13:01:37 <bckurera> #startmeeting 13:01:37 <zodbot> Meeting started Sat Aug 20 13:01:37 2011 UTC. The chair is bckurera. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:01:37 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 13:02:00 <bckurera> #meetingname The FAms Way - Overview of the Fedora project and who are FAms 13:02:00 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'the_fams_way_-_overview_of_the_fedora_project_and_who_are_fams' 13:02:14 <bckurera> Good afternoon/ morning for FAms and other contributors, great to see you all 13:02:23 <VileGent> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bckurera/The_FAms_Way 13:02:28 <bertux> Good afternoon from France 13:02:35 <bckurera> As the first step can we get to know each other? 13:03:01 <kalpurush> Good Afternoon From Bangladesh 13:03:03 <VileGent> .fasinfo jbwillia 13:03:04 <zodbot> VileGent: User: jbwillia, Name: Ben Williams, email: vaioof@yahoo.com, Creation: 2006-04-17, IRC Nick: Southern_Gentleman, Timezone: US/Eastern, Locale: en, GPG key ID: 295A4FBC, Status: active 13:03:08 <zodbot> VileGent: Approved Groups: cla_fpca proventesters cla_fedora cla_done ambassadors gitcourses irc-support-operators freemedia 13:03:13 <kalpurush> .fasinfo kalpurush 13:03:14 <zodbot> kalpurush: User: kalpurush, Name: Moniruzzaman Monir, email: m.mzaman99@gmail.com, Creation: 2010-11-21, IRC Nick: kalpurush, Timezone: UTC, Locale: en, GPG key ID: D7100453, Status: active 13:03:16 <dramsey> .fas dramsey 13:03:18 <bertux> .fasinfo bertux 13:03:18 <zodbot> kalpurush: Unapproved Groups: proventesters test3 13:03:22 <zodbot> kalpurush: Approved Groups: cla_fpca ambassadors cla_done cla_fedora 13:03:26 <zodbot> dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' <diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com> 13:03:30 <zodbot> bertux: User: bertux, Name: Bertrand Juglas, email: b@juglas.name, Creation: 2009-08-16, IRC Nick: bertux, Timezone: Europe/Paris, Locale: en, GPG key ID: 304EF9B6, Status: active 13:03:34 <zodbot> bertux: Approved Groups: cla_fpca cla_fedora cla_done cvsl10n triagers fedorabugs ambassadors 13:03:39 <callkalpa> .fasinfo callkalpa 13:03:43 <zodbot> callkalpa: User: callkalpa, Name: W.H. Kalpa Pathum, email: callkalpa@gmail.com, Creation: 2009-12-18, IRC Nick: callkalpa, Timezone: Asia/Kolkata, Locale: en, GPG key ID: 11E76923, Status: active 13:03:47 <zodbot> callkalpa: Approved Groups: cla_fpca cla_fedora cla_done ambassadors freemedia 13:04:02 <bckurera> great, Lets stat the first session of The FAms Way then 13:04:16 <bckurera> I hope you all have downloaded the materials which are available at the wiki page 13:04:36 <bckurera> I ll again remind the link here, so that if anyone don’t have them please get them downloaded. 13:04:42 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bckurera/The_FAms_Way 13:05:23 <bckurera> ok cool 13:05:38 <bckurera> if there is any new FAms can they pls raise hands :) 13:06:45 <bckurera> ok seems nobody 13:06:49 <bckurera> Today;s session is named as “Overview of the Fedora project and who are FAms” 13:07:08 <bckurera> Therefore I hope the participants are into two folds; 13:07:14 <dbouida> in progress for me 13:07:30 <bckurera> great dbouida 13:07:37 <bckurera> One category is new contributors/ FAms 13:07:45 <bckurera> The others are experienced contributors/ FAms 13:07:57 <bckurera> Though the name is CLASSROOM this is not a traditional one, we encourage you to engage with the session actively and do enjoy it. 13:08:08 <bckurera> Communication should be two ways, therefore please raise your ideas and questions at the same time. 13:08:16 <bckurera> Experienced contributors and FAms please share your ideas and experiences with us. 13:08:27 <bckurera> I am Buddhika Kurera refer me as bckurera more details can be found at 13:08:33 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bckurera 13:08:47 <bckurera> The materials for the todays’ session also cover the very elementary aspects of the project as well. I just included them for the completeness though many of you are familiar with them. 13:08:56 <bckurera> First talking about the first pdf 13:09:22 <bckurera> Fedora Project and FAms 13:09:39 <bckurera> #topic Fedora Project and FAms 13:10:06 <bckurera> Slide 1 : Cover Page 13:10:15 <bckurera> hoe you all got it downloaded 13:10:22 <bckurera> anyone with problem? 13:10:42 <bckurera> seems not 13:11:31 <bckurera> Slide 2. What is Fedora Project 13:11:41 <VileGent> https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B-ZcWsgiHEbuNGI0YjIwYzUtYjVkMi00MzIzLThlZjEtYjQ1MDVkOGZlNGM3&hl=en_US 13:11:52 <bckurera> What is Fedora Project Generally Fedora is referred to mans’ felt hat but for us Fedora is a operating system, started in 2003 and large sponsor is Red Hat. The Fedora Project is a community driven project by volunteers from all over the world, around 25% of them are Red Hat employees. 13:12:28 <bckurera> many of you are familiar with those things but I ll add them for the shake of completeness 13:12:57 <bckurera> Slide 4: Governance Every project need a strong leadership, everything based on the leadership. Fedora Project is governed by the Fedora Board. Board consists 10 members, FPL, 4 Red Hat appointed Members and 5 community elected members. Those experienced set of individuals sets goals to the project and lead the community to achieve them. 13:13:22 <bckurera> Slide 5: Contribute Fedora Project Fedora Project is driven by contributors, they are volunteers and really passionate towards the Free and Open Source Software. The community varies students to professionals. Very simple contribution counts, just updating Facebook status about Fedora project is also a contribution towards the Fedora Project. 13:13:57 <bckurera> Slide 6: Join with Fedora Project There are many sub projects to facilitate the main project. According to your taste and desire plus skills any category can be chosen. For an example if you are interested in art works and you have the ability and capacity it is possible to join with the Fedora Design Team as a Designer. There is no limit. 13:14:14 <bckurera> Slide 7: Who are FAms? Fedora Ambassadors are group of contributors who are representing, promoting, and expanding the Fedora Project and its ideals to the larger F/LOSS community and the public at large. 13:14:28 <bckurera> Three main tasks to bare-mind 13:14:33 <bckurera> Represent – The Fedora Project 13:14:38 <bckurera> Promote – The Fedora Project 13:14:44 <bckurera> Expand – The Fedora Project 13:15:05 <bckurera> Slide 8: FAmSCo The FAmSCo is the governing body of the FAms and also they support FAm to carry out their work. There are 7 members and all are elected by the Fams for a two fedora releases that means for an year because Fedora release two major versions per year, May and November. 13:15:25 <bckurera> Slide 9: How Fams Organized? According to regions FAms are coordinated. Totally we have 510 FAms as per 15th Aug 2011. Every Region have meetings and regional leader to lead meetings and keep the FAms align to the Fedora Project. 13:15:36 <bckurera> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings 13:15:56 <bckurera> From Slide 1 to 9, most stuff are very basics I am sure every one of you know and familiar with those. 13:16:01 <bckurera> If you have questions or any comment please do share now. 13:16:19 <bckurera> great Experienced FAms please share your ideas 13:16:34 <VileGent> FAmNa now meets monthly 13:16:57 <bckurera> If there is anything to be rectify in slides; please do 13:17:12 <bckurera> nice update VileGent 13:17:59 <dbouida> I applied to join the group (marketing for example) but no return 13:18:18 <bckurera> return means no email? 13:18:36 <dbouida> yes 13:18:47 <VileGent> did you attend their meetings 13:19:01 <VileGent> did you join their mailing list 13:19:11 <bckurera> meetings + Mailing list 13:19:58 <bckurera> ok ok then lets move if there is anything please interrupt me, 13:19:58 <dbouida> of course , but my status ( fedora system account) ,not approved 13:20:13 <bckurera> it will take some time 13:20:21 <dbouida> ok 13:20:29 <bckurera> they need to see your commitment 13:20:32 <bckurera> be active there 13:20:44 <bckurera> any comments? 13:20:59 <bckurera> Ok then it is time to go for the next half; 13:21:05 <bckurera> Will start from slide 10 13:21:20 <bckurera> #topic Slide 10: Representing 13:21:38 <bckurera> This is a very important thing so will discuss some here in this topic 13:21:47 <bckurera> We have identified Representing Fedora Project(FP) is one of the tasks that FAm should carry out. 13:22:09 <bckurera> FAm can represent the Fedora Project at any event local and international, Local FOSS communities, Linux user Groups and simply any gathering. 13:22:31 <bckurera> here your marketing skills matter plus skills as a people person 13:22:38 <bckurera> Just using Fedora as your Operating System is the first step to represent the Fedora Project, I believe. 13:22:53 <bckurera> According to your choice and understanding many activities can be used to represent the project if it suits to. 13:23:07 <bckurera> For an example you can wear a Fedora Tshirt (Tshirt having the Fedora logo on it) when ever possible and it suits the occasion. 13:23:33 <bckurera> People around will catch the appearance and if they do not aware of the logo they tend to ask or tend to search what is this. 13:23:41 <bertux> or the Fedora Ambassador polo ;) 13:23:49 <bckurera> Therefore it is possible to represent Fedora Project anywhere in any capacity, it is basically upto you. You decide and act. But there are some guidelines to decide this. Will discuss about these at the Fedora Brand session. 13:24:14 <bckurera> How to promote Fedora effectively 13:24:27 <bckurera> any comments, ideas, questions 13:24:53 <VileGent> local Lugs are a good place to start 13:25:04 <bckurera> indeed it is 13:25:09 <VileGent> if one doesnt exist start one 13:25:11 <kalpurush> +1 , VileGent 13:25:20 <bertux> Fedora logo is often seen as a Facebook logo for those who doesn't know it :p 13:25:26 <bckurera> I like the idea of starting one :) 13:25:34 <VileGent> be open to other distros 13:25:38 <bckurera> because of the color? 13:25:52 <bertux> because of the color and the first letter 13:26:04 <bckurera> good point VileGent do not hate other distros :) 13:26:08 <bertux> and rounded typography 13:26:35 <bertux> i agree it's important to share a good ecosystem 13:26:38 <VileGent> my computer have the Fedora logo on it 13:26:42 <bckurera> ok thank for the inputs 13:26:49 <bckurera> lets move; 13:26:58 <bckurera> #topic Slide 11: Promoting 13:27:12 <bckurera> Promoting the project is another task that should be carried out by FAms. 13:27:12 <VileGent> when someone says its a FB emblem thats the opening you need to talk to them about Open Source and Fedora 13:27:14 <bckurera> Promoting basically means that spreading the work Fedora. 13:27:22 <bckurera> This can be categorized as follows. Promoting the Fedora OS and Promoting the Fedora Project. 13:27:32 <dramsey> +1 VileGent 13:27:58 <bckurera> interesting idea :) 13:28:07 <bckurera> Usage of the OS can be promoted and contribution to the project can be promoted. 13:28:08 <bertux> VileGent: that's what i've done 13:28:12 <VileGent> carry media with you 13:28:34 <bckurera> Both ways ensure that the project is growing. Therefore as FAms not only the OS but also the contribution towards the project should be promoted. 13:28:49 <bckurera> Encourage public to use the Operating System and meanwhile promote the project with in communities to get contribution. 13:29:02 <bckurera> Universities are good point to spread fedora 13:29:13 <dbouida> with the installparty , for example 13:29:17 <bckurera> you can find users plus contributors both 13:29:34 <bckurera> exactly dbouida 13:29:41 <bertux> users can become contributors 13:29:53 <dramsey> +1 bertux 13:30:13 <bckurera> bertux true; but most of the time we should aware them 13:30:23 <bckurera> users to participate as contributors 13:30:29 <bckurera> es an example users as testers 13:30:46 <bertux> because users are often waiting for fixes instead of thinking about them 13:31:03 <bckurera> Again it is upto YOU to decide the way of promoting. 13:31:18 <bckurera> now we have covered two tasks 13:31:26 <bckurera> Representing and Promoting 13:31:42 <bckurera> any other ideas, questions, comments 13:32:19 <bertux> doing classrooms for potential contributors may help earn more contributors 13:32:21 <bckurera> #topic Slide 12: Expanding 13:32:51 <bckurera> will move if anything to be added please disturb me 13:33:00 <bckurera> Another task for FAms, The usage and contribution can be expanded. Further the project can be 13:33:18 <bckurera> expanded by adding more features. FAm can take the lead. For an example forming a new team to 13:33:30 <bckurera> facilitate to the main project. Again deciding the better way to exercise is up to YOU. 13:33:46 <bckurera> Every action FAm take should ensure that the action cause to Represent, Promote and Expand the Fedora Project. 13:34:04 <bckurera> For an example as VileGent noted 13:34:14 <bckurera> carrying media with you serve all three 13:34:35 <bckurera> it REPRESENT fedora 13:34:42 <bckurera> it PROMOTE fedora 13:34:47 <bckurera> it EXPAND fedora 13:35:08 <bckurera> so any ideas comment and questions 13:35:22 <bckurera> please share your experience and ideas too 13:36:00 <bckurera> ok then lets move 13:36:08 <bckurera> if anything please do disturb 13:36:21 <bckurera> #topic Slide 13: Interrelated 13:36:27 <bckurera> Represent, Promote and Expand tasks are interrelated, that means cannot be separated. 13:36:42 <bckurera> One activity depends on another at the same time one activity include in another. 13:36:51 <bckurera> For an example Promoting and Representation can be done via one action and to expand you need to 13:36:58 <bckurera> first promote. If you need some contributors to expand the project by new team or feature you need to 13:37:12 <bckurera> first promote and earn contributors. Then only you can go for expanding. 13:37:29 <bckurera> Therefore every action counts, YOU are the person to decide what and when, how to do. That it is why you are called an FAm. 13:37:57 <bckurera> #Topic Slide 14: Regional Meetings 13:38:05 <bckurera> As a FAm regional meetings are specially important. 13:38:22 <bckurera> Meeting is the platform for FAm to discuss future and current plans, problems FAms face. 13:38:32 <bckurera> Further FAm can share their experience on even organizing, promoting the project, sharing experience is more important as many can learn important things. 13:38:43 <bckurera> FAm can shout for help too. FAmSCo keeps eye on meetings, therefore if you have any problem or further help you can bring it to the regional meeting and they will help you to sort them out or provide further help you seek. 13:39:00 <bckurera> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings 13:39:19 <bckurera> Therefore participation for regional meetings is a FAm responsibility. 13:39:36 <bckurera> Any ideas and Comments 13:40:40 <dramsey> +1 bckurera 13:41:07 <bckurera> Now we have come trough the definition of the FAms and understood their role, lets try to discuss more; 13:41:27 <bckurera> we are trying to move to the next part of the session and we are upto the time 13:41:46 <bckurera> please use the next pdf nowonwards 13:41:57 <bckurera> there it is possible to find FAms tools 13:42:05 <bckurera> what available to FAms 13:42:16 <bertux> bckurera: you manage well this classroom 13:42:17 <bckurera> #link https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B-ZcWsgiHEbuZDFkNDNlMmYtYWRiOS00M2ZiLWE2OTUtYmNkZWQzNTdiZWE4&hl=en_US 13:42:34 <bckurera> nice comment bertux 13:42:54 <bckurera> please download the pdf if you dont have it 13:43:05 <bckurera> will start then 13:43:14 <bckurera> FAms are growing fast and they should be. They are the group work with the public, communities basically people. 13:43:32 <bckurera> FAms knowledge should be upto date and nearly perfect because people see the Fedora Project through 13:43:48 <bckurera> FAms. The way you behave and act represent the Fedora Project to the outsiders. Therefore as a FAm 13:43:57 <bckurera> your role is vital and responsible. 13:44:12 <bckurera> Keep in mind and think of that 13:44:34 <bckurera> #topic FAms' Tools 13:44:45 <bckurera> As noted earlier, FAms should interact with people, spread the word Fedora and represent the Fedora Project. 13:44:55 <bckurera> Will have a quick look on How to achieve this? 13:45:08 <bckurera> Your task is to represent the Project, to achieve this you can keep talking to people around you. Events 13:45:13 <bertux> but you never can't know everything about Fedora :p 13:45:56 <bckurera> and gathering of people who are interested in IT stuff would be a nice point to start. 13:46:26 <bckurera> You can discuss with IT event organizers and reserve a time slot for your talk. If possible a Fedora booth in an exhibition would be nice too. 13:46:50 <bckurera> BUT is that the only way to approach; In macro scale it is. BUT you can practice the micro scale as well. 13:47:05 <bckurera> You can target your friends and school/ uni mates. Approach to them explain the importance and the 13:47:09 <VileGent> (be sure you add your event to the fedora events page NO MATTER THE SIZE) 13:47:23 <bckurera> advantage of a free OS, tell them why should they use fedora and try to give them some free media to try out. 13:47:40 <bckurera> VileGent nice point 13:47:54 <bckurera> adding event will help tracking the event 13:48:05 <bckurera> in event I have to add this 13:48:16 <bckurera> most of the time ppl think number is the important but 13:48:30 <bckurera> i believe not the number but the output is the most important thing 13:48:44 <bckurera> again to the flow 13:48:45 <bckurera> Don’t forget to give your contact number ot details to contact you in case of a need. 13:48:58 <bckurera> In this way you can turn many people into fedora 13:49:07 <bckurera> users + contributors 13:49:09 <bckurera> both 13:49:33 <bckurera> here I would like to share my experience with you all 13:49:39 <bckurera> In my university many use Windows OS, talk to whole as one made no progress as they have their own 13:49:53 <bckurera> specific problems. Therefore what I did was, approach mates individually or teams of 3 or 4 and discuss 13:50:10 <bckurera> with them as the time allows. Give them free CD to try out and when they install it I take it to give it to 13:50:16 <yn1v> Get people's contact at events, they may not write you ... but if you have their data you can write them, or call them 13:50:47 <bckurera> [yup getting their contact is a good method] 13:50:54 <bckurera> thanks yn1v 13:51:00 <bckurera> another. They really like it and promise me to try it out and let me know the problems. I did approach to 13:51:00 <yn1v> :) 13:51:24 <bckurera> around 30 mates in my batch who in IT field and successfully spread it. 13:51:25 <bertux> I always forget to print the contact card template for Ambassadors 13:51:36 <bckurera> Most of them install it in their PCs try it and give me feedback. Of course they use it as dual boot with 13:51:48 <bckurera> windows now. Many people have the problem of playing games and some other stuff. Therefore I 13:52:03 <bckurera> encourage them to use fedora for learning and use other for games, Finally it ends of with Dual boot. 13:52:12 <bckurera> Personally I believe that the micro level promotions are more effective than approaching them via an 13:52:16 <bckurera> event or conference. 13:52:32 <bckurera> Finally the way of approaching to the public and spreading the project is totally upto you. You know the nature of the people and the best way to go. Use it and try your maximum to give them a chance to use the OS. 13:52:52 <bckurera> I know every one here have more experiences, floor is yours to share 13:52:56 <dbouida> Most importantly, be nice and friendly 13:53:15 <VileGent> (HINT Fedora Business Cards) 13:53:31 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Business_cards 13:53:32 <dramsey> +1 13:53:54 <bckurera> as a people person YOU should friendly and nice always, no other option 13:54:10 <yn1v> Fedora user base include people who voluntary switch OS to fedora. Don't push people into Fedora. 13:54:13 <bckurera> If remember I first noted FAms are people persons 13:54:26 <kalpurush> +1, yn1v 13:54:45 <bckurera> sure good idea; do not discriminate any distro 13:54:49 <dbouida> +1 yn1v 13:54:58 <dramsey> +1 13:55:17 <bckurera> We will discuss more about this when we come to fedora branding 13:55:20 <bckurera> on the next session 13:55:27 <bckurera> ok then shall we start the final part 13:55:29 <VileGent> also at events you will run into that one person who is a fan-boy for another distro and will be trying to get you upset 13:56:04 <VileGent> dont argue with them, it is only bringing you down to their level 13:56:25 <bckurera> seems VileGent have some experiences 13:56:26 <bertux> +1 VileGent 13:56:38 <bckurera> nice feel free to share them FAms 13:57:01 <bckurera> no use of pretending fedora is the best 13:57:01 <VileGent> and "I dont know but i will find out and get back to you" is a valid answer 13:57:11 <VileGent> bckurera: yes and no 13:57:11 <bckurera> let the users to decide it 13:57:41 <bckurera> VileGent you mean be tricky and recover 13:57:47 <bckurera> is that the theory :) 13:57:57 <yn1v> It is a valid answer if you get the contact details of that person to complete your promise 13:58:08 <VileGent> yn1v: exactly 13:58:17 <dramsey> +1 13:58:52 <bckurera> ok then great ideas; shall we move? 13:58:53 <VileGent> bckurera: i usually work 2-4 shows a year so i have ran into lots of fanboys 13:59:19 <bckurera> sounds like an info :) 13:59:30 <bckurera> ok then the last topic is for the tools 13:59:42 <bckurera> as I have mentioned there are ready made tools and processes 13:59:54 <bckurera> you can get more details by referring the pdf as well 14:00:06 <bckurera> for the completeness I ll give SOME links 14:00:12 <bckurera> not the all; as it is impossible 14:00:26 <bckurera> do refer to those links and then explore the rest 14:00:41 <bckurera> when ever you need anything do search the wiki 14:00:48 <bckurera> OR ask in the ML 14:00:53 <bckurera> lot of hep is out their 14:01:01 <bckurera> s/hep/help 14:01:25 <bckurera> #topic useful links for FAms 14:01:40 <bckurera> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing 14:01:44 <yn1v> search the wiki first if not ask a fellow ambassador. Wiki can be frustrating some times. 14:01:56 <bckurera> this is indeed a great place to collect tios and facts 14:02:05 <bckurera> further slides, images many things 14:02:21 <bckurera> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_press_material 14:02:32 <bckurera> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_press_archive 14:02:41 <bckurera> nice lace to prepare your talks 14:02:56 <bckurera> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_Fedora_flyer 14:03:00 <bckurera> this is for promotions 14:03:09 <bckurera> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/PromoBanners 14:03:13 <bckurera> same 14:03:27 <bckurera> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral 14:03:41 <bckurera> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_social_networks 14:03:50 <bckurera> I found this is really helpful 14:04:04 <bckurera> #link http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/files/vym-fpo.pdf 14:04:11 <bckurera> good to get a general idea 14:04:22 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Conduct 14:04:49 <bckurera> some thing should FAms follow 14:05:00 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/TalkingPoints 14:05:06 <bckurera> hints and tips and facts 14:05:12 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Business_cards 14:05:23 <bckurera> noted above; use to spread your contacts 14:05:31 <bckurera> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations 14:05:35 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations 14:05:48 <bckurera> no need to make your own 14:06:03 <bckurera> use one available or customize as you want 14:06:22 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Campus_Ambassadors 14:06:34 <bckurera> if you are at campus this would be helpfull 14:06:44 <bckurera> Please have a look on these links you can learn more and more. I just noted links on the wiki already so nothing is new only thing you should look around. Everything is ready and packed. 14:06:56 <dramsey> +1 bckurera 14:07:21 <bckurera> thanks for links dramsey 14:07:33 <dramsey> :) bckurera, thank you for chairing. :) 14:07:44 <dramsey> You are doing great! 14:07:57 <bckurera> Further it is important to note the processes for FAms 14:08:04 <bckurera> as I have noted in the pdf 14:08:16 <bckurera> TRAC is another important thing 14:08:21 <yn1v> Yes we need to help new ambassadors not to re-invent the wheel ... there is plenty of material already done. You can save time with a already made presentation and just a fine-tunning 14:08:27 <bckurera> you can use it to track something or anything :) 14:08:36 <dramsey> +1 yn1v 14:08:51 <bckurera> yes as yn1v noted it saves your time 14:09:11 <bckurera> so no need to make another presentations use one used before 14:09:18 <bckurera> if you think it is not ok 14:09:22 <bckurera> then prepare your own 14:09:25 <bckurera> and 14:09:32 <bckurera> DO NOT forget to upload them as well 14:09:39 <bckurera> if you cannot upload to the wiki 14:09:43 <VileGent> and set the license 14:10:09 <bckurera> you can share it anywhere and send the link to infra or wiki teams with copyright statement as well :) 14:10:28 <bckurera> any ideas 14:10:30 <bckurera> comments 14:10:38 <bckurera> we had a nice session in 1 hour 14:10:47 <bertux> yes i agree :) 14:10:51 <bckurera> I have covered up things need for this session, the next session is Fedora Brand; I ll update the wiki on the go with time and date; 14:10:52 <dramsey> :) 14:11:11 <bckurera> there is a tentative date and time 14:11:14 <bckurera> shown 14:11:26 <bckurera> I hope your attendance, please free to forward your ideas and suggestions so that I can improve the classroom for better results. 14:11:40 <bckurera> as the final part is there anythign remaining to share or expressed 14:12:17 <bckurera> new FAms can even read this log and understand lot about the FAms 14:12:18 <bckurera> i guess 14:12:40 <dramsey> :) Once again, bckurera, thank you for chairing. :) 14:12:41 <bckurera> The most important thing, if you dont know ask it on the ML (mailing list) 14:12:45 <VileGent> bckurera: please put your pdfs on the wiki as well please 14:12:51 <bertux> it's easier to convert frustrated users into users of Fedora if they only use Internet services and office 14:13:21 <bckurera> not easy to forget 14:13:23 <bckurera> ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org 14:13:28 <bckurera> its the ML 14:14:11 <bckurera> anything remaining FAms 14:14:15 <yn1v> new users are good, contributors are better. Any contribution counts, there are no small contributions 14:14:29 <dramsey> +1 14:14:38 <dbouida> +1 14:14:39 <bckurera> that means no capacity 14:14:46 <bckurera> every contribution is same 14:14:52 <bckurera> am I correct? 14:15:22 <yn1v> yes, we invite people to contribute with anything they can/want 14:15:24 <bckurera> every small contribution keeps the project running 14:15:36 <bckurera> therefore very small act is valuable 14:15:47 <dramsey> +1 14:15:53 <bckurera> for instant update Facebook status about fedora, its also a contribution 14:15:57 <yn1v> we also need to help them find the way into doing things, small or big 14:15:59 <bckurera> hope i am not wrong :) 14:16:18 <yn1v> yes, it is promoting 14:16:22 <dramsey> +1 14:16:36 <bckurera> nice idea flow :) 14:17:11 <bckurera> anything left? 14:17:50 <dramsey> Good meeting bckurera. Looking forward to the Fedora Branding class. ;) 14:17:52 <bckurera> ok finally I should thanks all the FAms supported me to make this classroom happen 14:18:07 <bckurera> dramsey and APAC FAms thanks for everything 14:18:14 <yn1v> bckurera, thanks for running this session. 14:18:37 <bertux> i thank you too for running this session 14:18:38 <dbouida> bckurera , thanks 14:18:38 <bckurera> nice to have all the FAms including FAmSCo representation as well 14:18:41 <bckurera> :) 14:18:44 <dramsey> +1 14:18:55 <bckurera> Thanks for being in the classroom and actively participate the session. All FAms thanks again for your time. 14:19:03 <bckurera> See you at the next Classroom 14:19:11 <kalpurush> thanks bckurera 14:19:16 <bckurera> Dont forget it is on Fedora Brand 14:19:29 <bckurera> something new :) 14:19:46 <bckurera> thanks for all comments and wishes I ll try my best to make the next one a good one 14:19:51 <bckurera> then can we wind up 14:19:58 <bckurera> See you at the next Classroom 14:20:16 <bckurera> tentatively on 10th Saturday 2011, September 14:20:20 <bckurera> 1300 UTC 14:20:36 <bckurera> thanks again for the active participation 14:20:43 <bckurera> see you and good night 14:20:53 <bertux> good night to all 14:20:58 <dramsey> good night 14:20:58 <bckurera> 3 14:20:59 <kalpurush> good night 14:21:00 <bckurera> 2 14:21:04 <bckurera> 1 14:21:06 <bckurera> 0.5 14:21:07 <bckurera> #endmeeting