20:01:36 <mizmo> #startmeeting
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20:01:43 * mizmo was just working on badge stickers for conferences
20:01:43 <tatica> lol!
20:01:45 <mizmo> one sec and ill show u
20:01:49 <tatica> awesome
20:02:01 * tatica was eating dark chocolate :$
20:02:49 <mizmo> http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/badge-stickers/sxsw-badge-stickers_draft1.png
20:03:11 <tatica> awesome!!!
20:03:22 <tatica> would you have a machine there? or just buy those?
20:04:12 <tatica> qould/will
20:04:14 <tatica> :@
20:04:20 <tatica> s/would/will
20:04:35 <mizmo> im trying to find a vendor who will make die-cut sheets
20:04:44 <mizmo> its been hard though a lot of companies don't do sheets
20:05:03 <tatica> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Super-Badge-It-Maker/dp/B000296JY0
20:05:24 * tatica want to buy a badge maker :D
20:07:04 <spot> Emichan: we need designs for your "big sticker of the day" asap
20:07:30 <Emichan> spot okay, how asap?
20:07:34 <Emichan> today?
20:07:38 <spot> yesterday? :)
20:08:03 <spot> we need plenty of time for them to be processed, made, and shipped
20:08:04 <Emichan> hold on, let me fire up my time machine..
20:08:23 <spot> Emichan: i'd let you borrow my TARDIS, but it is... sensitive.
20:08:36 <mizmo> spot, i can pump those out fairly quickly
20:08:50 <vinzv> hi there all
20:08:54 <Emichan> we can use one of my pandas for one
20:08:55 <spot> mizmo: as in "i can get them made" ?
20:08:59 <Emichan> maybe a hot dog for another?
20:09:11 <mizmo> spot, print-ready pdf
20:09:32 * spot is willing to give some creative leeway, but i do think we need to keep to the theme of "Fedora and FOSS" in some way
20:09:53 <mizmo> i was thinking one for each of the four foundations
20:10:11 <Emichan> mizmo, literally? or more creatively?
20:10:49 <mizmo> literally
20:10:53 <tatica> http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Button-Badge-Maker-Cutter-Button-Supplies-/140515544476?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b7610d9c#ht_1048wt_907
20:11:15 <Emichan> well, that will be fast at least, since we don't have to do any new drawing
20:11:35 <spot> well, we could do that, but i at least wanted to give you the chance to make new art if you wanted
20:12:40 <Emichan> i wouldn't mind doing something more creative with the four foundations..
20:12:56 <spot> Emichan: sounds like a winner to me
20:13:48 <Emichan> spot, what kind of deadline are we looking at for the stickers? do we need to get them done today? tomorrow?
20:14:14 <spot> Emichan: how much will you scream if i say today? :)
20:14:27 <Emichan> only on the inside ;)
20:14:47 <spot> i just really want to make sure we're ready in advance, and we only have less than 3 weeks before the show
20:14:59 <spot> (and less time for you since you're going to the larger SXSW)
20:16:14 <Emichan> I can get them done quickly if need be.
20:16:49 <Emichan> I can get maybe get some drawn up tonight
20:17:12 <Emichan> i didn't have any plans tonight, anyway... ;)
20:17:32 * mizmo working on four f's stickers now as a backup
20:17:42 <mizmo> vinzv, welcome to the team!
20:17:55 <schendje> hi there vinzv :)
20:17:57 <mizmo> we are in craziness mode right now hehe
20:18:02 <Emichan> mizmo, good idea, i'll do my best, but...
20:18:16 <Emichan> hi vinzv! welcome aboard!
20:18:33 <tatica> vinzv, *\º/*
20:18:52 <mizmo> Emichan, it's always good to have a plan b (the printers asked for sample artwork anyway to help make a quote)
20:19:24 <Emichan> mizmo, plan b++!
20:20:55 * finalzone somebody should update pitivi, 0.13.5 version keep crashing just for some editing...
20:23:02 <mizmo> tatica, can you give us an update on your ticket progress?
20:23:06 <mizmo> you have been kicking serious booty
20:23:25 <vinzv> mizmo: thanks!
20:23:27 <vinzv> hi schendje :)
20:23:30 <tatica> I'm just trying to clean up the easier old tickets
20:23:32 <vinzv> mizmo: already seen, much more chaotic than ambassadors meetings ;-)
20:23:34 <Emichan> tatica, you are awesome ticket closing machine!
20:23:50 <tatica> afaik, there are 10closed tickets, and I have right now 6 (I think)
20:24:07 <mizmo> spot, Emichan: plan b http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/badge-stickers/sxsw-large-stickers_draft1.png
20:24:21 <tatica> vinzv, this is like a playground
20:24:26 <tatica> :)
20:24:45 <tatica> btw, I have something for mizmo
20:24:48 * tatica uploading
20:25:11 <tatica> no... is bad
20:25:17 * tatica redo everything
20:25:21 <Emichan> mizmo, i like the solid stickers best
20:25:35 <mizmo> the second row?
20:25:43 <mizmo> yeh i think those look the best too
20:25:45 <Emichan> right
20:25:47 <mizmo> cheapest to print as well lol
20:25:54 <Emichan> win win!
20:26:20 <mizmo> spot, Emichan - how many do we want of each?
20:26:40 <schendje> #info we <3 tatica
20:26:50 <tatica> lol
20:26:53 <Emichan> #agreed
20:27:04 <Emichan> how many can we get?
20:27:07 * tatica also needs to keep helping schendje with insight
20:27:15 <mizmo> #agreed
20:27:17 <mizmo> :)
20:27:22 <tatica> schendje, can we test the user/admin icons this week?
20:27:30 <tatica> schendje, I'm not sure if I made those too big :\
20:27:39 <vinzv> tatica: that's okay for me :)
20:27:39 <Emichan> mizmo, spot, are we doing the sticker contest?
20:27:58 <tatica> sticket ninjitsu contest ftw!
20:28:12 <mizmo> Emichan, spot: $650 for 3,000 stickers, so prollyl something like 2600 for 3,000 of each of the four designs (12,000 stickers total)
20:28:36 <mizmo> tatica, are there any tickets you need help with or want someone to look at?
20:28:57 <tatica> well, I need help is with the slogan issue
20:29:10 <tatica> I just got some easy tickets, and all artwork is already done
20:29:16 <tatica> just waiting for feed-back
20:29:49 <mizmo> okay stickerrobot is a rip off, uprinting.com will do 5,000 of one design for $150
20:30:06 <mizmo> do we want to take some time to talk over the slogans for the posters?
20:30:15 <tatica> tarzan-english: I don't take tickets to let people know I -will-work on them; I take them when I have something to show :\
20:30:16 <mizmo> which ticket was the posters for? is it for the APAC events one?
20:30:20 <tatica> </tarzan-english>
20:30:26 <tatica> yup, let me link you
20:30:54 <spot> Emichan: If we have budget, then yes.
20:31:26 <tatica> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/166
20:31:40 <tatica> I already fix the "friends" text
20:31:58 <spot> mizmo: wow, that is nicer.
20:32:06 <spot> at $150 * 4, we should be able to budget for 5000 per day
20:32:07 <tatica> I just need a new text for the controversial freedom
20:32:40 <mizmo> spot, with shipping to westford it says $527.82 for 20,000
20:33:10 <mizmo> tatica, what do you think about "freedom is a feature" ?
20:33:13 <mizmo> we've used the slogan elsewhere
20:33:14 <spot> mizmo: thats four designs of 5000 each, not 20000 of one, right?
20:33:29 <mizmo> spot, that's 20k of one, their quote app won't let me do 4 separate designs
20:33:33 <mizmo> i can call them up real quick and get a real quote
20:33:44 <mizmo> their turnaround is 4 biz days btw
20:33:47 <tatica> with emphasis at "is" ?
20:34:11 <Emichan> mizmo, that's great - we don't have to rush as much :)
20:34:52 * spot likes "freedom opens doors"
20:35:41 <tatica> freedom is a feature than open doors?
20:36:06 <spot> tatica: that was just my suggestion, i think it should be short and simple, whatever it is
20:36:32 <tatica> well, after this weekend incident, I would rather to have something more explicit
20:37:21 <spot> maybe "freedom for everyone"
20:37:32 <mizmo> well crap
20:37:39 <spot> mizmo: oh?
20:37:42 <schendje> tatica: there's meeting on Thursday with the Insight theme, can you make that?
20:37:42 <mizmo> so that price was for rectangular
20:37:44 <mizmo> which is ick
20:37:48 <spot> doh.
20:37:55 <mizmo> you get into circular, and it's $550/5k
20:37:58 <tatica> schendje, utc time?
20:38:13 <tatica> spot, I like that one
20:38:20 <mizmo> if we make them 2"x2" we can save a bit, $335/5,000
20:38:37 <mizmo> 1.5"x1.5" - $260/5000
20:38:52 <schendje> tatica: wiki says "on Thursdays at 2:00pm US-Eastern time."
20:38:54 <spot> mizmo: i think 2" x 2" is the smallest we want to go
20:38:59 <schendje> i have no idea what that means ;)
20:39:11 <tatica> looool, me neither
20:39:20 <tatica> if is until 22utc I can make it
20:39:26 <tatica> until/before
20:39:44 <spot> thats 1900 UTC
20:39:53 <Emichan> mizmo, 2x2 would be okay
20:40:08 <tatica> +1, then I can :D
20:40:16 <rbergeron> schendje: meetings got moved to mondays for insight, IIRC
20:40:21 <rbergeron> starting next week
20:40:29 <rbergeron> stickster: ^^
20:40:30 <tatica> oh oh, same time?
20:40:41 <rbergeron> stickster: the meeting got moved AND this week's meeting is being skipped, correct?
20:40:45 <rbergeron> for FI?
20:40:54 <stickster> schendje: tatica: Oops, I need to change the wiki page, my fault
20:41:00 <stickster> I fixed the meeting channel page, but not the [[Insight]] page
20:41:14 <stickster> rbergeron: That's correct, the next Insight meeting is next Monday at 2000 UTC/3:00pm US EST
20:41:38 <stickster> Of course, it's a wiki and anyone could fix it...
20:41:38 <stickster> ;-)
20:41:42 <rbergeron> stickster: cool. I remember seeing it got moved.
20:41:49 * rbergeron would have fixed it after getting off the phone :)
20:41:58 <rbergeron> and verifying that I'm not insane by reading my mail
20:42:01 <tatica> perfect
20:42:02 * stickster fixes
20:42:20 <stickster> rbergeron: no sweat
20:42:50 <stickster> I sent something to the logistics@ list yesterday too, so hopefully people hanging there will know as well
20:43:15 <tatica> schendje, if you can do me a quick ping I would be thankful :$
20:43:38 <schendje> tatica: but we changed it, and it seems this Thursday we won't have a meeting
20:43:40 <schendje> next one will be next Monday
20:43:51 <tatica> schendje, yeap, that's why
20:43:54 <schendje> 2000 UTC
20:43:57 <tatica> mondays I'm lost
20:44:20 <spot> mizmo: http://www.stickers4u.com/circle_roll_labels.htm ?
20:44:24 <tatica> I wake up at 3am and got a 3 hours trip to my work
20:44:36 <tatica> all mondays I'm a zombie
20:44:37 <schendje> (the one on Monday)
20:46:04 <mizmo> spot, so that's $221 for 5000 - best yet
20:46:27 <schendje> tatica: you mean, at the start of the meeting on Monday?
20:46:27 <schendje> tatica: sure!
20:46:27 <schendje> tatica: wait, no, i'm on vacation on Monday :/
20:46:28 <mizmo> oh that is for 1"
20:46:33 <Emichan> spot, those aren't really any cheaper unless we go with single color
20:46:36 <tatica> looool
20:46:47 <mizmo> $266 for 2" diameter
20:46:53 <mizmo> Emichan, those designs would be single-color
20:46:54 <tatica> schendje, then we will be 2 zombies
20:46:56 <mizmo> the middle row
20:47:26 <mizmo> $310 for 5,000 2.5" it looks like
20:47:31 <Emichan> mizmo, oh, true :P
20:48:26 <vinzv> fyi, i just finished another "dotted" country: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Vinz/Projects#Switzerland
20:48:29 <tatica> ohhhhh
20:48:38 <tatica> has anyone here draw a cherry tree before?
20:49:52 <spot> 266 * 4 = $1064
20:50:01 <spot> thats a big chunk of budget, but...
20:51:04 <schendje> vinzv: which countries are you planning on doing?
20:51:09 <schendje> vinzv: and how did you make them, i'm curious :)
20:51:17 <mizmo> vinzv, did you use tile clones to do it?
20:51:48 * tatica likes dottet countries a lot
20:52:03 <tatica> but spain is going to be a challenge with the canary islands :P
20:52:30 <vinzv> schendje: there is no plan, i just started. switzerland was a wish by someone on my blog.
20:52:30 <vinzv> schendje: mizmo is right, tile clones on inkscape with some hand work around the borders
20:52:50 <schendje> vinzv: cool :)
20:53:11 <vinzv> tatica: i started working on the uk and failed right before scotland :D
20:53:19 <tatica> hahahahaha
20:53:30 <spot> mizmo & Emichan: I've added a Budget section to the SXSW page
20:53:32 <tatica> vinzv, this can be a really interesting project to have all fedora countries "dotted"
20:54:01 <vinzv> schendje: meanwhile i'm quite fast, as i have sort of a "workflow".
20:54:04 <Emichan> mizmo, spot, should we look at doing 3000 stickers instead of 5000?
20:54:16 <schendje> vinzv: yeah :) i like how they're different colors
20:54:24 <spot> Emichan: i'm okay with using a big chunk of budget on the stickers
20:54:40 <schendje> vinzv: ah, you used both the Fedora blues - awesome
20:54:41 <tatica> aplausos clap aplausos clap for vinzv :D
20:54:53 <vinzv> tatica: i'd wish to do that...
20:55:03 <mizmo> but we don't know yet what the sheets will cost - Emichan, spot
20:55:08 <Emichan> spot, we've also got the badge stickers to think of
20:55:26 <spot> Emichan: yes, but if we're doing the giveaway, some people may want one to keep and one for the entry form
20:55:35 <tatica> vinzv, those graphics can be used not only for t-shirts... I would LOVE a huge poster with that design at my office
20:55:35 <vinzv> schendje: right. thanks to mizmo's tutorial there are even print ready cmyk pdfs on the wiki.
20:55:43 <tatica> or a sweater
20:55:45 <tatica> :$
20:56:07 <spot> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SXSW_2011#Budget
20:57:02 <Emichan> spot, we shouldn't waste a sticker on an entry form, can we just check it off, or something?
20:57:11 <vinzv> tatica: so you're asking for venezuela as the next country to be done? ;-)
20:57:31 <tatica> am I that obvious? xD
20:57:42 <mizmo> we could scan their badges if they show they have all four
20:57:44 <mizmo> and not waste the sticker
20:57:45 <vinzv> well...
20:57:45 <mizmo> spot ^^
20:57:55 <tatica> vinzv, my only recomendation
20:58:04 <tatica> try to make the dots size more equal
20:58:04 <spot> mizmo: okay, but now we need a badge scanner system.
20:58:10 <mizmo> spot, any android phone will do
20:58:18 <tatica> if dots are too small, when we take them to printing will be a chaos
20:58:32 <tatica> I like france size
20:58:40 <spot> and a way to convert that list into something where it randomizes the list and spits out a "winner" along with "runners up", one at a time
20:58:42 <mizmo> spot, you could literally just take photos of each, dump them in a folder, randomly pick a picture and only read the QR code of that one picture
20:58:47 <tatica> and would use germany size as the smaller
20:58:56 <spot> mizmo: trust me, we want to keep this simple
20:59:09 <tatica> vinzv, do you think that is possible to increase switzerland and usa dot size?
20:59:28 <spot> if there are too many moving pieces, you'll have to pick me and jared up from the asylum
20:59:33 <mizmo> spot, but its simple no? you have 5000 pictures you took say. on the command line you can spit out a number from 0 - 5000 with one line - look up dsc1020 <= or whatever the number is
20:59:36 <mizmo> and read in that photo's qr
20:59:43 <mizmo> hell
20:59:44 <tatica> switzerland... hard to write (switzerland = suiza_es... easier :D )
20:59:46 <mizmo> dont bother with the qr code
20:59:50 <mizmo> take the picture of their name on the badge
21:00:13 <Emichan> spot, entry forms means printing them, getting people to fill them out, etc, so still not simple
21:00:16 * spot is not liking that approach
21:00:19 <vinzv> tatica: they only differ on the previews i think
21:00:51 <vinzv> on svg format the should be all the same, just with different shapes according to the country size
21:00:57 <tatica> I think that I get what you say, but you don't get what I say
21:01:06 <tatica> you're taking dot size acording to the world map
21:01:18 <spot> my concern is that i don't know that without an entry form that many people will retain four days worth of stickers on their person
21:01:24 <tatica> but when you go to print, the size of countries is the same (letter)
21:01:40 <tatica> so distance between dots, no-matter the country size, must be the same at prints
21:01:53 <spot> we could use an ink stamp for the form, i dont know how cheap they are
21:01:55 <vinzv> *click*
21:02:00 <vinzv> now i gotcha :)
21:02:06 <tatica> xD
21:02:10 <Emichan> spot, i'll carve you a potato ;)
21:02:15 <spot> Emichan: hehe
21:02:29 <tatica> vinzv, tip: you can use a dot pattern on a letter layer and place the map on it
21:02:39 <tatica> then just clean... that way dots will always have the same size
21:03:20 <vinzv> hm... could have come up with that idea on my own... thanks!
21:03:29 <tatica> or...use the inkscape patter colors, click on dots and twist it a little so dots be horizontal
21:03:54 <tatica> patter... not colors
21:03:56 <tatica> my bad
21:04:56 * tatica forgot again the f15 wallpaper deadline
21:05:14 <spot> we could get four stock stamps for the entry form
21:05:15 <tatica> march13?
21:12:54 <spot> Emichan: i say the people hold on to them.
21:13:02 <tatica> id cool photos: http://www.uwe.ac.uk/inPictures/assets/images/welcomeweekend/settling_in3.jpg and http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/03_01/idcardDM0503_468x435.jpg
21:13:04 <spot> that way we're not trying to find someone's card for an hour
21:13:41 <spot> we pre-print a large amount of entry cards, no bigger than a postcard
21:13:51 <spot> heck, they could even be a postcard with art on one side
21:14:52 <jsmith> I like it :-)
21:15:15 <spot> well, except that custom postcards are not cheap.
21:15:21 <spot> we'd blow our budget on the forms.
21:15:54 <spot> first website i found was $335 for 5000
21:15:55 <Emichan> we can get 5000 custom postcards on uprinting.com for <$200
21:16:06 <spot> Emichan: okay, thats more reasonable
21:17:33 <spot> looks like $215.92 for five thousand (front and back printing)
21:17:58 <spot> $175.02 if we just do front printing
21:18:24 <jsmith> spot: I might be able to get better pricing... my wife prints postcards all the time
21:18:42 <jsmith> (She's had over 10,000 printed already this year)
21:18:59 <spot> of course, if we do that, we still have the problem of "pile of postcards, how do we pick a winner"
21:19:20 <tatica> numbers
21:19:28 <mizmo> the penguin picks the postcard out of a top hat
21:19:32 <jsmith> spot: Large game of rock, paper, scissors
21:19:43 <spot> tatica: as in, we give every completed entry a number?
21:19:48 <jsmith> spot: If you've never seen a large-group version of rock, paper, scissors, you've never lived!
21:19:58 <schendje> jsmith: lol
21:20:02 <tatica> yup
21:20:07 <jsmith> Former employer of mine used to do it at trade shows, and give away a Hummer
21:20:17 <Emichan> rock, paper, scissors, lizard, spock!
21:20:18 <jsmith> It steals all the thunder from the other booths :-)
21:20:20 <spot> tatica: yeah, but we have to track those numbers
21:20:29 <tatica> photos
21:20:36 <spot> jsmith: did they actually give away a Hummer or a lease to one?
21:20:40 <schendje> Emichan: i've always loved this on: http://www.umop.com/rps25.htm
21:20:44 <jsmith> spot: The real deal
21:20:49 <tatica> hmmm hummer....
21:21:10 <spot> jsmith: lately, that seems to be the gimmick, you don't give away the car, you just give them ... the lease!
21:21:21 <Emichan> schendje, I think that may cause the world to end
21:21:45 <schendje> Emichan: correct, I tried it with just two friends and the ground started to rumble
21:21:50 <spot> i am not referreeing a large game of rock paper scissors anything.
21:22:13 <schendje> (this is an awesome meeting so far, btw :D )
21:22:21 <Emichan> schendje, that was amazingly careless of you! you could have started the armageddon!
21:22:22 <mizmo> would people want to keep the postcards?
21:22:31 <spot> mizmo: maybe, i dont know
21:22:32 <mizmo> the thing is if we keep the postcards for drawing then people don't go home with bling :(
21:22:47 <spot> you know, if we wanted to go low tech
21:22:52 <spot> we could just get a big roll of tickets
21:22:53 <tatica> why don't you do "badges-poscards"?
21:22:54 <mizmo> i'd rather have 5,000 people go home with stickers on their laptop
21:23:00 <tatica> no.. stupid me
21:23:01 <spot> show us your four stamped card
21:23:03 <mizmo> than one of 5000 get a cool prize
21:23:04 <spot> get a ticket
21:23:04 <tatica> you're going with a single design
21:23:06 <tatica> forget it
21:23:12 <mizmo> spot, ah i like that
21:23:12 <spot> show us your four stickers, get a ticket
21:23:14 <mizmo> tickets +1
21:23:21 <spot> then, we draw a ticket.
21:23:37 <spot> double your chances to win by wearing your stickers on the last day
21:23:54 <mizmo> sticker on laptop
21:23:58 <Emichan> tickets ++ -> easier to draw than a postcard :)
21:24:04 <spot> wearing/showing/whatever
21:24:14 <spot> Emichan: well, we still need the entry forms for the main form of entry
21:24:22 <spot> we just won't collect them
21:24:37 <spot> actually, i figured out how to game the system there
21:24:44 <spot> we'd have to collect them if we did that
21:24:48 <Emichan> spot, draw as in "draw out of a hat" ;)
21:24:59 <spot> Emichan: ah.
21:25:20 <Emichan> spot, just keep showing postcards and getting tickets
21:25:31 <spot> Emichan: yeah, thats the hack
21:25:40 <Emichan> we could mark the postcards once they've gotten a ticket
21:25:50 <spot> Emichan: i like it!
21:26:01 <mizmo> but couldnt they pick up another postcard
21:26:02 <Emichan> maybe we should forget about postcards and just give out tickets, one per sticker
21:26:22 <mizmo> stickerrobot lets you print on the sticker backing
21:26:28 <mizmo> but they are a rip off, but other vendors would too
21:26:34 <mizmo> maybe make the sticker backing the ticket
21:26:36 <spot> mizmo: yes, but they wouldn't be able to get four stamps on the last day
21:26:37 <mizmo> oh that doesnt work though does it
21:27:06 <Emichan> show us four tickets, and you get an entry?
21:28:05 <spot> the logic is this: visit us every day, get a sticker and a stamp. On day four, show us the postcard with four stamps, get a ticket. If you show us all four of our daily big stickers stuck on you or your stuff, you get a bonus ticket.
21:28:41 <spot> the only loophole is if people get multiple postcards and come by our booth repeatedly to get it stamped
21:28:56 <mizmo> youd recognize ppl though right
21:29:03 <mizmo> maybe guard the postcards so people can't just show up and grab a stack
21:29:11 <Emichan> tickets people could slip inside their badges/wallets
21:29:14 <spot> mizmo: maybe, but if we're getting 30K people by the booth a day
21:29:21 <mizmo> well its a 30k person event
21:29:28 <mizmo> i dont know if youd get 30k people by the booth every day
21:29:33 <mizmo> maybe total over 4 days, maybe
21:29:34 <spot> mizmo: fair point
21:29:36 <mizmo> but they wont all stop by
21:29:44 <mizmo> (losers)
21:29:47 <mizmo> (those who dont stop by)
21:29:52 <mizmo> :)
21:30:15 <spot> the prize would have to be pretty sweet for people to jump through these hoops though.
21:30:30 <mizmo> a cake
21:30:30 <mizmo> lol
21:30:40 <mizmo> we cannot give away an ipod
21:30:44 * mizmo ... memories of linuxcon
21:30:51 <mizmo> oh that was an ipad actually
21:30:54 <spot> yeah, i don't think it can be Apple*
21:31:28 <mizmo> a netbook?
21:31:29 <Emichan> we could give away a xoom!
21:31:36 <mizmo> whats a xoom Emichan?
21:31:39 <schendje> a Hummer
21:31:42 <Emichan> it's linux-ish
21:31:53 <Emichan> xoom = motorola android tablet
21:31:55 <mizmo> spot, how about a nice gently used penguin costome lol
21:31:59 <mizmo> Emichan, oh i want that
21:32:03 <mizmo> can i be the winner?
21:32:07 <mizmo> :)
21:32:28 <mizmo> spot, what about an olpc
21:32:40 <mizmo> you cant BUY those man
21:32:46 <mizmo> not for love or money
21:32:54 <spot> mizmo: yeah, but i don't know that it has the indy-hipster cred.
21:32:59 <Emichan> http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/US-EN/Consumer-Product-and-Services/Tablets/ci.MOTOROLA-XOOM-US-EN.overview
21:33:21 <rbergeron> You could get an archos tablet, which is a lot less than the xoom, iirc
21:33:42 <mizmo> theyre kind of not very good though :(
21:33:45 <mizmo> the archos
21:33:52 <spot> again, i think the response might be "pshaw, i have an ipad."
21:34:06 <mizmo> i know
21:34:12 <mizmo> a roll of ipad branded toilet paper
21:34:13 <mizmo> :-p
21:34:14 <Emichan> oh, or an adam
21:34:27 <Emichan> mizmo - that would be awesom! :)
21:34:36 <mizmo> i would totally jump through hoops for that
21:34:40 <mizmo> whats an adam Emichan
21:34:47 <mizmo> im guessing its not hte 1980s coleco i grew up with
21:34:50 <spot> well, instead of one big prize, we could do several smaller ones.
21:34:57 <Emichan> another android tablet
21:35:10 <Emichan> less expensive than the xoom, i beleve
21:35:35 <rbergeron> What about a, uh, little drawing pad that is known to work with the design suite?
21:36:12 <mizmo> spot, you can get a 16gb sandisk cruzer for $30. 5 of those preloaded with f14 ?
21:36:12 <spot> rbergeron: hmm, one of the nicer tablets might be a worthy prize
21:36:20 <mizmo> the wacom bamboo is $100
21:37:16 <Emichan> 4x6 intuos is $230
21:37:16 <mizmo> swiss army usb key knife!
21:37:18 <mizmo> oh, the plane
21:37:20 <mizmo> nevermind
21:37:34 <spot> the smaller cintiq is 999
21:37:43 <spot> thats a worthy prize
21:37:57 * mizmo can watch qa playing with one of those from her desk right now
21:38:12 <mizmo> it is but is it worth the $?
21:38:37 <spot> well, i suppose it depends on how much we have left after the stickers and the postcards and the roll of tickets
21:40:05 <mizmo> http://www.amazon.com/EMTEC-Animal-Flash-EKMMD4GM314-Penguin/dp/B003AM8PP2%3FSubscriptionId%3D14H876SFAKFS0EHBYQ02%26tag%3D3boystoyscom-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB003AM8PP2  <= live sticks!
21:40:10 <mizmo> i have the panda, it's nice :)
21:40:13 <mizmo> only 4gb tho
21:40:28 <spot> $8.99 per 2000 double ticket roll on amazon
21:40:46 <spot> ooh, $6.95 in blue
21:41:15 <Emichan> mizmo so cute! :)
21:41:22 <mizmo> we could do the wristband usb drives fairly cheaply
21:41:28 <mizmo> or laser pointer usb drives hehe
21:41:45 <spot> i just dont think people will do all this for a chance at a small prize
21:41:56 * jsmith agrees w/ spot
21:42:05 <Emichan> spot, i agree, i think a large prize is a much better draw
21:43:10 <mizmo> oh oh what about those cool usb monitors
21:43:14 <mizmo> i dont know if they work in fedora though :(
21:43:56 <mizmo> http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/usb-gadgets/bfa3/
21:45:30 <mizmo> this is another manufacturer it hink http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/usb-gadgets/c609/
21:51:30 <Emichan> mizmo, i think those usb monitors use displaylink, which does have opensource linux drivers; http://libdlo.freedesktop.org/wiki/
21:52:41 * spot thinks this discussion might be simpler once we figure out how much our stickers, postcards cost
21:52:55 <spot> so lets not worry about the prize until we get that stuff ordered and spent
21:53:01 <mizmo> compuer engineer barbie!!! http://shop.mattel.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4032107
21:53:03 <mizmo> the ultimate prize
21:53:19 <spot> jsmith: can you check on the postcards cost?
21:53:30 <jsmith> spot: In the next hour or so, yes
21:53:49 <spot> jsmith: i will not be here then, so just send an email to mo, emily, and me
21:53:59 <jsmith> spot: Will do.
22:00:20 <tatica> ohhhh
22:00:29 <tatica> this is EXACTLY what I want for splash http://www.dcgiftshop.com/Product_Images/Cherry_Blossoms/Cherry_Blossom_Flurries_on_Tidal_Basin.jpg
22:00:31 <tatica> thx jsmith
22:02:41 <jsmith> tatica: Always happy to help
22:03:44 <tatica> and this are the colors (changing pink) http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rW-OJ48AJBU/R_AODIukdNI/AAAAAAAAEbU/wZ8q0WGxv2M/s320/GordonCherryBlossom595.gif
22:03:51 * tatica now has ideas
22:03:59 <tatica> I love the background of that one
22:04:45 <Emichan> um. our design-team meeting got hijacked by a sxsw meeting...
22:04:58 <tatica> yup :\
22:05:04 <mizmo> tatica, in japanese that's called hanami
22:05:07 <mizmo> watching the petals fall
22:05:11 <mizmo> hana = flower mi = watch
22:05:36 <mizmo> if you search for hanami you'llk find a lot of cherry blossom photos
22:05:43 <tatica> :D
22:07:29 <tatica> yeah
22:07:52 <tatica> something like this, but more vector-realism => http://www.stick-it.com.mx/images/Hanami%20Especial.jpg
22:07:57 * tatica bookmarking a LOT
22:09:43 <vinzv> tatica: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Vinz/Projects#Venezuela
22:09:48 <tatica> mizmo, you speak japanese?
22:10:00 <tatica> YEAH!
22:10:11 <tatica> but you need to add the guayana
22:10:25 <tatica> :$
22:10:40 * tatica remember that she needs to work on the slogan proposal :\
22:11:24 <vinzv> guayana? why?!
22:11:40 <tatica> is in reclamation, is not yet a country, so still is part of venezuela
22:12:34 <tatica> http://images2.layoutsparks.com/1/197174/cherry-blossom-purple-flowers.jpg  <== +1
22:12:35 <mizmo> tatica, only a little, i studied japanese in college
22:12:43 <tatica> :O
22:12:49 <tatica> see that last link
22:12:55 <tatica> I really really love that
22:13:06 * tatica would like to see more colors at this wallpaper
22:13:19 <tatica> 70% blue  /  30%mix
22:14:46 <vinzv> tatica: i took this map as template: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag-map_of_Venezuela.svg
22:15:01 <tatica> monika can't help us this week, will join the wallpaper next week
22:15:54 <tatica> http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Venezuela_(orthographic_projection).svg  <== even if has a different color, is still part of venezuela
22:18:09 <vinzv> strange thing: the wikipedia article about guyana tells something different than the one about venezuela.
22:18:09 <tatica> brb
22:18:39 <tatica> lets say that people in venezuela still want guayana, guayana people want to separate
22:18:51 <tatica> is a mess :\
22:18:54 <tatica> brb
22:26:46 <tatica> back
22:26:50 <tatica> is the meeting over?
22:27:08 <mizmo> well
22:27:12 <mizmo> im still working on sxsw stuff
22:27:17 <mizmo> :( we dont have much time for it
22:27:35 <tatica> anything I can help with?
22:28:42 <mizmo> well
22:28:45 <mizmo> ive been looking for prizes
22:28:50 <mizmo> now im just writing up the notes i have
22:29:28 <tatica> I can't help you with that, lol :\
22:29:33 <mizmo> yeh hehe
22:29:34 <mizmo> it's all good
22:42:54 <tatica> well, I'm leaving
22:43:06 <tatica> (remember to close the meeting and not leave the log just going)
22:43:07 <tatica> :P
22:43:10 <tatica> see ya tomorrow :)
23:16:55 <mizmo> #endmeeting