14:32:12 <bt0> #startmeeting Fedora CommOps (2018-05-21)
14:32:12 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon May 21 14:32:12 2018 UTC.
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14:32:12 <zodbot> The chair is bt0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:32:12 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_commops_(2018-05-21)'
14:32:13 <bt0> #meetingname commops
14:32:13 <bt0> #nick commops
14:32:13 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'commops'
14:32:37 <bt0> #topic Agenda
14:33:01 <bt0> #link https://infinote.fedoraproject.org/cgit/infinote/tree/meeting-templates/fedora-commops-meeting-next
14:33:01 <bt0> #info (1) Roll call / Q&A
14:33:01 <bt0> #info (2) Announcements
14:33:01 <bt0> #info (3) Action items from last meeting
14:33:02 <bt0> #info (4) Tickets
14:33:03 <bt0> #info (5) Open floor
14:33:25 <bt0> #topic Roll call / Q&A
14:33:39 <bt0> #info Name; Timezone; Sub-projects/Interest Areas
14:33:39 <bt0> #action commops New members, make sure you introduce yourself on the CommOps mailing list [ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps/Join ]
14:33:40 <bt0> If this is your first time at a CommOps meeting, feel free to introduce yourself to everyone and say hello! If anyone has any questions before we get started with the rest of the agenda, now is also a good time to ask.
14:34:30 <bt0> welcome thelittlewonder[, you can give us a quick introduction about you (if you want, of course)
14:34:48 <bt0> .hello bt0dotninja
14:34:49 <bt0> #info Alberto Rodriguez S; UTC-5;CommOps (Metrics, Community engagement), DotNet (Testing), Infrastructure(Apprentice), Marketing (Member), Ambassadors (Member), Cats (lover)
14:34:50 <zodbot> bt0: bt0dotninja 'Alberto Rodriguez Sanchez' <hotgalan@gmail.com>
14:34:56 <FranciscoD> #info Ankur Sinha (FranciscoD), BST (GMT +1), Fedora join, packages (and other random places)
14:35:22 <bt0> #chair FranciscoD
14:35:22 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD bt0
14:35:22 <thelittlewonder[> Hey everyone! Myself Abhishek Sharma[thelittlewonder], I am a front end dev and product designer. Will be working with Fedora this summer under GSoC.
14:36:14 <bt0> awesome
14:36:27 <bt0> .fasinfo thelittlewonder
14:36:29 <zodbot> bt0: User: thelittlewonder, Name: Abhishek Sharma, email: guywhodesigns@gmail.com, Creation: 2018-02-15, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: UTC, Locale: en, GPG key ID: None, Status: active
14:36:32 <zodbot> bt0: Approved Groups: summer-coding cla_done cla_fpca
14:36:36 <thelittlewonder[> #info Abhishek Sharma (thelittlewonder), IST (GMT +5.30), summer-coding, fedora-design
14:37:02 <bt0> thelittlewonder++
14:37:02 <zodbot> bt0: Karma for thelittlewonder changed to 2 (for the f28 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
14:37:15 <FranciscoD> thelittlewonder[: you need to update a few things in your FAS ;)
14:37:19 <FranciscoD> .localtime thelittlewonder
14:37:20 <zodbot> FranciscoD: The current local time of "thelittlewonder" is: "14:37" (timezone: UTC)
14:37:38 <FranciscoD> I'd assume that's wrong (etc)
14:37:52 <thelittlewonder[> Yeah. Will do it right away
14:37:57 <FranciscoD> Welcome to Fedora, by the way.
14:38:01 * FranciscoD should've led with that XD
14:38:40 <thelittlewonder[> Thank you :-)
14:38:54 <bt0> let's wait a little more for quorum :)
14:39:05 <FranciscoD> bt0++
14:39:09 <zodbot> FranciscoD: Karma for bt0dotninja changed to 7 (for the f28 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
14:40:13 <thelittlewonder[> .fasinfo thelittlewonder
14:40:14 <zodbot> thelittlewonder[: User: thelittlewonder, Name: Abhishek Sharma, email: guywhodesigns@gmail.com, Creation: 2018-02-15, IRC Nick: thelittlewonder, Timezone: Asia/Kolkata, Locale: en, GPG key ID: None, Status: active
14:40:17 <zodbot> thelittlewonder[: Approved Groups: summer-coding cla_done cla_fpca
14:41:24 <FranciscoD> bt0: isn't jwf busy flying around at events and such this week?
14:41:29 * FranciscoD saw something on $social_media
14:42:04 <bt0> yeah
14:42:28 <bt0> bee too
14:43:05 <bt0> i'm the backup chair :P
14:43:31 <FranciscoD> haha
14:43:37 <bt0> ok, next topic
14:43:51 <bt0> #topic Announcements
14:44:16 <bt0> #info === "Heroes of Fedora (HoF) – F28 Beta" ===
14:44:29 <bt0> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/heroes-fedora-hof-f28-beta/
14:44:42 <bt0> many thanks for all the testers
14:45:09 <bt0> #info === "Introducing Contributor Stories" ===
14:45:20 <bt0> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/contributor-stories/
14:46:05 <bt0> if you want to say thanks for any contributor write a contributor story ;)
14:46:27 <bt0> #info === "Protect your Fedora system against this DHCP flaw" ===
14:46:27 <bt0> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/protect-fedora-system-dhcp-flaw/
14:47:02 * FranciscoD has so many contributor stories to write about (about 10 years worth of stories!)
14:47:43 <bt0> awesome FranciscoD++
14:47:59 <FranciscoD> .fasinfo ankursinha
14:48:00 <zodbot> FranciscoD: User: ankursinha, Name: Ankur Sinha, email: sanjay.ankur@gmail.com, Creation: 2008-05-28, IRC Nick: FranciscoD, Timezone: Europe/London, Locale: en_GB, GPG key ID: E629112D, Status: active
14:48:02 <nb> .hello2
14:48:04 <zodbot> FranciscoD: Approved Groups: @fedora-join cla_fedora cla_done fedorabugs @freemedia sysadmin sysadmin-ask packager @gitfedora-tour cla_fpca @gitfpaste +qa
14:48:07 <zodbot> nb: nb 'Nick Bebout' <nb@nb.email>
14:48:39 <bt0> i don't have enough cookies to say thanks every time
14:48:47 <bt0> hi nb
14:48:53 <bt0> #chair nb
14:48:53 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD bt0 nb
14:49:03 <FranciscoD> 2008-05-28 -> officially 10 years in a week? :o
14:49:39 <bt0> OMG
14:49:46 <nb> .fasinfo nb
14:49:50 <zodbot> nb: User: nb, Name: Nick Bebout, email: nb@nb.email, Creation: 2007-04-05, IRC Nick: nb, Timezone: America/Chicago, Locale: en, GPG key ID: 110810E9, Status: active
14:49:53 <zodbot> nb: Approved Groups: @certbot-sig mindshare council dotnet-team commops +community-blog +sysadmin-badges famsco +wikiedit dotnet-sig @ambassadors hosted-content @respins-sig 3d-printing-sig @fedora-hams @sysadmin-veteran gitbadges @campusambassadors @letsencrypt @videos cla_fedora cla_done @sysadmin-keys @sysadmin-paste designteam sysadmin-logs @gitfedora-web sysadmin-devel cvsfedora @docs provenpackager +packager (1 more message)
14:50:00 <nb> .more
14:50:00 <zodbot> nb: irc-support-operators +sysadmin-web +sysadmin-noc proventesters +sysadmin-test +sysadmin-tools +fedorabugs +sysadmin-hosted cvsl10n @web @sysadmin-dns +fi-apprentice cla_fpca +qa @sysadmin-docs +wikiadmin @security-team freemedia @magazine @marketing @sysadmin
14:50:03 <FranciscoD> nb was already here when I began XD
14:50:09 <thelittlewonder[> How do I get on chair as well :P
14:50:16 <FranciscoD> #chair thelittlewonder[
14:50:16 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD bt0 nb thelittlewonder[
14:50:31 * nb was not sure when i started, 2007 i guess
14:50:33 <FranciscoD> (being a chair doesn't really do anything extra)
14:50:52 <bt0> wow
14:51:19 <bt0> i never see the .more command before
14:51:23 <thelittlewonder[> (being a chair doesn't really do anything extra)
14:51:23 <thelittlewonder[> okay :P I thought it must be something. haha My bad.
14:51:28 <wesleyotugo> .hello2
14:51:29 <zodbot> wesleyotugo: wesleyotugo 'Dennis W. Otugo' <wesleyotugo@gmail.com>
14:51:33 <FranciscoD> .moar cookies bt0
14:51:33 <zodbot> here bt0, have some more cookies
14:51:38 * FranciscoD knew that one
14:51:55 <bt0> hi wesleyotugo
14:52:03 <bt0> #chair wesleyotugo
14:52:03 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD bt0 nb thelittlewonder[ wesleyotugo
14:52:13 <bt0> cool
14:52:22 <bt0> #info === "May 2018 Elections: Nomination & Campaign period is open" ===
14:52:33 <bt0> #info This is just a reminder that on 2018-May-22 at 23:59:59 UTC we will
14:52:33 <bt0> close the Nomination window of May-2018 Elections. Please check the nomination pages and apply, if you are interested to work in FESCo, Council or Mindshare teams.
14:52:33 <bt0> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Development/SteeringCommittee/Nominations
14:52:34 <bt0> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Council/Nominations
14:52:34 <bt0> #link  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mindshare/Nominations
14:53:21 <FranciscoD> (Also remember to vote and get a badge for it!)
14:53:38 <bt0> this is important, we will have a lot of interviews in the commblog
14:54:13 <bt0> #info Also remember to vote and get a badge for it!
14:54:15 <bt0> :)
14:54:52 <bt0> nb is actual member of mindshare, right?
14:56:00 <nb> bt0, yes
14:56:05 <bt0> and council and provenpackager, omg
14:56:20 <bt0> nb++
14:56:28 <nb> I am both an elected mindshare member (my term is expiring now) and a ambassadors rep by virtue of me being part of FAmA
14:57:04 <bt0> :)
14:57:11 * nb is running for mindshare and council again
14:57:46 <bt0> awesome
14:58:09 <bt0> ok, next topic
14:58:13 <bt0> #topic Action items from last meeting
14:59:22 <bt0> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/commops/commops.2018-05-14-14.31.html
14:59:48 <bt0> #info How This Works: We look at past #action items from the last meeting for quick follow-up. If a task is completed, we move on to the next one. If it isn't, we get an update and re-action if needed. If no status, we'll try to get a quick update and move forward.
15:00:33 <bt0> #info === [In Progress] "jwf Split up onboarding guidelines ticket (#117) into smaller sub-tickets for different steps of work to produce the final deliverable" ===
15:00:53 <bt0> #action  "jwf Split up onboarding guidelines ticket (#117) into smaller sub-tickets for different steps of work to produce the final deliverable" ===
15:01:32 <bt0> #info === [COMPLETED] "bt0 Create an outline / rough script of questions and topics to cover in a Fedora podcast interview with x3mboy ===
15:01:45 <bt0> #link https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/FedoraCommOpsPocast
15:02:24 <bt0> i need feedback about this script
15:03:22 <bt0> if someone can take a look and comment I would be very grateful
15:04:20 <bt0> #action bt0 will send a email asking for feedback about the podcast commops script
15:04:23 <bt0> :)
15:05:34 <bt0> well, we have 3 tickets, next topic
15:05:49 <bt0> #topic Tickets
15:05:59 <thelittlewonder[> if someone can take a look and comment I would be very grateful
15:05:59 <thelittlewonder[> Maybe you can add something about Contributor Stories?
15:06:36 <thelittlewonder[> if someone can take a look and comment I would be very grateful Maybe you can add something about Contributor Stories?
15:06:36 <thelittlewonder[> Oh Sorry. It's there.
15:06:43 <bt0> cool, Right... let me write down that
15:08:12 <bt0> yes, but always can improve the answers :)
15:08:31 <bt0> #topic Ticket #110: "Fedora Appreciation Week 2017"
15:08:32 <bt0> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/110
15:08:32 <bt0> #link https://screenshots.firefox.com/NDyEhhKzQJ4WpXr4/etherpad.persephone.cloud
15:08:32 <bt0> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=5376&preview=1&_ppp=dbe0f8ee96
15:09:07 <bt0> here we need to add more contributor stories
15:09:36 <bt0> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/contributor-stories/
15:10:33 <bt0> will be great if some of us write story
15:11:07 * FranciscoD will
15:11:17 * FranciscoD adds to his todo list
15:11:31 <bt0> cool
15:11:49 <bt0> it is in the mine too
15:13:50 <bt0> well the ticket #177 is blocked so next one
15:14:10 <bt0> #topic Ticket #155: "Fedora Podcast Episode"
15:14:23 <bt0> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/155
15:14:35 <bt0> ping x3mboy
15:15:35 <bt0> ok, every help with the script is welcome
15:16:28 <bt0> and all are welcome to the record too, i'm practicing say my own name :P
15:16:58 <bt0> anything to add for this topic??
15:17:29 <bt0> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
15:17:42 <FranciscoD> not from me
15:17:55 <FranciscoD> I'll go through the script and point out anything that I can think of :)
15:18:05 <bt0> ok, open floor
15:18:15 <bt0> .thanks FranciscoD
15:18:22 <bt0> .thank FranciscoD
15:18:22 <zodbot> bt0 thinks FranciscoD is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to FranciscoD++ also)
15:18:39 <bt0> #topic Open floor
15:19:13 <bt0> thelittlewonder[
15:19:26 <bt0> tell us about the fedora app
15:20:00 <thelittlewonder[> So, We are working on revamping the Fedora Community App. The goal is to improve the existing application (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fedoraqa.fedora)
15:20:01 <thelittlewonder[> And after some weeks of iteration, we do have a low-fi prototype ready at https://marvelapp.com/2j87a5d
15:20:01 <thelittlewonder[> I wanted to share this with the community and get some feedback. Please go through the app prototype, and let me know if there’s anything you’d like change or do differently. Also do let me know if there’s something which is not clear in the design or you find difficult to use.
15:20:42 <FranciscoD> thelittlewonder[: can we install this prototype on our phones to test it out yet?
15:21:01 <FranciscoD> Or is it only a design mock up at the moment?
15:21:27 <thelittlewonder[> https://marvelapp.com/2j87a5d
15:21:29 <thelittlewonder[> It's a clickable design mockup
15:21:35 <FranciscoD> nice
15:21:39 * FranciscoD is looking at it now
15:21:48 <thelittlewonder[> Iterating on low fidelity design is cheap.
15:22:06 <FranciscoD> thelittlewonder[: so the target audience is fedora community folks, with an FAS account then?
15:22:30 <thelittlewonder[> Yes, the login will be optional though.
15:22:34 * bt0 is clicink
15:22:42 <FranciscoD> thelittlewonder[: how is this:
15:22:45 <bt0> clicking
15:23:11 <thelittlewonder[> The new folks who are looking to join or learn about Fedora are also a part of the audience.
15:23:24 <FranciscoD> if one signs in with their FAS, a "contributor activity" screen gets added that shows the latest fedmsg notifications for one's FAS username?
15:23:38 <FranciscoD> optionally also letting contributors to "subscribe" to other notifications?
15:24:04 <FranciscoD> that'll make it easy for folks to keep track of different things in the community too - whether someone commented on a ticket, or a build finished etc?
15:24:50 <FranciscoD> of course, I don't know how hard it'll be to implement :P
15:25:00 <thelittlewonder[> there is an option at the top right of the screen. We plan to show the notifications there.
15:25:09 <FranciscoD> ah, lovely
15:25:16 <FranciscoD> that'll make the app *really* useful
15:25:20 <thelittlewonder[> There will be a subscribe to calendar event option. What else do you think can a user subscribe to?
15:25:30 <bt0> i only use the actual fedora app for the calendar
15:25:44 <thelittlewonder[> of course, I don't know how hard it'll be to implement :P
15:25:45 <thelittlewonder[> There's another backend guy working on the app(GSoC). He will take care of it :P
15:26:07 <FranciscoD> thelittlewonder[: everything here basically: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/ankursinha.id.fedoraproject.org/
15:26:41 <FranciscoD> one can customise what notifications they should get, and if these can be pushed to the app, that'll be so cool
15:26:43 <thelittlewonder[> i only use the actual fedora app for the calendar
15:26:44 <thelittlewonder[> What do you think about segregating the events into upcoming and past? Useful?
15:27:20 <bt0> yeah, that will be great
15:27:31 <bt0> i'm scrolling a lot
15:27:34 <FranciscoD> ++
15:27:51 <thelittlewonder[> one can customise what notifications they should get, and if these can be pushed to the app, that'll be so cool
15:27:51 <thelittlewonder[> I will have to discuss with the Backend guy to know what's possible. But we will surely try to incorporate these features :)
15:29:27 <thelittlewonder[> Anything in the app that confuses you or something that is not clear?
15:29:46 <FranciscoD> let me look
15:30:52 <thelittlewonder[> bt0:  Do you have some feedback to share?
15:31:16 <FranciscoD> thelittlewonder[: i think it's quite clear and easy to use tbh
15:31:35 <bt0> it's a very clean interface for me
15:31:37 <FranciscoD> thelittlewonder[: does the design include accessibility features?
15:32:17 * FranciscoD is getting greedy now
15:32:31 <FranciscoD> thelittlewonder[: how about a quick link to status.fp.o in the "More place"?
15:32:41 <bt0> can i share the link in some mailing list like marketing, join, ambassadors??
15:32:41 * FranciscoD is looking at what else here is useful https://apps.fedoraproject.org/
15:35:15 <thelittlewonder[> thelittlewonder[: does the design include accessibility features?
15:35:16 <thelittlewonder[> Umm.  I am not really sure what you mean by that? Can you share what features you'd like in the app?
15:35:22 <thelittlewonder[> can i share the link in some mailing list like marketing, join, ambassadors??
15:35:22 <thelittlewonder[> Yeah, absolutely :) I have shared it in commops,design and devel.
15:35:44 <bt0> cool
15:36:55 <thelittlewonder[> thelittlewonder[: how about a quick link to status.fp.o in the "More place"?
15:36:56 <thelittlewonder[> Umm, Sorry. am new to Fedora ecosystem. Can you share What is status.fp.o?
15:37:29 <FranciscoD> https://status.fedoraproject.org/
15:38:35 <thelittlewonder[> https://status.fedoraproject.org/  Fedora Infrastructure - Status Fedora Infrastructure Status Outages Calendar #fedora-admin on irc.freenode.net All systems go (This page is manually updated with known outages) Fedora Wiki
15:38:35 <thelittlewonder[> Thank you :)
15:39:19 <FranciscoD> thelittlewonder[: have a look at apps.fedoraproject.org - maybe you'll get some more ideas on what else can be done
15:40:00 <thelittlewonder[> Sure. Thank you FranciscoD  and bt0
15:40:18 <bt0> :)
15:40:28 <FranciscoD> np, thanks for working on this :)
15:40:44 <bt0> yeah, it's amazing
15:41:20 <thelittlewonder[> We plan to finish and ship it by the end of July. Let's see
15:42:24 <bt0> ok
15:43:42 <bt0> #action bt0 will forward the fedora app email to some mailing list with high traffic
15:45:03 <thelittlewonder[> #action bt0 will forward the fedora app email to some mailing list with high traffic
15:45:04 <thelittlewonder[> Do let me know, so that I can join that list and follow up on the feedback :)
15:45:51 <bt0> yeah
15:46:57 <bt0> i will close the meeting unless you have something to add
15:47:14 <thelittlewonder[> I am done for the day :) Nothing from my side
15:47:49 <bt0> Going once…
15:48:01 <bt0> Going twice…
15:48:12 <bt0> Going thrice…
15:48:33 <bt0> #endmeeting