20:34:22 <jwf> #startmeeting Fedora CommOps hack session - 2017-12-04
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20:34:23 <commopswatch> meetbot.meeting.start -- jflory7 started meeting "Fedora CommOps hack session - 2017-12-04" in #fedora-commops
20:34:51 <jwf> Oops, wrong key shortcut… left the channel
20:35:09 <jwf> #meetingname commops
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20:35:19 <jwf> #topic Roll call
20:35:21 <jwf> .hello jflory7
20:35:22 <zodbot> jwf: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <jflory7@gmail.com>
20:35:28 <jwf> Anyone else here to hack?
20:35:36 <jwf> s/hack/work on Fedora projects?
20:36:07 * Rhea squeeks
20:36:17 * jwf waves
20:36:56 <jwf> I'm finishing up cleaning from a late lunch. I'll be at the keyboard proper in about 5-10 minutes. Be right back.
20:36:58 <jwf> #chair Rhea
20:36:58 <zodbot> Current chairs: Rhea jwf
20:37:19 <commopstg> <Saurabh_9> @jflory Sure thanks I will check the SIG channel
20:37:20 <jonatoni> jwf o/
20:37:55 <x3mboy> .hello2
20:37:56 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
20:38:18 <x3mboy> This time it will be hard for me to be on jitsi, but I can work from here
20:38:21 <x3mboy> :D
20:38:28 <x3mboy> Rhea, o/
20:38:30 <x3mboy> jonatoni, o/
20:39:06 <jonatoni> x3mboy \o
20:43:52 <x3mboy> Rhea, are we looking for Brno as location to the FAD?
20:46:51 <Rhea> yup
20:48:03 <jwf> @Saurabh_9: If you need any help, just let us know. :)
20:48:12 <jwf> jonatoni: Hello hello :)
20:48:21 <jwf> x3mboy: Hiya! o/
20:48:26 <jwf> #chair jonatoni x3mboy
20:48:26 <zodbot> Current chairs: Rhea jonatoni jwf x3mboy
20:48:28 <x3mboy> I probably will need a visa, but It shouldn't be a problem this time
20:48:37 <jwf> #topic Hack time!
20:48:43 <x3mboy> I already have my permanent residence in Chile
20:48:43 <x3mboy> :D
20:48:53 <jwf> x3mboy: Hopefully easier than it is to get over here :P
20:50:10 <x3mboy> I hope so
20:50:21 <x3mboy> It took 10 months to obtain my residence
20:50:23 <x3mboy> :S
20:50:31 <x3mboy> But now I can travel without problem
20:50:35 <jonatoni> 10 months :o why so long :/
20:50:48 <x3mboy> At least until my passport expire at 2019
20:51:00 <x3mboy> jonatoni, because the system is oveloaded
20:51:47 <jwf> As a note, most of my time right now is going towards the logic model
20:52:03 <jwf> I'll be working on that, but if anyone needs any input or feedback on something, just mention my nick :)
20:52:13 <saurabh_9> @jflory Not able to join any group in admin.fedoraproject.org
20:53:01 <jwf> saurabh_9: Oh, you mean FAS group? You shouldn't join any of those yet. You should start by introducing yourself on their mailing list or in IRC. Usually someone else adds you to the group.
20:53:40 <jwf> Since they come with special git permissions in Fedora, so the Python SIG doesn't often use their FAS group to count membership. If I remember right.
20:53:59 <jwf> saurabh_9: Oh, I used an acronym. If you don't know yet, FAS == Fedora Account System.
20:54:11 <jwf> Here on IRC, you can find their channel on #fedora-python.
20:54:12 <x3mboy> saurabh_9, the most safe is to follow the guide: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Python/JoinSIG
20:54:44 <jwf> Their mailing list is here: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/python-devel.lists.fedoraproject.org/
20:55:01 <jwf> x3mboy++ I forgot about that. saurabh_9, look at what x3mboy linked for specific instructions.
20:57:32 <commopstg> <saurabh_9> @x3mboy , @jflory  sure I will check this out
21:03:35 <commopstg> <x3mboy> Sorry guys I need to run
21:04:03 <jonatoni> bye x3mboy
21:04:04 <commopstg> <x3mboy> @jflory jwf, can we move the sessions one hour back?
21:04:12 <commopstg> <x3mboy> jonatoni, bye!
21:04:41 <commopstg> <x3mboy> Remember that I setup a kanban to work in the FAD
21:04:43 <commopstg> <x3mboy> https://taiga.fedorainfracloud.org/project/x3mboy-fedora-commops-fad/kanban
21:05:00 <commopstg> <x3mboy> Sadly jwf wasn't able to load it yet
21:05:08 <commopstg> <x3mboy> I hope he can setup his account soon
21:05:09 <commopstg> <x3mboy> :D
21:05:24 <commopstg> <x3mboy> I will be on telegram, so I will read everything here
21:05:30 <jwf> Still no luck. :( https://screenshots.firefox.com/NJKused4YMuQT0qY/taiga.fedorainfracloud.org
21:05:38 <jwf> @x3mboy: Thanks for hanging out with us!
21:05:57 <jwf> @x3mboy: Is there another hosted instance of Taiga we can use?
21:06:12 <commopstg> <x3mboy> The public taiga.io
21:06:25 <commopstg> <x3mboy> That can be settled with the GitHub account
21:06:36 <saurabh_9> @jflory Is there a way to see old conversation on IRC
21:06:39 <Rhea> what is taiga
21:06:59 <Rhea> and what is the purpose/goal of using it
21:07:00 <jwf> @x3mboy: I'll try setting up an account on the main taiga.io instance and see if I have the same problem.
21:07:50 <jwf> saurabh_9: Not unless someone takes logs for a channel. I would suggest using an IRC bouncer to connect to IRC, so you won't miss any conversation when you're offline. There's a cool way of setting it up too:
21:07:50 <jwf> https://opensource.com/article/17/5/introducing-riot-IRC
21:08:05 <jwf> Rhea: It's like an open source Trello board type of thing
21:08:32 <Rhea> Is it worth the overhead?
21:09:20 <saurabh_9> @jflory that would help. Any more resources for using IRC better.
21:10:07 <jwf> Rhea: I find boards like that helpful, but only if I can use them, heh. I wasn't able to see what x3mboy had set up in ours. I'm going to play more with Taiga after I get the model done
21:10:48 <Rhea> hum
21:21:42 <jwf> nb: I made some edits to the LISA article really quick. Please don't forget to add a category / tags to the article, like "event report" "events" "LISA" etc. This helps make it easier to find related articles later on.
21:22:54 <nb> ok thanks jwf
21:22:55 <nb> jwf++
21:22:55 <zodbot> nb: Karma for jflory7 changed to 13 (for the f27 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:23:31 <jwf> Thanks! :)
21:28:42 <commopsbot> fedora_elections.election.new -- jkurik created election "council-autumn-2017" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/council-autumn-2017
21:28:43 <commopsbot> fedora_elections.election.new -- jkurik created election "council-autumn-2017" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/council-autumn-2017
21:30:29 <commopsbot> fedora_elections.election.edit -- jkurik edited election "council-autumn-2017" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/council-autumn-2017
21:30:44 <commopsbot> fedora_elections.candidate.new -- jkurik added candidate "Dennis Gilmore (dgilmore / ausil)" to election "council-autumn-2017" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/council-autumn-2017
21:31:57 <commopsbot> fedora_elections.candidate.new -- jkurik added candidate "Russ Herrold (herrold / orc_fedo)" to election "council-autumn-2017" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/council-autumn-2017
21:32:17 <commopsbot> fedora_elections.candidate.new -- jkurik added candidate "Langdon White (langdon)" to election "council-autumn-2017" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/council-autumn-2017
21:32:33 <commopsbot> fedora_elections.candidate.new -- jkurik added candidate "Nick Bebout (nb)" to election "council-autumn-2017" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/council-autumn-2017
21:33:46 <commopsbot> fedora_elections.election.edit -- jkurik edited election "council-autumn-2017" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/council-autumn-2017
21:37:18 <commopsbot> fedora_elections.election.new -- jkurik created election "fesco-autumn-2017" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/fesco-autumn-2017
21:37:19 <commopsbot> fedora_elections.election.new -- jkurik created election "fesco-autumn-2017" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/fesco-autumn-2017
21:38:08 <commopsbot> fedora_elections.candidate.new -- jkurik added candidate "Justin Forbes (jforbes)" to election "fesco-autumn-2017" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/fesco-autumn-2017
21:38:38 <commopsbot> fedora_elections.candidate.new -- jkurik added candidate "Kevin Fenzi (nirik)" to election "fesco-autumn-2017" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/fesco-autumn-2017
21:40:21 <commopsbot> fedora_elections.candidate.new -- jkurik added candidate "Dominik Mierzejewski (rathann)" to election "fesco-autumn-2017" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/fesco-autumn-2017
21:40:50 <commopsbot> fedora_elections.candidate.new -- jkurik added candidate "Jared Smith (jsmith)" to election "fesco-autumn-2017" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/fesco-autumn-2017
21:41:13 <commopsbot> fedora_elections.candidate.new -- jkurik added candidate "Adam Miller (maxamillion)" to election "fesco-autumn-2017" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/fesco-autumn-2017
21:41:35 <commopsbot> fedora_elections.candidate.new -- jkurik added candidate "Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbyszek)" to election "fesco-autumn-2017" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/fesco-autumn-2017
21:41:53 <commopsbot> fedora_elections.election.edit -- jkurik edited election "fesco-autumn-2017" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/fesco-autumn-2017
21:43:37 <commopsbot> fedora_elections.election.new -- jkurik created election "mindshare-autumn-2017" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/mindshare-autumn-2017
21:43:38 <commopsbot> fedora_elections.election.new -- jkurik created election "mindshare-autumn-2017" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/mindshare-autumn-2017
21:43:58 <commopsbot> fedora_elections.candidate.new -- jkurik added candidate "Jared Smith (jsmith)" to election "mindshare-autumn-2017" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/mindshare-autumn-2017
21:44:17 <commopsbot> fedora_elections.candidate.new -- jkurik added candidate "Alex Oviedo Solis (alexove/alexove)" to election "mindshare-autumn-2017" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/mindshare-autumn-2017
21:44:54 <commopsbot> fedora_elections.candidate.new -- jkurik added candidate "Abdel Martinez (potty)" to election "mindshare-autumn-2017" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/mindshare-autumn-2017
21:45:25 <commopsbot> fedora_elections.candidate.new -- jkurik added candidate "Nick Bebout (nb)" to election "mindshare-autumn-2017" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/mindshare-autumn-2017
21:45:49 <commopsbot> fedora_elections.election.edit -- jkurik edited election "mindshare-autumn-2017" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/mindshare-autumn-2017
21:57:49 <commopsbot> fedora_elections.election.edit -- jkurik edited election "fesco-autumn-2017" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/fesco-autumn-2017
22:01:58 <nb> jwf,  why would elections be delayed?
22:02:22 <jwf> nb: Because only two candidates from all elections wrote interviews, and they were made a requirement to participate this election.
22:02:31 <jwf> I think there's some other problems at the root of it
22:02:47 <jwf> But an extension might happen tomorrow to give people a chance to write an interview
22:03:44 <jwf> For example, I know some people were just nominated and then they are technically supposed to be disqualified if they don't have an interview… 24 hours is a tough turnaround
22:03:57 <jwf> I'm hoping we can fix these bumps more permanently in future release cycles
22:04:05 <jwf> I wasn't able to spend any time helping jkurik this cycle
22:27:22 * nb doesn't really think an interview should be mandatory, but i guess i'll do one
22:27:36 <nb> i see an interview as agood thing, and it's smart to do because you'll probably get more votes taht way
22:27:42 <nb> but if people don't do it, then people can just not vote for them
22:27:52 <nb> but if that is the decision that was made, to make it mandatory, fine
22:27:56 * nb just never got around to it last time
22:33:53 <commopsbot> fedora_elections.candidate.new -- jkurik added candidate "Jona Azizaj (jonatoni)" to election "council-autumn-2017" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/council-autumn-2017
22:34:04 <commopsbot> fedora_elections.election.edit -- jkurik edited election "council-autumn-2017" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/council-autumn-2017
00:25:00 <nirik> hey all. Seems to be a meeting in progress here? is there an ETA for when it might be complete? or can we stop it and restart it for a quick outage?
00:25:40 <puiterwijk> jwf: ^
00:32:24 <puiterwijk> #endmeeting