#fedora-commops log

20:21:11 <jwf> #startmeeting CommOps - Hack session / office hours - 2017-11-27
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20:21:12 <commopswatch> meetbot.meeting.start -- jflory7 started meeting "CommOps - Hack session / office hours - 2017-11-27" in #fedora-commops
20:21:18 <jwf> #meetingname commops
20:21:18 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'commops'
20:21:31 <jwf> #nick commops
20:21:37 <jwf> #topic Roll call
20:21:37 <commopswatch> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of jflory7's "CommOps - Hack session / office hours - 2017-11-27" meeting changed to "Roll call" in #fedora-commops
20:21:42 <jwf> .hello jflory7
20:21:44 <zodbot> jwf: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <jflory7@gmail.com>
20:22:11 * jwf is hanging out in IRC for now, but will jump on video if others are around – in a public place so it's a little noisy!
20:23:41 <bt0> I'm here, editing fedora cheat cubes... I don't think that count like a commops activity
20:29:22 <commopswatch> pagure.issue.comment.added -- jflory7 commented on ticket fedora-commops#114: "Use metrics dashboard to visualize fedmsg data" https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/114#comment-481552
20:29:43 <jwf> bt0: Hack sessions can be helpful time to dedicate an hour or two to Fedora things. :)
20:30:04 <jwf> I know I've done Marketing things even years ago during the hack sessions when we ran them two years ago.
20:30:13 <jwf> Wow, two years ago… feels weird that it's been so long
20:31:19 <bt0> yeah a lot of time
20:33:10 <commopswatch> pagure.issue.comment.added -- jflory7 commented on ticket fedora-commops#125: "[TRACKER TICKET] Organize a CommOps FAD" https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/125#comment-481553
20:33:49 <x3mboy> Hi guys
20:34:12 <x3mboy> Nobody is on jitsi, So I supose that we will work only here
20:34:40 <jwf> x3mboy: Hey Eduard, wasn't sure who else was around. If you're on, I'll jump in :)
20:34:52 <bt0> well, u know, jitsi make me looks fat
20:35:12 <x3mboy> Well I'm here,
20:35:35 <jwf> Just joined, let me grab the link!
20:36:18 <jwf> #topic Hack time!
20:36:19 <commopswatch> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of jflory7's "CommOps - Hack session / office hours - 2017-11-27" meeting changed to "Hack time!" in #fedora-commops
20:36:21 <jwf> #link https://meet.jit.si/fedora-commops
20:36:21 <commopswatch> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- jflory7 linked to more information in the "CommOps - Hack session / office hours - 2017-11-27" meeting in #fedora-commops: "https://meet.jit.si/fedora-commops"
20:37:47 <jwf> #info jwf updated tickets from meeting, now working on Grimoire vs. Grafana research
20:37:47 <commopswatch> meetbot.meeting.item.info -- jflory7 raised a point of information in the "CommOps - Hack session / office hours - 2017-11-27" meeting in #fedora-commops: "jwf updated tickets from meeting, now working on Grimoire vs. Grafana research"
20:38:50 <jwf> Anyone is welcome to #info something they're working on, if you want to get it into the logs.
20:38:53 <jwf> #chair bt0 x3mboy
20:38:53 <zodbot> Current chairs: bt0 jwf x3mboy
20:40:41 * jwf assumes @skamath is asleep by now, bummer
20:40:56 <jwf> I had a question for him about Grimoire and the Perceval plugin.
20:41:30 <jwf> @skamath: Whenever you see this, what was the blocking issue in Grimoire that required us to write a Perceval plugin for fedmsg? As compared to using a PostgreSQL data store?
20:42:00 <commopstg> <skamath> Hey, I'm around-ish.
20:42:22 <commopstg> <skamath> I'm on a very shaky connection. In a place with limited connectivity.
20:42:50 <commopstg> <skamath> jwf, the blocker was the time factor.
20:43:17 <jwf> @skamath: No worries, if you want to hang out in Telegram / IRC, that's fine. I know it's super late!
20:43:21 <jwf> @skamath: Time to implement?
20:43:30 <commopstg> <skamath> We have to do a lot of research, code reading and hacking.
20:43:49 <bt0> awesome... skamath++
20:44:01 <commopstg> <skamath> Yep, we need to write loads of code and that can take a lot of time.
20:44:15 <commopstg> <skamath> /me wonders if it is any easier in Grafana.
20:45:30 <jwf> @skamath: I was trying to get a firm idea of what we need exactly in Grimoire for it to work with fedmsg. If I understand right, fedmsg is using PostgreSQL data store and Grimoire supports PostgreSQL databases
20:45:43 <jwf> I'm trying to get an idea of what's blocking us specifically
20:46:02 <skamath> jwf, That's right. We need to write a wrapper around fedmsg.
20:46:16 <skamath> It's something like this. Get fedmsg data using datagrepper or statscache
20:46:34 <skamath> Feed it into perceval
20:46:54 <skamath> Parse it, do all the processing and ready it for elasticsearch.
20:47:30 <skamath> jwf, Yes - except we cannot have direct access to the database with all the data.
20:47:47 <jwf> Ahhhh. That makes a lot of sense, I hadn't thought of that
20:48:03 <jwf> Yeah, so we do need to abstract it out with datagrepper / statscache
20:48:06 <jwf> Hmmm.
20:48:11 <skamath> sayan thought it was a god idea to make use of statscache.
20:48:13 <jwf> I wonder how we would go about doing this in Grafana…
20:48:15 <skamath> datagrepper is really slow.
20:48:19 <jwf> Yeah. :\
20:48:38 <skamath> Well, statscache uses datagrepper to pull data but it happens only once.
20:48:43 <skamath> And that's the good thing
20:48:53 * jwf nods
20:49:14 <skamath> jwf, have you worked with Grafana before?
20:49:19 <jwf> I have.
20:49:28 <jwf> But not with a custom data backend like this
20:49:34 <jwf> I used it with InfluxDB data stores
20:49:42 <skamath> Ah okay.
20:49:47 <jwf> #link http://docs.grafana.org/plugins/developing/development/
20:49:48 <commopswatch> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- jflory7 linked to more information in the "CommOps - Hack session / office hours - 2017-11-27" meeting in #fedora-commops: "http://docs.grafana.org/plugins/developing/development/"
20:50:01 <skamath> It looks like we are standing in front of two diverging roads.
20:50:16 <skamath> Do you want to take the one less traveled? :P
20:50:54 <jwf> skamath: Yeah. But the more I go into this, the more that Grimoire is attractive because of its emphasis on community tooling, like Mailman, Telegram, supybot, Bugzilla… all things we have in Fedora.
20:50:55 <jwf> #link https://grimoirelab.github.io/
20:50:56 <commopswatch> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- jflory7 linked to more information in the "CommOps - Hack session / office hours - 2017-11-27" meeting in #fedora-commops: "https://grimoirelab.github.io/"
20:51:03 <skamath> \o/
20:51:09 <skamath> Sounds good.
20:51:11 <x3mboy> Should we talk/discuss te FAD ticket?
20:51:21 <x3mboy> Ir we will do it only in meetings?
20:51:22 <jwf> Grafana, to me, does the technical things really nicely, but I'm missing the connection to some of those tools like Grimoire has
20:51:23 <skamath> jwf, so let's fix Grimoire?
20:51:33 <jwf> x3mboy: Nope, we definitely can now!
20:51:50 <skamath> Is something happening on Jitsi?
20:52:04 <jwf> skamath: Me, x3mboy, and bt0 are hanging out there, but we could chat there if you can jump on.
20:52:31 <jwf> skamath: I'm thinking more and more that Grimoire has better support for our needs, but I'm still going through some of my tabs
20:52:48 <skamath> jwf, Yes. And we can extend it to a lot of things.
20:52:56 <jwf> That's what is exciting. :D
20:53:01 <skamath> There are lots of plugins which are super useful and fun.
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20:53:18 <nb> .fas bexelbie
20:53:19 <zodbot> nb: bex 'Brian (bex) Exelbierd' <bex@pobox.com>
20:53:34 * jwf waves to nb :)
20:53:49 <x3mboy> nb o/
20:53:54 * skamath is looking for the Jitsi link
20:54:02 <jwf> I gotcha
20:54:09 <jwf> skamath: https://meet.jit.si/fedora-commops
20:54:15 <skamath> Thanks!
20:55:36 <jonatoni> Hack time ;)
20:55:38 <commopstg> 'Off topic' uploaded by bt0dotninja: https://i.imgur.com/aEyxRBy.jpg
20:58:12 <x3mboy> Ok, about the FADI will create and work aon a little ticket to write a wiki how-to guide, because the new wiki (I'm not sure if is media wiki with a custom theme or what) because some things changed
20:58:23 <x3mboy> e.g. The tables layout
20:58:49 <x3mboy> jonatoni, o/
20:59:18 <commopstg> <x3mboy> LOL
20:59:28 <commopstg> <x3mboy> Mixed messages
20:59:40 <x3mboy> I will create and work aon a little ticket to write a wiki how-to guide, because the new wiki (I'm not sure if is media wiki with a custom theme or what) because some things changed
20:59:41 * jonatoni waves at x3mboy
20:59:44 <x3mboy> This is one messages
21:00:07 <x3mboy> And the other messages supose to be: "Ok, about the FAD: Where are we at?"
21:00:09 <x3mboy> What we need
21:00:12 <x3mboy> ?
21:01:34 <skamath> jonatoni, o/
21:01:50 <skamath> x3mboy, That's a nice tee :D
21:02:44 <jonatoni> skamath \0
21:07:11 <x3mboy> https://taiga.fedorainfracloud.org/project/x3mboy-fedora-commops-fad
21:07:12 <commopswatch> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- x3mboy linked to more information in the "CommOps - Hack session / office hours - 2017-11-27" meeting in #fedora-commops: "https://taiga.fedorainfracloud.org/project/x3mboy-fedora-commops-fad"
21:07:37 <commopswatch> pagure.issue.comment.added -- jflory7 commented on ticket fedora-commops#114: "Use metrics dashboard to visualize fedmsg data" https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/114#comment-481564
21:07:48 <x3mboy> Let's see if we can use this tool to work with the task in the FAD planning
21:10:05 <jwf> jonatoni: Hey hey! :D
21:10:12 <commopswatch> pagure.issue.comment.added -- x3mboy commented on ticket fedora-commops#125: "[TRACKER TICKET] Organize a CommOps FAD" https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/125#comment-481568
21:10:25 <jwf> bt0++ Nice! Where did you get those shirts?
21:11:02 <bt0> Mexican online shop :P
21:11:19 <bt0> for one Release Party
21:12:24 * skamath is heading to bed
21:12:34 <jwf> x3mboy: https://screenshots.firefox.com/VCatDKXkjzOV89um/taiga.fedorainfracloud.org
21:12:43 <jwf> @skamath: Good night! Thanks for jumping in really quick. :)
21:12:49 <skamath> jwf, If there is anything else, ping here and I'll get to it first thing tomorrow :D
21:12:49 <jwf> skamath++
21:12:54 <jwf> skamath: Yep, will do!
21:12:59 <skamath> jwf++ x3mboy++ bt0++
21:13:12 <x3mboy> skamath++
21:13:12 <zodbot> x3mboy: Karma for skamath changed to 5 (for the f27 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:13:13 <commopswatch> irc.karma -- x3mboy gave skamath(52) a karma cookie in #fedora-commops.  "skamath++" https://badges.fedoraproject.org/user/skamath
21:13:18 <x3mboy> Have a nice rest
21:13:33 <commopstg> <skamath> Thanks :)
21:15:07 <x3mboy> jwf, https://screenshots.firefox.com/Q5lPxKjpThuzaqvu/taiga.fedorainfracloud.org
21:16:19 <jwf> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Diversity_2017
21:16:20 <commopswatch> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- jflory7 linked to more information in the "CommOps - Hack session / office hours - 2017-11-27" meeting in #fedora-commops: "https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Diversity_2017"
21:16:22 <jwf> x3mboy: ^
21:17:51 <jwf> x3mboy: https://pagure.io/fedora-mediawikitheme
21:20:04 <bt0> jejeje, maybe infra only looks "OMG, LTS mediawiki" and don't see the the looks and feel
21:20:40 <jwf> Hahahah, that could be it!
21:20:50 <jwf> The theme looks nice, just definitely got me off-guard. :D
21:22:39 <jonatoni> jwf hey ;)
21:23:54 <x3mboy> It looks good, the problem is that breaks some stuff (like tables) and there are places that were important and there aren't linked anymore
21:23:58 <x3mboy> Like uploading files
21:24:36 <x3mboy> But with some love I can still work there :D
21:25:20 * jwf nods
21:25:58 <jwf> Okay, the last little bit of work I have left is with the CommBlog. I want to do some follow-up on articles and get one out the door too.
21:26:17 <jwf> I have these all started on my desktop at home, so I think I will finish them after I head home and I'm at my desktop.
21:27:32 <x3mboy> jwf, I have a question, CommBlog is a little more informal than Magazine, we don't do the Pitch/Aprrove/Draft/Review/Schedule schema
21:27:42 <jwf> Correct.
21:28:09 <x3mboy> It's ok if I create tickets for my commblogs articles ideas? Or should I keep it in my personal to-do list?
21:28:59 <commopswatch> nagios.host.state.change -- commops.fedorainfracloud.org is in an unknown state: "CRITICAL - Host Unreachable (commops.fedorainfracloud.org)" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/nagios/cgi-bin/status.cgi?navbarsearch=1&host=commops.fedorainfracloud.org
21:29:02 <commopswatch> nagios.host.state.change -- commops.fedorainfracloud.org is in an unknown state: "CRITICAL - Host Unreachable (commops.fedorainfracloud.org)" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/nagios/cgi-bin/status.cgi?navbarsearch=1&host=commops.fedorainfracloud.org
21:29:04 <jwf> Hmm. For now, I think new tickets are okay. Ideally, we should start something like "starter pitches" like we have for the Magazine.
21:29:15 <jwf> Oh no /o\
21:29:25 <jwf> The CommOps machine didn't like F27…
21:29:37 <x3mboy> Oh oh
21:29:44 <x3mboy> Who can look at it?
21:29:49 <x3mboy> Infra-folks?
21:30:38 <jwf> x3mboy: I just asked in #fedora-noc
21:30:47 <jwf> Hopefully it's not a major issue.
21:30:57 <jwf> Okay, x3mboy / bt0: Either of you need anything from me before I jump off?
21:31:12 <bt0> OMG
21:31:13 <bt0> no
21:31:32 <commopswatch> pagure.issue.new -- x3mboy opened a new ticket fedora-commops#127: "Write a "How to" commblog post to explain a little bit the changes in the wiki" https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/127
21:31:37 <jwf> Awesome. Last one out, get the lights please ;) (#endmeeting)
21:31:44 <x3mboy> Not now
21:31:47 <x3mboy> Thanks for the session
21:31:48 <jwf> #chair x3mboy bt0 jwf|matrix
21:31:48 <zodbot> Current chairs: bt0 jwf jwf|matrix x3mboy
21:32:08 * jwf jumps off for now, see ya soon!
21:32:24 <x3mboy> See ya
21:32:42 <x3mboy> Anyone is working on something?
21:32:52 <bt0> cheat cubes
21:32:54 <x3mboy> I need to get out in a few minutes
21:32:54 <bt0> :P
21:34:35 <x3mboy> Ok, I will move to my spot
21:34:45 <x3mboy> Leaving conference room
21:34:52 <bt0> ok
21:37:46 <x3mboy> Oh, I forgot to ask jwf about the commops pagure privileges
21:37:49 <x3mboy> Well, next time
21:39:04 <jwf|matrix> x3mboy: What's up?
21:39:37 <x3mboy> jwf|matrix, I can't take tickets or edit metadata in the Commops's Pagure
21:39:57 <jwf|matrix> Oh! Maybe you're not in the group? I think bt0 can add you there. If not, I can when I'm home.
21:40:08 <bt0> let me check
21:40:10 <jwf|matrix> https://pagure.io/group/fedora-commops/
21:40:10 <commopswatch> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- jwf|matrix linked to more information in the "CommOps - Hack session / office hours - 2017-11-27" meeting in #fedora-commops: "https://pagure.io/group/fedora-commops/"
21:40:22 <jwf|matrix> I think that's the link
21:42:37 <bt0> done :P
21:43:08 <bt0> please check x3mboy
21:43:43 <commopswatch> pagure.issue.assigned.added -- x3mboy assigned ticket fedora-commops#127 to x3mboy https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/127
21:43:54 <x3mboy> Now it works :D
21:43:56 <x3mboy> Thanks :D
21:44:07 <bt0> super :D
21:44:08 <commopswatch> nagios.host.state.change -- commops.fedorainfracloud.org is in an unknown state: "CRITICAL - Host Unreachable (commops.fedorainfracloud.org)" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/nagios/cgi-bin/status.cgi?navbarsearch=1&host=commops.fedorainfracloud.org
21:44:11 <commopswatch> nagios.host.state.change -- commops.fedorainfracloud.org is in an unknown state: "CRITICAL - Host Unreachable (commops.fedorainfracloud.org)" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/nagios/cgi-bin/status.cgi?navbarsearch=1&host=commops.fedorainfracloud.org
21:44:19 <commopswatch> pagure.issue.tag.added -- x3mboy tagged ticket fedora-commops#127: Community Blog and easyfix https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/127
21:44:26 <x3mboy> bt0++
21:44:27 <zodbot> x3mboy: Karma for bt0dotninja changed to 8 (for the f27 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:44:27 <commopswatch> irc.karma -- x3mboy gave bt0dotninja(30) a karma cookie in #fedora-commops.  "bt0++" https://badges.fedoraproject.org/user/bt0dotninja
21:44:37 <x3mboy> Well guys I need to run
21:44:43 <x3mboy> So see ya
21:45:52 <bt0> umm, end meeting?
21:49:26 <bt0> #endmeeting