic https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=574743 16:16:37 Bug 574743: medium, medium, ---, dlehman, MODIFIED, NameError: global name 'request' is not defined 16:17:32 #info Fixed in anaconda-13.37-1 (F-13-Beta-RC1) - awaiting re-test 16:18:16 a lot of these are going to be on you to re-test, james - do you want any help with some of them? 16:18:31 not much else to say here ... dlehman's fixes here looked solid in the updates.img tested yesterday 16:18:50 #action jlaska to retest fix and update bz 16:19:01 adamw: definitely! 16:19:39 the reproducer should be in the bug report ... but I think the best people can do is edit pre-existing partitions during install 16:19:42 dlehman does that sound good? 16:20:19 preexisting logical volumes, right? 16:20:45 #help Looking to help test? Install F-13-Beta-RC1 and play around with pre-existing logical volumes during install 16:20:49 jlaska: i can take some of the ones that can be tested in a VM if you like - shall we sort it out in pm after the meeting? 16:21:23 adamw: okay, yeah we can divide up afterwards 16:21:30 see how each of our plates looks 16:21:49 next up ... 16:21:56 #topic https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=575855 16:21:57 Bug 575855: medium, low, ---, clumens, MODIFIED, Referencing disks by-path in clearpart doesn't work 16:22:55 #info Fixed in anaconda-13.37-1 (F-13-Beta-RC1) - awaiting testing 16:23:24 sounds like this needs kickstart testing 16:23:33 looks like orion poplawski is the initial reporter? 16:23:48 yeah, I'd like if we could get his help confirming the fix 16:24:22 i can post in the bug 16:24:30 adamw: go for it 16:24:41 this shouldn't be hard to test, it's just the time to setup 16:25:08 #action adamw asking Orion Poplawski for help testing the fix 16:25:33 dlehman: do you know if that patch accounts for orion's comment? 16:25:37 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=575855#c2 16:25:41 > Well, I can use the /dev/disk/by-path/... form but not disk/by-path/... 16:25:42 Bug 575855: medium, low, ---, clumens, MODIFIED, Referencing disks by-path in clearpart doesn't work 16:26:32 jlaska: yeah, he made it so you can take or leave the leading '/dev/' 16:26:47 yeah, docs confirm that too ... cool 16:26:55 * jlaska confirmed at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Kickstart 16:27:01 okay, next up ... 16:27:16 #topic https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=576085 16:27:17 Bug 576085: medium, medium, ---, anaconda-maint-list, MODIFIED, TypeError: format requires a mapping 16:27:43 #info Fixed in anaconda-13.37-1 (F-13-Beta-RC1) - awaiting re-test 16:28:05 Hurry found this while testing Beta-TC1, I'll ask her if the issue is still present 16:28:49 i'm not sure the rest of us could test this, i'm not entirely sure what her step 2. means 16:29:17 I believe she was testing - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestCases/PartitioningExt2OnNativeDevice 16:29:28 then shrinking the partition on the next install 16:29:36 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_(shrink)_install 16:30:09 #action jlaska updated bz asking for help from Hurry to re-test 16:30:28 okay, moving on ... stop me if I'm going to fast (or slow :) ) 16:30:43 #topic https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=576529 16:30:44 Bug 576529: medium, medium, ---, dlehman, MODIFIED, KeyError: 'originalFormat' 16:31:01 #info Fixed in anaconda-13.37-1 (F-13-Beta-RC1) - awaiting re-test 16:31:10 same deal here, this is easy for me to retest 16:31:23 I confirmed the fix in an updates.img, but will re-test in RC1 16:31:31 oka 16:31:32 y 16:31:40 #action jlaska will retest 576529 on F-13-Beta-RC1 16:31:51 next up ... 16:31:52 #topic https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=576628 16:31:53 Bug 576628: medium, medium, ---, anaconda-maint-list, MODIFIED, AttributeError: 'DMRaidMember' object has no attribute 'partedDisk' 16:32:31 #info Fixed in anaconda-13.37-1 (F-13-Beta-RC1) - awaiting re-test 16:32:59 I've not tested this in an updates.img, but the reproducer involves attempting to manually create partitions on BIOS RAID hardware 16:33:14 I've got the setup for this already, so I plan to test 16:33:26 I think I can test this too 16:33:29 anyone else with BIOS RAID is encouraged to contribute results as well 16:33:34 Oxf13: cool, thanks 16:33:35 since I have a dmraid machine with an install already on it 16:33:57 #action Oxf13 to confirm fix for 576628 16:33:59 #action jlaska and Oxf13 will post test results for 576628 against F-13-Beta-RC1 16:34:06 #undo 16:34:07 jynx 16:34:07 Removing item from minutes: 16:34:12 love that undo :) 16:34:23 #action jlaska will also post test results for 576628 against F-13-Beta-RC1 16:34:36 there we go, that works ... gives me a good TODO list :) 16:34:46 okay, last MODIFIED anaconda bug ... 16:34:48 #topic https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=576691 16:34:49 Bug 576691: medium, medium, ---, clumens, MODIFIED, ValueError: Error parsing "proxy = 'intel-s3ea2-02.rhts.eng.bos.redhat.com:8080'": URL must be http, ftp or https not "intel-s3ea2-02.rhts.eng.bos.redhat.com" 16:35:06 #info Fixed in anaconda-13.37-1 (F-13-Beta-RC1) 16:35:22 I'm not sure how to test this really, it involves installing from a proxy 16:35:35 I bet clumens could restest for us 16:35:38 retest even 16:35:47 atodorov can probably help here too 16:37:00 #action jlaska to ask atodorov+clumens for help verifying fix 16:37:19 adamw: can you take it from here, I'm sorry I've got to step out for a moment 16:37:27 sure 16:37:56 jlaska: what list have you been working from? 16:38:09 tinyurl at the top ... /me grabs 16:38:26 http://tinyurl.com/yk9dgez 16:39:00 ok, let's go with 16:39:01 #topic https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=577196 16:39:03 Bug 577196: medium, low, ---, anaconda-maint-list, NEW, Freeze when installing bootloader 16:39:17 this is the only un-modified anaconda bug 16:39:28 seems new in rc1 16:39:29 the freeze is actually when ejecting the cdrom 16:39:42 and revealed by the disc swap fix for split media? 16:39:49 seems so 16:41:02 cute 16:41:04 so it seems this is a pretty obvious show-stopper, no need to debate its blockerness 16:41:12 do you reckon you'll be able to fix it soon? 16:41:16 sounds right 16:41:16 the install is done at this point, just doesn't reboot on its own? 16:41:24 no idea about fix eta 16:41:42 Oxf13: yeah, box locks up 16:42:33 do we know if this happens on real hardware, or only in virt? 16:43:17 jlaska's obviously seen it, but his comments don't mention how he was testing 16:43:20 good question 16:43:32 well, hopefully we can get a fix in for it, asap 16:43:35 the original unable to eject bug was real hw 16:43:51 right, we're on a tight timescale for beta here 16:44:05 Oxf13: it doesn't look like we're doing anything wrong in anaconda 16:44:17 ideally we'd want a fix over the weekend, certainly early monday, to have any chance of spinning a new build with the fix and running the matrix before go/no-go 16:44:39 dlehman: any chance pjones would know more than you, or are you up to speed with his latest thoughts? 16:45:07 he's going to get back into after he eats 16:45:09 wait, this sounds familiar 16:45:15 freezing when ejecting in virt 16:45:45 i can't easily test on real hw :/ i *really* need a test disk, sigh. should just go buy one. 16:46:42 anyway, summary: we need to verify whether this affects virt only or also real hw, and we need to get a fix asap :) 16:46:44 is there more to say? 16:47:12 not afaik 16:47:27 the X log in jlaska's logs identifies the graphics card as a Cirrus 16:47:31 which smells like virt to me 16:48:02 so we definitely need real hw testing. i'll try and find a way to do it, but oxf13/jlaska if you also could that'd be good 16:48:13 I can do 16:48:24 #agreed 577196 is clearly a showstopper, needs a fix ASAP. need to verify if it happens on real hardware or only in virt 16:48:30 yeah -- disks are vda, vdb 16:48:32 #action oxf13 and adamw to test on real hw 16:48:39 #action dlehman and pjones to co-ordinate on fix 16:49:27 ok, i believe we're done with anaconda now 16:49:28 thanks dlehman 16:49:41 np 16:50:25 ok, so let's take the next few bugs as a group: 16:50:42 #topic https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=567346 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=577123 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=577100 16:50:45 Bug 567346: high, low, ---, richard, ON_QA, gpk-update-viewer does not install updates if there is any dependency issue, and does not correctly report this 16:50:49 Bug 577123: medium, low, ---, davidz, NEW, dbus unresolved dep on Beta.RC1 x86_64 16:50:49 Bug 577100: medium, low, ---, richard, NEW, PackageKit-related unresolved deps on Beta.RC1 16:51:06 so oxf13 pulled a new PackageKit build into RC1, at my request - that's 567346 16:51:30 unfortunately this version has a lib major bump compared to the previous package, and this has introduced some dependency issues 16:52:09 I didn't notice it in the pungi logs either because pungi just pulled in the old PackageKit to match deps 16:52:16 the new pk definitely addressed the underlying 567346 bug, for me: i had a problematic update set, i updated to the newer packagekit, and the update worked 16:52:21 Oxf13: ah, yeah - i was guessing that's what happened 16:52:41 which means I need to actually run repoclosure on my repos with --newest before I assume they're good 16:52:42 Oxf13: the old one being available from dist-f13, i guess? 16:52:46 yep 16:52:52 right, just needs a process tighten i guess 16:53:09 so so far we know we need a newer dbus, kpackagekit and gnome-packagekit 16:53:15 I've pulled the gnome-packagekit and kpackagekit builds into my bleed repo 16:53:25 just need to make sure these are bundled with the PackageKit bodhi request 16:53:40 #action Oxf13 to make sure kpackagekit and gnome-packagekit are bundled with PackageKit update in bodhi 16:54:00 actually, is the dbus issue different? i may be reading the output wrong 16:54:41 dbus too? 16:54:47 that's https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=577123 16:54:47 I wasn't aware of a dbus issue 16:54:48 Bug 577123: medium, low, ---, davidz, NEW, dbus unresolved dep on Beta.RC1 x86_64 16:54:53 i thought it was related to this but i may be misreading 16:55:01 i will ask mclasen to update the Bodhi request 16:55:44 I already updated the PackageKit update request 16:55:48 oh ok :) 16:56:52 hrm, so I think the dbus thing might just be because I didn't make my bleed repo multilib 16:56:53 #action oxf13 to pull newer kpackagekit and gnome-packagekit into Beta, and added to the Bodhi update request: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/PackageKit-0.6.3-0.1.20100322git.fc13 16:56:59 not sure though, will have to investigate 16:57:01 okay, let me separate it out then 16:57:07 adamw: you missed my earlier action call 16:57:09 #undo 16:57:25 d'oh, thanks 16:57:26 #undo 16:57:28 Removing item from minutes: 16:57:39 #topic https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=577123 16:57:40 Bug 577123: medium, low, ---, davidz, NEW, dbus unresolved dep on Beta.RC1 x86_64 16:57:52 this one I have to look into more 16:57:55 so as discussed above, this isn't related to the packagekit issue. 16:58:09 it's obviously a blocker, as repoclosure fails 16:58:14 #agreed 577123 is a blocker 16:58:17 almost certainly it's because I didn't make my bleed repo multilib 16:58:26 #action oxf13 to investigate the cause and fix for next build 16:58:30 however installs from DVD won't do multilib by default so this shouldn't actually break anything 16:58:54 I don't really think it is a blocker because those i686 packages aren't actually used when installing from DVD/split media 16:59:04 in fact I was thinking we should remove them from the media 16:59:07 hmm, okay. 16:59:15 they haven't been used since yum defaulted to "best arch" strategy 16:59:49 i'm a little nervous - it feels like one of those things where we might go 'oops, but of COURSE they get used when XXXXX' next week - but i'll go with it if you're confident :) 17:00:43 #agreed correction: 577123 not a blocker: oxf13 "I don't really think it is a blocker because those i686 packages aren't actually used when installing from DVD/split media" 17:01:25 brb, I have a visitor, shouldn't take more than 5 minutes 17:01:47 ok 17:01:51 i've updated the bug 17:02:48 #topic https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533746 17:02:49 Bug 533746: urgent, low, ---, linville, ON_QA, Fedora 12 livecd freezes at udev on Acer Aspire One D250 17:03:07 despite the bug name this affects f13 too. it's the 'hang with some broadcom wireless chips' bug 17:03:42 i consider it a beta blocker - it's a judgment call issue as it's a some-hardware-affected one; the amount of affected systems is big enough for it to be a blocker at beta stage, imo. 17:04:04 it should be fixed in kernel-2.6.33.1-19.fc13 . oxf13, is that the one which got pulled into rc1? 17:06:13 back. 17:06:24 yes 17:06:29 I think 17:06:30 let me check 17:06:54 yep, 1-19 17:06:59 it's already in branched stable 17:07:33 okay 17:07:38 i'll try and get someone from the bug to test 17:07:46 i don't believe we (qa) have any affected systems unfortunately 17:07:58 yeah, that's the problem. 17:09:03 okay. not much else to say here then i guess 17:09:24 oh, except the fix i believe still doesn't actually make the wireless work with the open driver, it just prevents the hang 17:09:31 right 17:09:35 that's the best we can hope for at this point 17:09:44 #action adamw to request testing from bug reporters for 533746, fix should be in RC1 17:11:07 if we can't get a confirmation i think we should just assume it's fixed and go ahead and ship, but it'd be nice to have confirmation 17:11:27 okay, last one 17:11:29 #topic https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572215 17:11:30 Bug 572215: medium, low, ---, jforbes, ON_QA, unhandled vm exit: 0x11 - while creating a guest using virt-install 17:12:04 this is still in updates-testing for F12 isn't it? 17:12:10 seems like this has been worked on for f12 but not f13 17:12:13 seems that way 17:12:21 i'm just reading the comments, don't know anything else about this one 17:12:31 let's see if we can get jforbes in 17:14:03 hiya justin 17:14:14 we're on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572215 17:14:16 Bug 572215: medium, low, ---, jforbes, ON_QA, unhandled vm exit: 0x11 - while creating a guest using virt-install 17:14:49 oh, i see now - this is an f13 blocker, but it's actually in f12 17:14:58 adamw: right, so there is an update in testing which fixes this, but it shouldnt be an F13 blocker at all 17:15:01 we don't need to push anything to f13 to fix it... 17:15:19 no, it's correct for it to be an f13 blocker - one of the criteria for f13 is that it should boot on an f12 host 17:15:22 Yeah, the bug was in the F12 host, F13 already has the fix 17:15:36 there are a few situations where a bug in N-1 can actually block N, though it sounds odd :) 17:16:19 as far as i'm concerned we can drop this from the blocker list just since it's available in updates-testing, we can always document the use of the updates-testing package; but obviously it's best when it gets to f12 updates. so all it needs is testing to confirm it's okay, I guess. 17:16:26 adamw: Well, in this case I wouldn't think it makes sense... 17:16:59 adamw: Right, update just needs a bit more karma 17:17:22 oh yeah, it's the one that got a couple of -1s 17:17:22 adamw: anyway, nothign you can do in F13 to change this, which is why I find it odd as a blocker. 17:18:00 Right, the first -1 is silly. It doesnt fix a bug completely, certainly no regression though. 17:18:18 well, that's mostly our fault that we don't have clearly defined what you're supposed to vote for 17:18:27 the second -1 looks a bit more worrying; have you looked into that? 17:20:03 adamw: yeah, it seems a bit odd... 17:20:46 well let's see, anyway. i guess the summary is we'd like the fix to go into f12 asap, but not if there's regressions; for now, we should document the use of the updates-testing package for those wanting to boot f13 on f12 systems, i'll put a note in common bugs for both releases... 17:21:28 adamw: FWIW, most people running F12 wont need the update either. 17:21:37 ah ok 17:21:56 what's the specific circumstance here, then? 17:22:10 adamw: jlaska is one of a very small number who run 32bit kvm hosts... It hasn't been seen or reported on 64bit 17:22:23 oh right 17:22:36 this is 32bit kvm host stuff, which at one point wasn't even supported 17:23:38 ohh, right. 17:23:46 so it's only if you're running a 32-bit f12 host. gotcha. 17:23:59 ok, i think that's everything...thanks jforbes :) 17:24:16 NP 17:24:40 Oxf13: so would you agree we can drop this a blocker as it's a) a corner case and b) workaroundable now? 17:24:47 yeah 17:24:49 okey dokey 17:25:07 #agreed 572215 is not a blocker: it affects only 32-bit kvm hosts (corner case) and is workaroundable with a candidate update 17:25:17 #action adamw to document use of updates-testing package in f12 common bugs page for those affected 17:25:39 well, that's the end of the list, i believe 17:26:12 any other bugs to bring up? i don't have any 17:26:46 what do the test results look like for RC1 thus far? 17:27:42 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test 17:27:43 and 17:27:50 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test 17:28:21 haven't been able to do the desktop testing yet 17:28:32 i would be surprised if the results differ from tc1, but hey, that's why we do the testing :) 17:29:11 we have a failure in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestCases/KickstartKsHttpServerKsCfg logged by liam, with no associated bug report 17:29:32 other than that, no failures we haven't already discussed 17:30:45 nod 17:32:04 might be worth dropping a quick email to liam to ask about that failure 17:32:05 i can do that 17:32:20 #action adamw to check in with lili about the failure he logged in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestCases/KickstartKsHttpServerKsCfg 17:32:58 okay then...i think we're done here? 17:33:07 yeah, we'd need ot know what ks he used and whether it had graphical listed or not in the ks 17:33:10 I think so too 17:35:39 alrighty 17:35:42 thanks 17:35:46 #endmeeting