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14:31:47 <jbair> .hello2 jimbair
14:31:48 <zodbot> jbair: Sorry, but you don't exist
14:31:58 <siddharthvipul> .hello siddharthvipul1
14:31:59 <zodbot> siddharthvipul: siddharthvipul1 'Vipul Siddharth' <siddharthvipul1@gmail.com>
14:32:06 <siddharthvipul> jbair: just .hello :)
14:32:12 <jbair> .hello jimbair
14:32:13 <zodbot> jbair: jimbair 'Jim Bair' <jbair@redhat.com>
14:32:15 <jbair> there we go
14:32:17 <jbair> ty :)
14:32:18 <bgoncalv> .hello2
14:32:19 <zodbot> bgoncalv: bgoncalv 'Bruno Goncalves' <bgoncalv@redhat.com>
14:32:25 <siddharthvipul> .hello2 when your irc nick == fas id :D
14:32:34 <siddharthvipul> hello everyone \o
14:32:36 <jbair> I didn't read into it :)
14:32:37 <jbair> hi!
14:32:39 <tflink> morning
14:32:45 <jbair> https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-ci
14:32:54 <jbair> not sure if the agenda items are for this week or for the last meeting
14:33:00 <jbair> but we can chat if we don't have any set agenda
14:33:15 <jbair> I'll assume "next" means today :)
14:34:04 <jbair> #topic datacenter migration
14:34:32 <jbair> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/L3MAYSUM52C4G6PFVDZ6SEFKHCHGUUZS/
14:34:43 <jbair> The above email has a good overview of upcoming events
14:34:53 <jbair> Looks like a few services will bounce to finalize the migration
14:35:30 <bookwar> .hello2
14:35:31 <zodbot> bookwar: bookwar 'Aleksandra Fedorova' <alpha@bookwar.info>
14:35:40 <siddharthvipul> bookwar: hellow :)
14:35:54 <bookwar> there will be a lot of disruptions due to datacenter move
14:36:09 <jbair> looks like they will occur this week and next week
14:36:21 <bookwar> so we should be expecting infra failures during that time
14:36:44 <bookwar> btw, maybe it is a good time to identify out infra dependencies
14:37:22 <jbair> agreed
14:37:33 <bookwar> if there something unexpected which starts to fail because of some service outage, we need to record it somewhere that we have this dependency on the service
14:37:52 <jbair> Is there a good place for it? The etherpad?
14:38:09 <bookwar> maybe just issue in Pagure?
14:38:59 <jbair> So long as we have an action with the issues - something to do after finding the dependency
14:39:05 <jbair> like updating code to account for outages or something
14:39:53 <bookwar> good point
14:40:09 <bookwar> the action would be to document them in our ci docs i think
14:40:46 <jbair> outages start today, so keep your eyes open everyone :)
14:41:20 <jbair> this may be a good time to switch to the centOS cluster topic since it's infra-related?
14:41:42 <siddharthvipul> let's do this :)
14:42:01 <bookwar> +1
14:42:02 <jbair> #topic ocp4 on centos cluster
14:42:09 <jbair> siddharthvipul: how's the cluster going?
14:42:19 <siddharthvipul> so the cluster is deployed with valid certs, automated storage and things
14:42:26 <siddharthvipul> a little bit of petting needed
14:42:40 <siddharthvipul> but it's good enough time to start discussing migration plan
14:43:02 <siddharthvipul> we have added ACO authentication to the cluster (but it's still not quite there to be used by a general user)
14:43:20 <jbair> ACO auth?
14:43:50 <siddharthvipul> accounts.centos.org (apart from direct kubeadmin login)
14:44:30 <jbair> ah
14:44:36 <jbair> so like FAS but for centOS :)
14:44:51 <siddharthvipul> yep, different ipsilon instance
14:44:54 <bookwar> siddharthvipul: can you create a test project inside that cluster and give access to us (at least jim) so that we can start playing with it? we don't need auth yet, but we would use persistent volumes and stuff
14:45:33 <siddharthvipul> bookwar: yes we can
14:45:43 <jbair> are we keeping those two forms of auth separate for awhile? Apologies if a silly question - somehow I haven't heard of it until now =)
14:45:53 <jbair> and you can call the project in OCP fedora-ci - keeps it simple :)
14:46:08 <siddharthvipul> bookwar: we are still working on nfs parts for persistent volumes
14:46:17 <siddharthvipul> we have local storage pieces for now
14:46:38 <bookwar> siddharthvipul: do you have also ceph? or is it just nfs for now?
14:46:54 <siddharthvipul> no, we are not using rook/ceph, just nfs
14:47:02 <bookwar> ok
14:47:52 <siddharthvipul> jbair: bookwar we have created a ticket in "JIRA" and will update you all once we have a test namespace ready for y'all
14:48:11 <bookwar> thanks. I think getting the project early is helpful. We won't migrate anything yet, but we will check what other requirements we have for the migration and provide feedback on it
14:48:16 <siddharthvipul> jbair: can you create a centos account for now and send me the id
14:48:31 <siddharthvipul> bookwar: yes, definitely :)
14:48:32 <jbair> siddharthvipul: I can :)
14:48:43 <jbair> I'll do it after the meeting and ping you with the username
14:48:47 <jbair> mostly debating jimbair vs jbair lol
14:48:56 <siddharthvipul> jbair: take your time, no hurry at all :P
14:49:11 <siddharthvipul> jbair: probably keep it same as FAS (will be easier in future haha)
14:49:42 <siddharthvipul> well, with future it's noggin and probably won't have that problem, but different discussion
14:50:01 <jbair> ack :)
14:50:09 <jbair> anything else on the new cluster?
14:50:47 <jbair> #topic Monitoring: reading fedmsg and counting it
14:50:51 <siddharthvipul> nothing much, I just wanted to "raise awareness" that this is coming along and we should plan.. a good action item on us to give you namespace and play around is good for now
14:50:52 <jbair> bookwar I think this one is yours
14:51:01 <jbair> siddharthvipul: got it!
14:51:21 <bookwar> jbair: yes, that's from last time
14:51:31 <bookwar> i just wanted to share this project https://github.com/bookwar/fm-metrics
14:52:02 <bookwar> i have created a small app which counts messages on the message bus and classifies them by topic and exposes them in prometheus form
14:52:18 <jbair> oh nice
14:52:20 <bookwar> i haven't done much with it yet
14:52:49 <bookwar> my goal is to add it to prometheus infra set up by mvadkert, so we can get metrics on ci messages in grafana
14:53:05 <bookwar> so just for your info, and contributions and feedback is welcome
14:53:21 <jbair> nice! That should help for sure
14:53:29 <jbair> I'll have to clone it and try it out
14:53:35 <bookwar> it is also an example of how one can use twisted app with fedora message bus listener
14:54:25 <jbair> The last topic we have without an owner, assuming it's valid is about installability and rpmdeplint
14:54:38 <jbair> not sure if that's msrb or someone else :)
14:54:44 <bookwar> i have added it
14:55:40 <bookwar> it is just a note that we are running "empty" installability and rpmdeplint pipelines to test the infrastructure, they currently not running any tests, just report "true"
14:56:02 <jbair> #topic nstallability and rpmdeplint pipeline post green results, but don't do anything yet
14:56:09 <bookwar> we are still waiting for the backend from Testing Farm team
14:56:20 <jbair> yeah, and the console output does say that which is helpful
14:56:30 <jbair> I was looking into other failures and was glad to see those were expected when I first saw them a few weeks ago :)
14:56:53 <tflink> do we have any update on when that backend is expected?
14:57:19 <bookwar> jbair: yes, we switched them to "pass" rather than fail, so  that people get used to see them green, and when they start failing - this means there is smth real there
14:57:22 <bookwar> mvadkert: ping
14:57:22 <zodbot> bookwar: Ping with data, please: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/No_naked_pings
14:57:35 <bookwar> mvadkert: is there an update on TFT backend?
14:58:30 <bookwar> i guess he is not here today
14:58:51 <bookwar> tflink: i'll reach out to him, and send an update to ci@ mailing list
14:59:08 <tflink> bookwar: thanks
14:59:31 <tflink> I had heard a few things but nothing had been said publicly or definitively
15:00:09 <bookwar> tflink: yep, we need a status update on this
15:00:42 <jbair> #topic open discussion
15:00:57 <jbair> I know we're at time, but in case there's anything else to discuss, now is your chance :)
15:03:45 <jbair> #endmeeting